So many stupid posts about denying the trinity - We can affirm it
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The only problem with impossibilities is that sometimes the possibilities are impossible for someone to possibly believe that it is possible for impossibilities to be possible. Well, I just felt like spinning the possibilities a bit.
As far as Trinity and Almighty word play goes, here it goes:
It's like saying that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are ONE and the 3 are made of three persons whom make up the ONE God that are altogether as 1 in authority and entirely in spirit as 3 persons whom work together as 1 God. Or as many would say, the 'Trinity.' The Trinity simply means that the 3 as ONE are acknowledged and recognized as the one and only God whom are of 3 persons.....the Trinity. It doesn't matter that it comes from the RCC or not but instead that declaring His deity is solely due to the indwelling of the Holy Spirit whom prompts one to glorify the Son, Jesus whom is equal in authority and deity as the Father. Without the Son you cannot get to the Father and it is not by might nor power that acknowledges the living truth but of the 'Spirit.' So it doesn't matter that the Almighty should or should not be called Trinity just because the word trinity is not found in the bible. But the word Trinity is still the meaning of what is meant when referring to whom we glorify,..Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We know that the Holy Spirit glorifies Jesus and we can only do this by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. So, if the action that is taking place comes in full circle of the glory given onto the Father, then it could only be because it first must come thru the spirit that glorifies Jesus whom came to reconcile us to the Father. This is the work and result of the Trinity in action. They work together. So just because the word Trinity is not in the bible, the three active persons in spirit are.
Now let's take word, Emmanuel. Is Emmanuel not 'God with us?' What about Yeshua? Is not Yeshua and Joshua refer to the same meaning? Is Jesus not God, the Son? Is not Jesus the Christ? Is not Christ the Messiah? Is not the Messiah called Christ? Is not the anointed one Messiah? Was not Christ called the anointed one? Is not Messiah and Christ one and the same in Yeshua or Jesus and was still anointed by the same God whom we gloriously, adoringly, lovingly, genuinely, and fondly call the Trinity? It doesn't matter how you spin it around or how many ways you can put it on a platter and serve it as long as we know that we genuinely worship and glorify Him whom is in the highest heaven and is called 'God.' After all, only He is the ONE that knows our hearts. Or is it souls? Or is it minds? Or is it spirits?
In the name of the Jehovah, Mike.
As far as Trinity and Almighty word play goes, here it goes:
It's like saying that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are ONE and the 3 are made of three persons whom make up the ONE God that are altogether as 1 in authority and entirely in spirit as 3 persons whom work together as 1 God. Or as many would say, the 'Trinity.' The Trinity simply means that the 3 as ONE are acknowledged and recognized as the one and only God whom are of 3 persons.....the Trinity. It doesn't matter that it comes from the RCC or not but instead that declaring His deity is solely due to the indwelling of the Holy Spirit whom prompts one to glorify the Son, Jesus whom is equal in authority and deity as the Father. Without the Son you cannot get to the Father and it is not by might nor power that acknowledges the living truth but of the 'Spirit.' So it doesn't matter that the Almighty should or should not be called Trinity just because the word trinity is not found in the bible. But the word Trinity is still the meaning of what is meant when referring to whom we glorify,..Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We know that the Holy Spirit glorifies Jesus and we can only do this by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. So, if the action that is taking place comes in full circle of the glory given onto the Father, then it could only be because it first must come thru the spirit that glorifies Jesus whom came to reconcile us to the Father. This is the work and result of the Trinity in action. They work together. So just because the word Trinity is not in the bible, the three active persons in spirit are.
Now let's take word, Emmanuel. Is Emmanuel not 'God with us?' What about Yeshua? Is not Yeshua and Joshua refer to the same meaning? Is Jesus not God, the Son? Is not Jesus the Christ? Is not Christ the Messiah? Is not the Messiah called Christ? Is not the anointed one Messiah? Was not Christ called the anointed one? Is not Messiah and Christ one and the same in Yeshua or Jesus and was still anointed by the same God whom we gloriously, adoringly, lovingly, genuinely, and fondly call the Trinity? It doesn't matter how you spin it around or how many ways you can put it on a platter and serve it as long as we know that we genuinely worship and glorify Him whom is in the highest heaven and is called 'God.' After all, only He is the ONE that knows our hearts. Or is it souls? Or is it minds? Or is it spirits?
In the name of the Jehovah, Mike.
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By the way, that's another thing that many Christians LIE about when it comes to what our Church Prophet, Ellen White, taught about the Deity of Christ. They claim that we believe that Jesus is NOT God, which is an utter falsehood. They will say ANYTHING to try to discredit our Church.
Ellen G. White
Three Persons In The Godhead
"There are Three Living Persons in the heavenly TRIO."
Special Testimonies to SDA's
"There are Three Living Persons of the heavenly TRIO. In the name of these Three Powers--the Father, the
Son, and the Holy Ghost--those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will
cooperate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the new life of Christ."
Desire Of Ages 671
"In describing to His disciples the work of the Holy Spirit, Jesus sought to inspire them with the joy and
hope that inspired His own heart. Sin could be resisted and overcome through the mighty agency of the
Third Person of the Godhead."
Southern Watchman 28/11/1905
"He determined to give His representative (The Divine Spirit) the Third Person of the Godhead"
Review And Herald 19/05/1904
"Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead
(The Spirit), who would come in no modified energy, but in the fullness of Divine power."
Review And Herald 19/11/1908
"Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead
(The Holy Spirit), who would come in no modified energy, but in the fullness of Divine power."
Signs Times 1/12/1989
"He determined to give His representative, the Third Person of The Godhead."
Signs Times 19/06/1901
"Then cooperate with the Three Great Powers of Heaven who are working in your behalf."
Signs Times 12/02/1902
"As you openly renounce sin and Satan, the Three Great Powers of Heaven pledged themselves to help you
to overcome."
Signs Times 11/03/1903
"The Three Great Powers of Heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit."
Signs Times 10/05/1905
"Keep yourselves where the Three Great Powers of Heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit can be
your efficiency."
Ellen White And The Trinity
2 www.WhiteEstate.org
Signs Times 16/08/1905
"The Three Highest Powers in the Universe, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit can be your
efficiency."
"The Three Great Powers of Heaven pledge themselves to furnish the Christian with all the assurance he
requires."
Signs Times 10/05/1910
"They are to keep themselves where the Three Great Powers of Heaven,
the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit can be their efficiency."
Note Book Leaflets
"We will avail ourselves of the help of the Three Great Powers of Heaven."
Special Testimonies To Ministers And Workers
"Evil had been accumulating for centuries, and could only be restrained and resisted by the mighty power
of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Godhead."
"The prince of the power of evil can only be held in check by the power of God in the Third Person of the
Godhead, the Holy Spirit."
8 Testimonies 254
"In the great closing work we shall meet with perplexities that we know not how to deal with; but let us not
forget that the Three Great Powers of Heaven are working."
Australasian Conference Record 7/10/1907
"The Three Powers of the Godhead, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are pledged to be their strength and
their efficiency in their new life in Christ Jesus."
Bible Training School 1/03/1906
"There are Three Living Persons in the Heavenly TRIO. In the name of these Three Powers, -- the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Ghost, those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized."
General Conference Bulletin 4/04/1901
"We are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these Three Great, Infinite
Powers are unitedly pledged to work in our behalf if we will cooperate with them."
General Conference Bulletin 14/04/1901
"As at our baptism we pledged ourselves to Him, and received the ordinance in the name of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, these Three Great Powers of Heaven pledged themselves to work on our
behalf."
Pacific Union Recorder 2/07/1908
"The presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, the Three Highest Powers in the Universe and
those in whose name the believer is baptized, is pledged to be with every believing soul."
Southern Watchman 23/02/1904
"Keep yourselves where the Three Great Powers of Heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, can be
your efficiency."
Southern Watchman 15/12/1908
"In the presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, the Three Highest Powers in the Universe, is
pledged to be with every striving soul."
Review And Herald 5/05/1903
"In the great closing work we shall meet with perils that we know not how to deal with; but let us not forget
that the Three Great Powers of heaven are working."
Ellen White And The Trinity
3 www.WhiteEstate.org
Review And Herald 26/05/1904
"Let us not forget our baptismal vow. In the presence of the Three Highest Powers Of Heaven, the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Spirit, we have pledged ourselves to do the will of Him who, over the rent sepulcher
of Joseph, declared 'I am the resurrection and the life.'"
Review And Herald 15/06/1905
"And the Three Great Powers of Heaven pledged themselves to cooperate with you in your efforts to live
the new life in Christ."
Review And Herald 22/06/1905
"The help of the Three Great Powers (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) is placed at your disposal."
Review And Herald 18/07/1907
"The Three Powers of The Godhead have pledged their might to carry out the purpose that God had in mind
when He gave to the world the unspeakable gift of His Son."
Review And Herald 12/08/1909
"The Three Highest Powers in the Universe are pledged to labor with those who will seek to save the lost."
6 Testimonies 91
He has made this a positive condition with which all must comply who wish to be acknowledged as under
the authority of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Those who are baptized in the Threefold Name of
the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, at the very entrance of their Christian life declare publicly that they
have forsaken the service of Satan and have become members of the royal family, children of the heavenly
King.
6 Testimonies 98
In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit we are buried in the likeness of Christ's death and
raised in the likeness of His resurrection, and we are to live a new life. Our life is to be bound up with the
life of Christ. Henceforth the believer is to bear in mind that he is dedicated to God, to Christ, and to the
Holy Spirit.
6 Testimonies 99
The fact that you have been baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is an assurance
that, if you will claim Their help, these Powers will help you in every emergency.
8 Testimonies 194
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are seeking and longing for channels through which to
communicate to the world the divine principles of truth.
Acts Apostles 28
They were to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Austalasian Union Conference Record 1/04/1901
The Godhead was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave
themselves to the working out of the plan of redemption.
Austalasian Union Conference Record /06/1904
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have pledged themselves to aid you in your unselfish efforts to
turn men from unrighteousness to righteousness, from darkness to the light of truth.
Austalasian Conference Record 7/10/1907
The Three Powers of the Godhead, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, are pledged to be their strength and
their efficiency in their new life in Christ Jesus.
Ellen White And The Trinity
4 www.WhiteEstate.org
Needs Of The Cause In Australia 14/07/1903
The Godhead was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave
themselves to the working out of the plan of redemption.
Pacific Union Recorder 24/11/1904
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have pledged themselves to aid you in your unselfish efforts to
turn men from darkness to light.
Pacific Union Recorder 5/01/1905
The salvation of human beings is a vast enterprise, that calls into action Every Attribute of the Divine
Nature. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have pledged themselves to make God's children more
than conquerors through Him that loved them.
Review And Herald 7/01/1902
Christ came to this world and stood before men with the hoarded love of eternity. The whole ocean of
divine love was flowing forth from its great center. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were working
in behalf of man.
Review And Herald 27/01/1903
The salvation of human beings is a vast enterprise, that calls into action Every Attribute of the Divine
Nature. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have pledged themselves to make God's children more
than conquerors through him that has loved them.
Review And Herald 5/05/1903
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have pledged themselves to aid you in your unselfish efforts to
turn men from unrighteousness to righteousness, from darkness to the light of truth.
Review And Herald 18/02/1904
When the Christian takes his baptismal vow, Divine help is pledged to him. The Father, the Son, and the
Holy Spirit stand ready to work in his behalf.
Review And Herald 17/05/1906
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are pledged to co-operate with sanctified human instrumentalities.
Review And Herald 2/05/1912
The Godhead was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave
themselves to the working out of the plan of redemption.
Christ Is The Creator
1 Selected Messages 301
"All created beings are the recipients of the life of the Son of God,
the source of All Life. He is the spring, the fountain of life."
Desire Of Ages 20
"It was Christ that spread the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth."
"His strength setteth fast the mountains." Psalm 65:6
"The sea is His, and He made it." Psalm 95:5
Desire Of Ages 288
"Since He made all things, He made the Sabbath. Ezekiel 20:12."
"He who created all things in heaven and on earth."
6 Testimonies 342
Ellen White And The Trinity
5 www.WhiteEstate.org
"Abraham had ministered not only to heavenly angels, but to their Glorious Commander, his Creator,
Redeemer, and King."
1 Selected Messages 247
"The Word existed as the Eternal Son of God."
"From everlasting He was the mediator of the covenant."
"The Word was with God and the Word was God."
"The world was made by Him," and without Him was not anything made that was made"(John 1:3). If
Christ Made All Things He existed before all things. Christ was God essentially and in the highest sense.
He was with God from eternity, God Over All, blessed forever more."
"The Divine Son of God Existed From Eternity, as a distinct person yet one with the Father"
"He was the surpassing glory of heaven."
1 Selected Messages 248
"From everlasting to everlasting Thou art God" Psalm 90:2
"From everlasting." Micah 5:1,2
Christ Created The Earth
Christ Object Lessons 18
"The things of nature which His own hands had made."
Fundamentals Of Education 400
"The Creator of the world."
"The Eternal Word."
Desire Of Ages 649
"One equal with God by creating the world."
Great Controversy 651
"He whose power created and upheld unumbered worlds through the vast realms of space, the Beloved
God."
Messages Young People 300
"The Savior was in a world that He Himself had created."
1 Selected Messages 247
"The world was made by Him."
Story Of Redemption 13, 14
"The Son should be equal with the Father Himself."
"The Son was to work with the Father in the anticipated creation of the earth."
2 Testimonies 209
"Jesus had united with the Father in making the world."
6 Testimonies 182
"Christ who created the world and all the things that are therein."
Testimonies To Ministers 177
"The world was His, He made it."
Steps To Christ 88
"Without Him was not anything made that was made."
Ellen White And The Trinity
6 www.WhiteEstate.org
Christ Created The Planets
Desire Of Ages 87, 88
"The Creator of the worlds."
Desire Of Ages 288
"He who created all things in heaven and in the earth."
Christ Created The Heavenly Beings
Great Controversy 493
"Christ created all things in heaven."
Patriarchs And Prophets 34, 37
"The Son - the creator of all heavenly beings."
Christ Created The Laws Of Nature
Desire Of Ages 516
"He made the laws which govern all living things."
Christ Created Man
Councils On Diet 43
"Our Creator is Jesus Christ. He is the Author of our being."
Patriarchs And Prophets 36, 66
"Christ was still to exercise Divine power, in the creation of the earth and its inhabitants."
"The Son of God who created man."
Desire Of Ages 269, 270
"The same voice that spoke life to man created from the dust fo the earth had spoken life to the paralytic."
Steps To Christ 88
"Without Him was not anything made that was made."
Education 79
"He who created man understood the value of humanity."
Mount Of Blessings Preface vii
"Christ created man."
7 Testimonies 269
"Christ created man."
8 Testimonies 264
"Through Jesus Christ a personal God created man."
Medical Ministry 19
Ellen White And The Trinity
7 www.WhiteEstate.org
"He made the world."
Temperance 276
"Christ is man's Creator and Redeemer."
Christ Created The Sun And Moon
8 Testimonies 288
"The Sun and Moon were made by Him."
Christ Created The Oceans
Desire Of Ages 184
"He who made the oceans."
Christ Created The Stars
8 Testimonies 288
"There is not a star that beautifies the heavens that He did not make."
Christ Is Equal To God The Father
Fundamentals Of Education 142, 179, 382, 536
"Christ humbled himself from the position of one Equal With God."
"Christ - the One Equal With the Father."
"Who was with the Father from Eternal Ages."
"Him who was Equal With the Father from the beginning."
Patriarchs And Prophets 34, 37, 63, 69
"One with the eternal Father-One in Nature, in character, in purpose."
"One in Power and authority with the Father."
"The exaltation of the Son of God as Equal With the Father."
"Only one Equal With God could make atonement for transgression."
"But God gave His own dear Son - One Equal With Himself."
Story Of Redemption 13
"Christ His Son should be Equal With Himself."
Acts Apostles 333
"Presenting Christ as He was when Equal With God."
Desire Of Ages 207, 208, 649
"He declared Himself Equal With God."
"He claimed to be Equal With God."
"One Equal With God, acted as a servant to His disciples."
Evangelism 615
"He was Equal With God, INFINITE and OMNIPOTENT.
He is the Eternal, Self Existent Son."
Ellen White And The Trinity
8 www.WhiteEstate.org
Great Controversy 503
"Him who was Equal With God."
Messages Young People 255
"Christ who was the Monarch in heaven, Equal With God."
1 Selected Messages 69, 70, 308, 321, 371
"Jesus the Majesty of heaven, He who was Equal With God."
"Christ - Equal With God."
"Equal With God."
"The sacrifice of Him who was Equal With the Father."
2 Testimonies 200, 426
"He was Equal With God."
3 Testimonies 566
"Christ's position of one Equal With the Father."
4 Testimonies 458
"Could only be spoken by DEITY. "Christ when Equal With the Father."
8 Testimonies 268
"He has been made Equal With the Father."
Christ Is God The Son
Desire Ages 507, 785
"The DIETY of Christ."
5 Testimonies 346
"As DEITY He exerts mighty power on our behalf."
Evangelism 615
"The Pre existent, Self Existent Son of God."
"The Eternal Son of God."
Evangelism 616
"The existence of Christ before His incarnation is not measured by figures."
1 Selected Messages 247
"The Word existed as the Eternal Son of God."
"From everlasting He was the mediator of the covenant."
"The Word was with God and the Word was God."
"The world was made by Him," and without Him was not anything made that was made"(John 1:3). If
Christ Made All Things He existed before all things. Christ was God essentially and in the highest sense.
He was with God from eternity, God Over All, blessed forever more."
"The Divine Son of God Existed From Eternity, as a distinct person yet one with the Father"
"He was the surpassing glory of heaven."
Desire Of Ages 530
"In Christ is life, original, unborrowed, underived."
Ellen White And The Trinity
9 www.WhiteEstate.org
Christ Is Eternal
1 Selected Messages 247
"The Word existed as the Eternal Son of God."
"From everlasting He was the mediator of the covenant."
"The Word was with God and the Word was God."
Ellen G. White
Three Persons In The Godhead
"There are Three Living Persons in the heavenly TRIO."
Special Testimonies to SDA's
"There are Three Living Persons of the heavenly TRIO. In the name of these Three Powers--the Father, the
Son, and the Holy Ghost--those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will
cooperate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the new life of Christ."
Desire Of Ages 671
"In describing to His disciples the work of the Holy Spirit, Jesus sought to inspire them with the joy and
hope that inspired His own heart. Sin could be resisted and overcome through the mighty agency of the
Third Person of the Godhead."
Southern Watchman 28/11/1905
"He determined to give His representative (The Divine Spirit) the Third Person of the Godhead"
Review And Herald 19/05/1904
"Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead
(The Spirit), who would come in no modified energy, but in the fullness of Divine power."
Review And Herald 19/11/1908
"Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead
(The Holy Spirit), who would come in no modified energy, but in the fullness of Divine power."
Signs Times 1/12/1989
"He determined to give His representative, the Third Person of The Godhead."
Signs Times 19/06/1901
"Then cooperate with the Three Great Powers of Heaven who are working in your behalf."
Signs Times 12/02/1902
"As you openly renounce sin and Satan, the Three Great Powers of Heaven pledged themselves to help you
to overcome."
Signs Times 11/03/1903
"The Three Great Powers of Heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit."
Signs Times 10/05/1905
"Keep yourselves where the Three Great Powers of Heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit can be
your efficiency."
Ellen White And The Trinity
2 www.WhiteEstate.org
Signs Times 16/08/1905
"The Three Highest Powers in the Universe, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit can be your
efficiency."
"The Three Great Powers of Heaven pledge themselves to furnish the Christian with all the assurance he
requires."
Signs Times 10/05/1910
"They are to keep themselves where the Three Great Powers of Heaven,
the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit can be their efficiency."
Note Book Leaflets
"We will avail ourselves of the help of the Three Great Powers of Heaven."
Special Testimonies To Ministers And Workers
"Evil had been accumulating for centuries, and could only be restrained and resisted by the mighty power
of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Godhead."
"The prince of the power of evil can only be held in check by the power of God in the Third Person of the
Godhead, the Holy Spirit."
8 Testimonies 254
"In the great closing work we shall meet with perplexities that we know not how to deal with; but let us not
forget that the Three Great Powers of Heaven are working."
Australasian Conference Record 7/10/1907
"The Three Powers of the Godhead, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are pledged to be their strength and
their efficiency in their new life in Christ Jesus."
Bible Training School 1/03/1906
"There are Three Living Persons in the Heavenly TRIO. In the name of these Three Powers, -- the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Ghost, those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized."
General Conference Bulletin 4/04/1901
"We are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these Three Great, Infinite
Powers are unitedly pledged to work in our behalf if we will cooperate with them."
General Conference Bulletin 14/04/1901
"As at our baptism we pledged ourselves to Him, and received the ordinance in the name of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, these Three Great Powers of Heaven pledged themselves to work on our
behalf."
Pacific Union Recorder 2/07/1908
"The presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, the Three Highest Powers in the Universe and
those in whose name the believer is baptized, is pledged to be with every believing soul."
Southern Watchman 23/02/1904
"Keep yourselves where the Three Great Powers of Heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, can be
your efficiency."
Southern Watchman 15/12/1908
"In the presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, the Three Highest Powers in the Universe, is
pledged to be with every striving soul."
Review And Herald 5/05/1903
"In the great closing work we shall meet with perils that we know not how to deal with; but let us not forget
that the Three Great Powers of heaven are working."
Ellen White And The Trinity
3 www.WhiteEstate.org
Review And Herald 26/05/1904
"Let us not forget our baptismal vow. In the presence of the Three Highest Powers Of Heaven, the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Spirit, we have pledged ourselves to do the will of Him who, over the rent sepulcher
of Joseph, declared 'I am the resurrection and the life.'"
Review And Herald 15/06/1905
"And the Three Great Powers of Heaven pledged themselves to cooperate with you in your efforts to live
the new life in Christ."
Review And Herald 22/06/1905
"The help of the Three Great Powers (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) is placed at your disposal."
Review And Herald 18/07/1907
"The Three Powers of The Godhead have pledged their might to carry out the purpose that God had in mind
when He gave to the world the unspeakable gift of His Son."
Review And Herald 12/08/1909
"The Three Highest Powers in the Universe are pledged to labor with those who will seek to save the lost."
6 Testimonies 91
He has made this a positive condition with which all must comply who wish to be acknowledged as under
the authority of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Those who are baptized in the Threefold Name of
the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, at the very entrance of their Christian life declare publicly that they
have forsaken the service of Satan and have become members of the royal family, children of the heavenly
King.
6 Testimonies 98
In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit we are buried in the likeness of Christ's death and
raised in the likeness of His resurrection, and we are to live a new life. Our life is to be bound up with the
life of Christ. Henceforth the believer is to bear in mind that he is dedicated to God, to Christ, and to the
Holy Spirit.
6 Testimonies 99
The fact that you have been baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is an assurance
that, if you will claim Their help, these Powers will help you in every emergency.
8 Testimonies 194
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are seeking and longing for channels through which to
communicate to the world the divine principles of truth.
Acts Apostles 28
They were to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Austalasian Union Conference Record 1/04/1901
The Godhead was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave
themselves to the working out of the plan of redemption.
Austalasian Union Conference Record /06/1904
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have pledged themselves to aid you in your unselfish efforts to
turn men from unrighteousness to righteousness, from darkness to the light of truth.
Austalasian Conference Record 7/10/1907
The Three Powers of the Godhead, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, are pledged to be their strength and
their efficiency in their new life in Christ Jesus.
Ellen White And The Trinity
4 www.WhiteEstate.org
Needs Of The Cause In Australia 14/07/1903
The Godhead was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave
themselves to the working out of the plan of redemption.
Pacific Union Recorder 24/11/1904
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have pledged themselves to aid you in your unselfish efforts to
turn men from darkness to light.
Pacific Union Recorder 5/01/1905
The salvation of human beings is a vast enterprise, that calls into action Every Attribute of the Divine
Nature. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have pledged themselves to make God's children more
than conquerors through Him that loved them.
Review And Herald 7/01/1902
Christ came to this world and stood before men with the hoarded love of eternity. The whole ocean of
divine love was flowing forth from its great center. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were working
in behalf of man.
Review And Herald 27/01/1903
The salvation of human beings is a vast enterprise, that calls into action Every Attribute of the Divine
Nature. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have pledged themselves to make God's children more
than conquerors through him that has loved them.
Review And Herald 5/05/1903
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have pledged themselves to aid you in your unselfish efforts to
turn men from unrighteousness to righteousness, from darkness to the light of truth.
Review And Herald 18/02/1904
When the Christian takes his baptismal vow, Divine help is pledged to him. The Father, the Son, and the
Holy Spirit stand ready to work in his behalf.
Review And Herald 17/05/1906
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are pledged to co-operate with sanctified human instrumentalities.
Review And Herald 2/05/1912
The Godhead was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave
themselves to the working out of the plan of redemption.
Christ Is The Creator
1 Selected Messages 301
"All created beings are the recipients of the life of the Son of God,
the source of All Life. He is the spring, the fountain of life."
Desire Of Ages 20
"It was Christ that spread the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth."
"His strength setteth fast the mountains." Psalm 65:6
"The sea is His, and He made it." Psalm 95:5
Desire Of Ages 288
"Since He made all things, He made the Sabbath. Ezekiel 20:12."
"He who created all things in heaven and on earth."
6 Testimonies 342
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"Abraham had ministered not only to heavenly angels, but to their Glorious Commander, his Creator,
Redeemer, and King."
1 Selected Messages 247
"The Word existed as the Eternal Son of God."
"From everlasting He was the mediator of the covenant."
"The Word was with God and the Word was God."
"The world was made by Him," and without Him was not anything made that was made"(John 1:3). If
Christ Made All Things He existed before all things. Christ was God essentially and in the highest sense.
He was with God from eternity, God Over All, blessed forever more."
"The Divine Son of God Existed From Eternity, as a distinct person yet one with the Father"
"He was the surpassing glory of heaven."
1 Selected Messages 248
"From everlasting to everlasting Thou art God" Psalm 90:2
"From everlasting." Micah 5:1,2
Christ Created The Earth
Christ Object Lessons 18
"The things of nature which His own hands had made."
Fundamentals Of Education 400
"The Creator of the world."
"The Eternal Word."
Desire Of Ages 649
"One equal with God by creating the world."
Great Controversy 651
"He whose power created and upheld unumbered worlds through the vast realms of space, the Beloved
God."
Messages Young People 300
"The Savior was in a world that He Himself had created."
1 Selected Messages 247
"The world was made by Him."
Story Of Redemption 13, 14
"The Son should be equal with the Father Himself."
"The Son was to work with the Father in the anticipated creation of the earth."
2 Testimonies 209
"Jesus had united with the Father in making the world."
6 Testimonies 182
"Christ who created the world and all the things that are therein."
Testimonies To Ministers 177
"The world was His, He made it."
Steps To Christ 88
"Without Him was not anything made that was made."
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Christ Created The Planets
Desire Of Ages 87, 88
"The Creator of the worlds."
Desire Of Ages 288
"He who created all things in heaven and in the earth."
Christ Created The Heavenly Beings
Great Controversy 493
"Christ created all things in heaven."
Patriarchs And Prophets 34, 37
"The Son - the creator of all heavenly beings."
Christ Created The Laws Of Nature
Desire Of Ages 516
"He made the laws which govern all living things."
Christ Created Man
Councils On Diet 43
"Our Creator is Jesus Christ. He is the Author of our being."
Patriarchs And Prophets 36, 66
"Christ was still to exercise Divine power, in the creation of the earth and its inhabitants."
"The Son of God who created man."
Desire Of Ages 269, 270
"The same voice that spoke life to man created from the dust fo the earth had spoken life to the paralytic."
Steps To Christ 88
"Without Him was not anything made that was made."
Education 79
"He who created man understood the value of humanity."
Mount Of Blessings Preface vii
"Christ created man."
7 Testimonies 269
"Christ created man."
8 Testimonies 264
"Through Jesus Christ a personal God created man."
Medical Ministry 19
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"He made the world."
Temperance 276
"Christ is man's Creator and Redeemer."
Christ Created The Sun And Moon
8 Testimonies 288
"The Sun and Moon were made by Him."
Christ Created The Oceans
Desire Of Ages 184
"He who made the oceans."
Christ Created The Stars
8 Testimonies 288
"There is not a star that beautifies the heavens that He did not make."
Christ Is Equal To God The Father
Fundamentals Of Education 142, 179, 382, 536
"Christ humbled himself from the position of one Equal With God."
"Christ - the One Equal With the Father."
"Who was with the Father from Eternal Ages."
"Him who was Equal With the Father from the beginning."
Patriarchs And Prophets 34, 37, 63, 69
"One with the eternal Father-One in Nature, in character, in purpose."
"One in Power and authority with the Father."
"The exaltation of the Son of God as Equal With the Father."
"Only one Equal With God could make atonement for transgression."
"But God gave His own dear Son - One Equal With Himself."
Story Of Redemption 13
"Christ His Son should be Equal With Himself."
Acts Apostles 333
"Presenting Christ as He was when Equal With God."
Desire Of Ages 207, 208, 649
"He declared Himself Equal With God."
"He claimed to be Equal With God."
"One Equal With God, acted as a servant to His disciples."
Evangelism 615
"He was Equal With God, INFINITE and OMNIPOTENT.
He is the Eternal, Self Existent Son."
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Great Controversy 503
"Him who was Equal With God."
Messages Young People 255
"Christ who was the Monarch in heaven, Equal With God."
1 Selected Messages 69, 70, 308, 321, 371
"Jesus the Majesty of heaven, He who was Equal With God."
"Christ - Equal With God."
"Equal With God."
"The sacrifice of Him who was Equal With the Father."
2 Testimonies 200, 426
"He was Equal With God."
3 Testimonies 566
"Christ's position of one Equal With the Father."
4 Testimonies 458
"Could only be spoken by DEITY. "Christ when Equal With the Father."
8 Testimonies 268
"He has been made Equal With the Father."
Christ Is God The Son
Desire Ages 507, 785
"The DIETY of Christ."
5 Testimonies 346
"As DEITY He exerts mighty power on our behalf."
Evangelism 615
"The Pre existent, Self Existent Son of God."
"The Eternal Son of God."
Evangelism 616
"The existence of Christ before His incarnation is not measured by figures."
1 Selected Messages 247
"The Word existed as the Eternal Son of God."
"From everlasting He was the mediator of the covenant."
"The Word was with God and the Word was God."
"The world was made by Him," and without Him was not anything made that was made"(John 1:3). If
Christ Made All Things He existed before all things. Christ was God essentially and in the highest sense.
He was with God from eternity, God Over All, blessed forever more."
"The Divine Son of God Existed From Eternity, as a distinct person yet one with the Father"
"He was the surpassing glory of heaven."
Desire Of Ages 530
"In Christ is life, original, unborrowed, underived."
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Christ Is Eternal
1 Selected Messages 247
"The Word existed as the Eternal Son of God."
"From everlasting He was the mediator of the covenant."
"The Word was with God and the Word was God."
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Seventh Day Adventists and the Deity of Christ
(Ellen White's comments on the Deity of Christ)
"The world was made by Him," and without Him was not anything made that was made"(John 1:3). If
Christ Made All Things He existed before all things. Christ was God essentially and in the highest sense.
He was with God from eternity, God Over All, blessed forever more."
"The Divine Son of God Existed From Eternity, as a distinct person yet one with the Father"
"He was the surpassing glory of heaven."
Acts Of The Apostles 38, 39
"Christ was indeed glorified, even with the glory which He had with the Father from All Eternity."
9 Testimonies 220
"From Eternity Christ had been man's Redeemer."
Evangelism 615
"The Pre existent, Self Existent Son of God."
"The Eternal Son of God."
Patriarchs And Prophets 38
"Christ had EVER stood at the right hand of the Father."
1 Selected Messages 228
"From all eternity Christ was united with the Father."
Fundamentals Education 382
"The Son of God who was with the Father form Eternal Ages."
Child Guidance 166
"Trial cannot move the building which is riveted to the Eternal Rock."
Desire Ages 600
"The Eternal Rock, the chief cornerstone Jesus Christ."
Fundamentals Education 289, 461
"Those whose souls are not riveted to the Eternal Rock will be swept away."
"The salvation of our people depends on being riveted on the Eternal Rock."
Temperance 108
"The receiver possesses stronger, clearer understanding than before he riveted his soul to the Eternal Rock."
3 Testimonies 217
"They need to drink of the unceasing streams which proceed from the Eternal Rock."
6 Testimonies 146
"Those whose souls are not riveted to the Eternal Rock will be swept away."
Fundamentals Education 400
"The Eternal Word."
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Christ Is God In The Flesh
Councils On Stewardship 349
"God manifest in the flesh."
Desire Of Ages 311
"He was God in the flesh."
Prophets And Kings 597
"God Himself manifested in the flesh."
Desire Of Ages 326, 664
"God was with them in the flesh."
"Christ had not ceased to be God when he became man."
"The Godhead was still His own."
"God in human flesh."
"God was manifested in Him."
Fundamentals Education 179,180
"God in the flesh, God in Christ."
Great Controversy 24
"The fullness of the Godhead bodily - who was God."
1 Selected Messages 244
"Yet He was God in the flesh (Exodus 3:5)."
6 Testimonies 230
"God in Human Form has bought life and immortality."
6 Testimonies 392
"The GOD who walked with Enoch was our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ."
Evangelism 616
"Christ and the Father, standing side by side upon the mount,
with solemn majesty proclaimed the 10 Commandments."
Christ Is God
5 Testimonies 346
"As DEITY He exerts mighty power on our behalf."
Desire Of Ages 19
"God with us."
"From the days of ETERNITY the Lord Jesus Christ was one with the Father."
Desire Of Ages 20
"It was Christ that spread the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth."
Desire Of Ages 23
"He was the INCARNATE GOD."
Desire Of Ages 484
"As God He was the foundation of life for the world."
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Fundamentals Education 379
"The LORD GOD came down to this world clothed in humanity."
2 Testimonies 200
"He was Equal With God."
Christ – The I Am That I Am
Desire Of Ages 24, 25, 52
"It was Christ who from that burning bush at Mount Horeb spoke to Moses
saying I AM THAT I AM."
"He declared Himself the I AM."
"I AM the Good Shepherd"
"I AM the living bread."
"I AM the way."
"The I AM is the Daysman between God and humanity."
"It was He who declared Himself to Moses as the I AM."
Desire Of Ages 469,470,655
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM."
"He announced Himself to be the Self Existent One."
"When it comes to pass, you may believe that I AM."
6 Testimonies 20
"Christ is to be revealed as the I AM."
Christ Is Jehovah
Councils On Health 455
"Jehovah Emmanuel - God of Israel."
Mount Blessings 34
"Jehovah Emmanuel - The Godhead bodily."
Mount Blessings 108
"Jehovah Emmanuel - God Himself."
3 Testimonies 328
"Notwithstanding the INFINITE POWER and MAJESTY of God and Christ, angels became disaffected."
Desire Of Ages 23
"The burning bush, in which Christ appeared to Moses, revealed God. The symbol chosen for the
representation of DEITY was a lowly shrub, that seemingly had no attractions. This enshrined the
INFINITE."
Great Controversy 470
"Like Moses they see the purity and exalted perfection of the INFINTIE ONE."
The Sanctified Life 38
"When Christ manifests Himself they feel themselves to be in the presence of the INFINITE ONE and
acknowledge that the LIVING GOD is above every earthly power."
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"This is the reward of all who follow Christ - Jehovah Emmanuel."
Review And Herald 10/02/1909
"This is the reward of all who follow Christ - Jehovah Emmanuel."
Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament
6 Testimonies 392
"Abel was a believer in Christ."
"The God who walked with Enoch was our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ."
6 Testimonies 341, 342
"Abraham (Genesis 18:2, 3) had ministered not only to heavenly angels, but to their glorious commander,
his Creator, Redeemer, and King."
Desire Of Ages 23, 24
"The burning bush, in which Christ appeared to Moses."
"Christ is the I AM THAT I AM speaking to Moses."
1 Selected Messages 244
"We would do well to heed the words spoken by Christ to Moses at the burning bush (Exodus 3:5)."
Patriarchs And Prophets 411
"It was Christ, by the power of His Word that caused the refreshing stream to flow for Israel."
3 Spiritual Gifts 257
"It was Christ who stood by him and caused the water to flow from the flinty rock."
Story Redemption 132
"It was Christ who stood by him and caused the water to flow from the flinty rock."
Medical Ministry 49
"It was He who called Moses into the mount and gave him instruction for His people. In awful granduer
Christ made known the law of Jehovah."
Desire Of Ages 52
"It was He who declared Himself to Moses as the I AM."
"It was he who in the pillar of cloud and of fire had been the guide of Israel."
3 Testimonies 343
"They saw the glorious light which covered the Divine form of Christ."
Patriarchs And Prophets 366
"Amid the awful glory of Sinai, Christ declared the 10 Precepts of His Father's Law. It was Christ who
gave to Moses the law engraved
upon the tables of stone."
Mount Of Blessings 45
"It was Christ who had proclaimed the law upon Mount Sinai."
Mount Of Blessings 47
"The precepts that God had given to Moses at Mount Sinai were communicated from Christ."
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Historical Sketches 231
"Christ and the Father, standing side by side upon the mount, with solemn majesty proclaimed the 10
Commandments."
Desire Of Ages 158
"The same voice that upon Mount Sinai proclaimed the law."
6 Testimonies 60
"The law which Christ Himself proclaimed from Sinai."
8 Testimonies 198
"By proclaiming the 10 Commandments to Israel, Christ is our Redeemer speaking from Sinai."
Christ The Pillar of Cloud And Fire
Child Guidance 182,355
"The Leader of the armies of Israel, whose glory was enshrouded in the pillar of cloud."
"From the pillar of cloud Jesus gave directions through Moses to the Hebrews."
Christ Object Lessons 287
"Enshrouded in the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night Jesus lead and guided them."
Desire Of Ages 52, 500, 555
"It was He who in the pillar of cloud and of fire had been the guide of Israel."
"From the pillar of cloud and of fire Jesus taught a very different lesson."
"These words had been spoken by Christ Himself when He was enshrouded in the pillar of cloud."
Patriarchs And Prophets 298, 311
"It was the Son of God who, veiled in the cloudy pillar, stood beside Moses."
"Christ in the pillar of cloud and of fire was their Leader."
Patriarchs And Prophets 366, 437
"Christ was not only the Leader of the Hebrews veiled in the cloudy pillar but it was He who gave the law
to Israel."
"The Son of God, enshrined in the cloudy pillar."
1 Selected Messages 315
"Jesus was the angel enshrouded in the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night."
"The same law was proclaimed in grandeur by His own voice from Sinai."
Story Of Redemption 178
"The Lord Jesus Christ, enshrouded in the pillar of fire by night and the pillar of cloud by day."
4 Testimonies 159
"The Son of God, enshrouded in a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night."
6 Testimonies 350
"From the pillar of cloud Christ declared concerning the Sabbath: 'Verily My Sabbaths shall you keep'."
Testimonies To Ministers 332, 333, 405
"The only begotten Son of God when enshrouded in the cloudy pillar."
"Jesus, their invisible Leader, was shrouded in the pillar of fire and of cloud."
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1E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, l958), p. 296. Citing The Signs of the Times, April 8, 1897.
2E. G. White, Evangelism (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1946), p. 615. Citing Manuscript 101, 1897.
3E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1958), p. 247. Citing Review and Herald, April 5, 1906.
4E. G. White, Evangelism (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1946), p. 615. Citing The Signs of the Times, August 29, 1900.
5Ibid., p. 616. Citing The Signs of the Times, May 3, 1899.
6E.G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. IX (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1909), p, 220.
7E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1958), p. 243. Citing The Youth’s Instructor, October 13, 1898.
8E. G. White, "The Word Made Flesh," Review and Herald, LXXXIII (April 5, 1906), 8. Cited by 5 BC, 1126.
9E. G. White, The Great Controversy (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1888), p. 495.
10E. G. White, Fundamentals of Christian Education (Nashville, Tenn.: Southern Publishing Association, 1923), p. 179. Citing Review and Herald, November 17, 1891.
11E. G. White, "Imperative Necessity of Searching for Truth," Review and Herald, LXIX (November 8, 1892), 690.
12E. G. White, "The Word Made Flesh," Review and Herald, LXXXIII (April 5, 1906), 8. Cited by 5 BC, 1126.
13E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. I (Battle Creek, Steam Press of the Seventh-day Adventist Publishing Association, 1870) pp. 17, 18.
14Ibid., p. 18.
15E. G. White, Patriarchs and Prophets (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1890), pp. 37, 38.
16E. G. White, "The Word Made Flesh," Review and Herald, LXXXIII (April 5, 1906), 8. Cited by 5 BC, 1126.
17E. G. White, "Child Life of Jesus," The Signs of the Times, (July 30, 1896), 5.
18E. G. White, "God Manifest in the Flesh," The Signs of the Times (April 26, 1905), 8.
19E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Publishing Association, 1898), p. 469.
20Ibid., pp. 207, 208.
21Ibid.
22E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D.C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1958), p. 228. Citing The Signs of the Times, August 2, 1905.
23E. G. White, "Christ Glorified," The Signs of the Times, XXV May 10, 1899), 2. Cited by 5 BC, 1129.
24E. G. White, "Tempted In All Points Like As We Are," The Signs of the Times, XXIV (June 9, 1898), 2.
25E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 119.
26E. G. White, "After the Crucifixion," The Youth’s Instructor, XLIX (April 25, 1901), 130.
27E. G. White, "Christ Revealed the Father," Review and Herald, LXVII (January 7, 1890), 1.
28E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 536.
29Ibid., p. 528.
30Ibid.
31Ibid., p. 529.
32Ibid., p. 530.
33E. G. White, "Christ Revealed the Father," Review and Herald, LXVII (January 7, 1890), 1.
34E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 268.
35Ibid., pp. 269, 270.
36Ibid., p. 336.
37Ibid., p. 536.
38E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D.C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, l958), p. 301. Citing The Youth’s Instructor, August 4, 1898.
39E. G. White, Manuscript 140, 1903. Cited by 5 BC, 1129.
40E. G. White, Letter 280, 1904. Cited by 5 BC, 1113.
41E. G. White, Manuscript 131, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1113.
42E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. II (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1869), p. 211.
43Ibid., p. 212.
44Ibid., p. 206.
45E. G. White, Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 484.
46Ibid., p. 118.
47E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. III (Battle Creek, Mich.: Steam Press of the Seventh-day Adventist Publishing Association, 1878) pp. 203, 204.
48E. G. White, Manuscript 94, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1114.
49E. G. White, Manuscript 115, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1110.
50E. G. White, "Beware of Imitations," The Youth’s Instructor, XLIII (February 7, 1895), 44.
51E. G. White, Manuscript 131, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1113.
52E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Publishing Association, 1898), pp. 131, 693.
53E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. II (Mountain View Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1869), p. 214.
54White, op. cit., p. 686.
55Ibid., p. 753.
56Revelation 5:11, 12.
57E. G. White, "Christ Glorified," The Signs of the Times, XXV (May 10, 1899), 2. Cited by 5 BC, 1146.
58Ibid.
59E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. VIII (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1904), pp. 268, 269.
60E. G. White, The Acts of the Apostles (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1911), p. 38.
61E. G. White, Manuscript 33, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1092.
62E. G. White, Manuscript 81, 1900. Cited by 5 BC, 955.
63E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy Vol. IV (Battle Creek, Mich.: Review and Herald Publishing Co., 1884), p. 480.
64Ibid., p. 484.
65Ibid., p. 486.
66As a suggested interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:28 the present writer would offer the following. The text cannot refer to the subordination of the human in Christ to the Father. According to 1 Corinthians 15:24 the change that takes place comes at "the end." The human in Christ is subordinate now just as it has always been since the birth of the Saviour. This change does not occur at the "end" or "when all things shall be subdued unto Him." Since the Son is co-equal with the Father, "in the Father," and the "express image of the Father," He is included in "God" who is "all in all." God cannot be subject to God. Therefore Christ cannot be subject to the Father, in the ordinary sense. The Son becomes "subject unto Him" in the sense that the Son ceases to carry out a distinct mediatorial work for man, and all that He bought back by the vicarious sacrifice is now entirely subordinate to God—Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The distinctive work of the Son ceases and God becomes "all in all." The Son is no longer a separate functionary within the Deity and the plan of redemption is acknowledged to have been the achievement of a unified God.
Seventh Day Adventists and the Deity of Christ
(Ellen White's comments on the Deity of Christ)
"The world was made by Him," and without Him was not anything made that was made"(John 1:3). If
Christ Made All Things He existed before all things. Christ was God essentially and in the highest sense.
He was with God from eternity, God Over All, blessed forever more."
"The Divine Son of God Existed From Eternity, as a distinct person yet one with the Father"
"He was the surpassing glory of heaven."
Acts Of The Apostles 38, 39
"Christ was indeed glorified, even with the glory which He had with the Father from All Eternity."
9 Testimonies 220
"From Eternity Christ had been man's Redeemer."
Evangelism 615
"The Pre existent, Self Existent Son of God."
"The Eternal Son of God."
Patriarchs And Prophets 38
"Christ had EVER stood at the right hand of the Father."
1 Selected Messages 228
"From all eternity Christ was united with the Father."
Fundamentals Education 382
"The Son of God who was with the Father form Eternal Ages."
Child Guidance 166
"Trial cannot move the building which is riveted to the Eternal Rock."
Desire Ages 600
"The Eternal Rock, the chief cornerstone Jesus Christ."
Fundamentals Education 289, 461
"Those whose souls are not riveted to the Eternal Rock will be swept away."
"The salvation of our people depends on being riveted on the Eternal Rock."
Temperance 108
"The receiver possesses stronger, clearer understanding than before he riveted his soul to the Eternal Rock."
3 Testimonies 217
"They need to drink of the unceasing streams which proceed from the Eternal Rock."
6 Testimonies 146
"Those whose souls are not riveted to the Eternal Rock will be swept away."
Fundamentals Education 400
"The Eternal Word."
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Christ Is God In The Flesh
Councils On Stewardship 349
"God manifest in the flesh."
Desire Of Ages 311
"He was God in the flesh."
Prophets And Kings 597
"God Himself manifested in the flesh."
Desire Of Ages 326, 664
"God was with them in the flesh."
"Christ had not ceased to be God when he became man."
"The Godhead was still His own."
"God in human flesh."
"God was manifested in Him."
Fundamentals Education 179,180
"God in the flesh, God in Christ."
Great Controversy 24
"The fullness of the Godhead bodily - who was God."
1 Selected Messages 244
"Yet He was God in the flesh (Exodus 3:5)."
6 Testimonies 230
"God in Human Form has bought life and immortality."
6 Testimonies 392
"The GOD who walked with Enoch was our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ."
Evangelism 616
"Christ and the Father, standing side by side upon the mount,
with solemn majesty proclaimed the 10 Commandments."
Christ Is God
5 Testimonies 346
"As DEITY He exerts mighty power on our behalf."
Desire Of Ages 19
"God with us."
"From the days of ETERNITY the Lord Jesus Christ was one with the Father."
Desire Of Ages 20
"It was Christ that spread the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth."
Desire Of Ages 23
"He was the INCARNATE GOD."
Desire Of Ages 484
"As God He was the foundation of life for the world."
Ellen White And The Trinity
11 www.WhiteEstate.org
Fundamentals Education 379
"The LORD GOD came down to this world clothed in humanity."
2 Testimonies 200
"He was Equal With God."
Christ – The I Am That I Am
Desire Of Ages 24, 25, 52
"It was Christ who from that burning bush at Mount Horeb spoke to Moses
saying I AM THAT I AM."
"He declared Himself the I AM."
"I AM the Good Shepherd"
"I AM the living bread."
"I AM the way."
"The I AM is the Daysman between God and humanity."
"It was He who declared Himself to Moses as the I AM."
Desire Of Ages 469,470,655
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM."
"He announced Himself to be the Self Existent One."
"When it comes to pass, you may believe that I AM."
6 Testimonies 20
"Christ is to be revealed as the I AM."
Christ Is Jehovah
Councils On Health 455
"Jehovah Emmanuel - God of Israel."
Mount Blessings 34
"Jehovah Emmanuel - The Godhead bodily."
Mount Blessings 108
"Jehovah Emmanuel - God Himself."
3 Testimonies 328
"Notwithstanding the INFINITE POWER and MAJESTY of God and Christ, angels became disaffected."
Desire Of Ages 23
"The burning bush, in which Christ appeared to Moses, revealed God. The symbol chosen for the
representation of DEITY was a lowly shrub, that seemingly had no attractions. This enshrined the
INFINITE."
Great Controversy 470
"Like Moses they see the purity and exalted perfection of the INFINTIE ONE."
The Sanctified Life 38
"When Christ manifests Himself they feel themselves to be in the presence of the INFINITE ONE and
acknowledge that the LIVING GOD is above every earthly power."
Ellen White And The Trinity
12 www.WhiteEstate.org
Review And Herald 5/11/1908
"This is the reward of all who follow Christ - Jehovah Emmanuel."
Review And Herald 10/02/1909
"This is the reward of all who follow Christ - Jehovah Emmanuel."
Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament
6 Testimonies 392
"Abel was a believer in Christ."
"The God who walked with Enoch was our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ."
6 Testimonies 341, 342
"Abraham (Genesis 18:2, 3) had ministered not only to heavenly angels, but to their glorious commander,
his Creator, Redeemer, and King."
Desire Of Ages 23, 24
"The burning bush, in which Christ appeared to Moses."
"Christ is the I AM THAT I AM speaking to Moses."
1 Selected Messages 244
"We would do well to heed the words spoken by Christ to Moses at the burning bush (Exodus 3:5)."
Patriarchs And Prophets 411
"It was Christ, by the power of His Word that caused the refreshing stream to flow for Israel."
3 Spiritual Gifts 257
"It was Christ who stood by him and caused the water to flow from the flinty rock."
Story Redemption 132
"It was Christ who stood by him and caused the water to flow from the flinty rock."
Medical Ministry 49
"It was He who called Moses into the mount and gave him instruction for His people. In awful granduer
Christ made known the law of Jehovah."
Desire Of Ages 52
"It was He who declared Himself to Moses as the I AM."
"It was he who in the pillar of cloud and of fire had been the guide of Israel."
3 Testimonies 343
"They saw the glorious light which covered the Divine form of Christ."
Patriarchs And Prophets 366
"Amid the awful glory of Sinai, Christ declared the 10 Precepts of His Father's Law. It was Christ who
gave to Moses the law engraved
upon the tables of stone."
Mount Of Blessings 45
"It was Christ who had proclaimed the law upon Mount Sinai."
Mount Of Blessings 47
"The precepts that God had given to Moses at Mount Sinai were communicated from Christ."
Ellen White And The Trinity
13
Historical Sketches 231
"Christ and the Father, standing side by side upon the mount, with solemn majesty proclaimed the 10
Commandments."
Desire Of Ages 158
"The same voice that upon Mount Sinai proclaimed the law."
6 Testimonies 60
"The law which Christ Himself proclaimed from Sinai."
8 Testimonies 198
"By proclaiming the 10 Commandments to Israel, Christ is our Redeemer speaking from Sinai."
Christ The Pillar of Cloud And Fire
Child Guidance 182,355
"The Leader of the armies of Israel, whose glory was enshrouded in the pillar of cloud."
"From the pillar of cloud Jesus gave directions through Moses to the Hebrews."
Christ Object Lessons 287
"Enshrouded in the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night Jesus lead and guided them."
Desire Of Ages 52, 500, 555
"It was He who in the pillar of cloud and of fire had been the guide of Israel."
"From the pillar of cloud and of fire Jesus taught a very different lesson."
"These words had been spoken by Christ Himself when He was enshrouded in the pillar of cloud."
Patriarchs And Prophets 298, 311
"It was the Son of God who, veiled in the cloudy pillar, stood beside Moses."
"Christ in the pillar of cloud and of fire was their Leader."
Patriarchs And Prophets 366, 437
"Christ was not only the Leader of the Hebrews veiled in the cloudy pillar but it was He who gave the law
to Israel."
"The Son of God, enshrined in the cloudy pillar."
1 Selected Messages 315
"Jesus was the angel enshrouded in the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night."
"The same law was proclaimed in grandeur by His own voice from Sinai."
Story Of Redemption 178
"The Lord Jesus Christ, enshrouded in the pillar of fire by night and the pillar of cloud by day."
4 Testimonies 159
"The Son of God, enshrouded in a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night."
6 Testimonies 350
"From the pillar of cloud Christ declared concerning the Sabbath: 'Verily My Sabbaths shall you keep'."
Testimonies To Ministers 332, 333, 405
"The only begotten Son of God when enshrouded in the cloudy pillar."
"Jesus, their invisible Leader, was shrouded in the pillar of fire and of cloud."
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1E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, l958), p. 296. Citing The Signs of the Times, April 8, 1897.
2E. G. White, Evangelism (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1946), p. 615. Citing Manuscript 101, 1897.
3E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1958), p. 247. Citing Review and Herald, April 5, 1906.
4E. G. White, Evangelism (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1946), p. 615. Citing The Signs of the Times, August 29, 1900.
5Ibid., p. 616. Citing The Signs of the Times, May 3, 1899.
6E.G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. IX (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1909), p, 220.
7E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1958), p. 243. Citing The Youth’s Instructor, October 13, 1898.
8E. G. White, "The Word Made Flesh," Review and Herald, LXXXIII (April 5, 1906), 8. Cited by 5 BC, 1126.
9E. G. White, The Great Controversy (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1888), p. 495.
10E. G. White, Fundamentals of Christian Education (Nashville, Tenn.: Southern Publishing Association, 1923), p. 179. Citing Review and Herald, November 17, 1891.
11E. G. White, "Imperative Necessity of Searching for Truth," Review and Herald, LXIX (November 8, 1892), 690.
12E. G. White, "The Word Made Flesh," Review and Herald, LXXXIII (April 5, 1906), 8. Cited by 5 BC, 1126.
13E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. I (Battle Creek, Steam Press of the Seventh-day Adventist Publishing Association, 1870) pp. 17, 18.
14Ibid., p. 18.
15E. G. White, Patriarchs and Prophets (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1890), pp. 37, 38.
16E. G. White, "The Word Made Flesh," Review and Herald, LXXXIII (April 5, 1906), 8. Cited by 5 BC, 1126.
17E. G. White, "Child Life of Jesus," The Signs of the Times, (July 30, 1896), 5.
18E. G. White, "God Manifest in the Flesh," The Signs of the Times (April 26, 1905), 8.
19E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Publishing Association, 1898), p. 469.
20Ibid., pp. 207, 208.
21Ibid.
22E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D.C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1958), p. 228. Citing The Signs of the Times, August 2, 1905.
23E. G. White, "Christ Glorified," The Signs of the Times, XXV May 10, 1899), 2. Cited by 5 BC, 1129.
24E. G. White, "Tempted In All Points Like As We Are," The Signs of the Times, XXIV (June 9, 1898), 2.
25E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 119.
26E. G. White, "After the Crucifixion," The Youth’s Instructor, XLIX (April 25, 1901), 130.
27E. G. White, "Christ Revealed the Father," Review and Herald, LXVII (January 7, 1890), 1.
28E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 536.
29Ibid., p. 528.
30Ibid.
31Ibid., p. 529.
32Ibid., p. 530.
33E. G. White, "Christ Revealed the Father," Review and Herald, LXVII (January 7, 1890), 1.
34E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 268.
35Ibid., pp. 269, 270.
36Ibid., p. 336.
37Ibid., p. 536.
38E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D.C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, l958), p. 301. Citing The Youth’s Instructor, August 4, 1898.
39E. G. White, Manuscript 140, 1903. Cited by 5 BC, 1129.
40E. G. White, Letter 280, 1904. Cited by 5 BC, 1113.
41E. G. White, Manuscript 131, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1113.
42E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. II (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1869), p. 211.
43Ibid., p. 212.
44Ibid., p. 206.
45E. G. White, Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 484.
46Ibid., p. 118.
47E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. III (Battle Creek, Mich.: Steam Press of the Seventh-day Adventist Publishing Association, 1878) pp. 203, 204.
48E. G. White, Manuscript 94, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1114.
49E. G. White, Manuscript 115, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1110.
50E. G. White, "Beware of Imitations," The Youth’s Instructor, XLIII (February 7, 1895), 44.
51E. G. White, Manuscript 131, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1113.
52E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Publishing Association, 1898), pp. 131, 693.
53E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. II (Mountain View Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1869), p. 214.
54White, op. cit., p. 686.
55Ibid., p. 753.
56Revelation 5:11, 12.
57E. G. White, "Christ Glorified," The Signs of the Times, XXV (May 10, 1899), 2. Cited by 5 BC, 1146.
58Ibid.
59E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. VIII (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1904), pp. 268, 269.
60E. G. White, The Acts of the Apostles (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1911), p. 38.
61E. G. White, Manuscript 33, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1092.
62E. G. White, Manuscript 81, 1900. Cited by 5 BC, 955.
63E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy Vol. IV (Battle Creek, Mich.: Review and Herald Publishing Co., 1884), p. 480.
64Ibid., p. 484.
65Ibid., p. 486.
66As a suggested interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:28 the present writer would offer the following. The text cannot refer to the subordination of the human in Christ to the Father. According to 1 Corinthians 15:24 the change that takes place comes at "the end." The human in Christ is subordinate now just as it has always been since the birth of the Saviour. This change does not occur at the "end" or "when all things shall be subdued unto Him." Since the Son is co-equal with the Father, "in the Father," and the "express image of the Father," He is included in "God" who is "all in all." God cannot be subject to God. Therefore Christ cannot be subject to the Father, in the ordinary sense. The Son becomes "subject unto Him" in the sense that the Son ceases to carry out a distinct mediatorial work for man, and all that He bought back by the vicarious sacrifice is now entirely subordinate to God—Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The distinctive work of the Son ceases and God becomes "all in all." The Son is no longer a separate functionary within the Deity and the plan of redemption is acknowledged to have been the achievement of a unified God.
D
So you do not use the word "Trinity" because it is not in the bible? The word "bible" is not in the bible, so I assume you don't use that word either right? We describe God with words like "omniscience", "omnipresence" and "omnipotent" yet those words do not exist in the bible either---so I assume you never use those words either? Right??
In fact there are many words not found in the bible yet the concepts behind those words you do not use are clearly taught in scripture! Here is a small list of words that are not in the bible yet the concept of the word is clearly in the bible!
Atheism - "The fool has said in his heart there is no god." Pslam 14:1
Dininity - Psalm 139
Incarnation - John 1:1,14
Monotheism - Isa 43:10 Duet 6:4
Rapture - Thes. 4:16-18
I am sure you don't use these pesky words either right?
In fact there are many words not found in the bible yet the concepts behind those words you do not use are clearly taught in scripture! Here is a small list of words that are not in the bible yet the concept of the word is clearly in the bible!
Atheism - "The fool has said in his heart there is no god." Pslam 14:1
Dininity - Psalm 139
Incarnation - John 1:1,14
Monotheism - Isa 43:10 Duet 6:4
Rapture - Thes. 4:16-18
I am sure you don't use these pesky words either right?
C
If only the theology ends there.
I have asked in quite a few trinity threads but either I overlooked or no one wanted to answer.
The Trinitarian theology I have "encountered" preaches and considered essential the Eternal Sonship of the second person of the godhead. Why is that essential? Well if one looks at the other teachings from the same source I guess it's not hard to figure out.
The source I encountered teaches the deity of Mary the mother.
May be the question I wanted to ask the Trinitarians on the forum is, where is your teaching coming from?
I have asked in quite a few trinity threads but either I overlooked or no one wanted to answer.
The Trinitarian theology I have "encountered" preaches and considered essential the Eternal Sonship of the second person of the godhead. Why is that essential? Well if one looks at the other teachings from the same source I guess it's not hard to figure out.
The source I encountered teaches the deity of Mary the mother.
May be the question I wanted to ask the Trinitarians on the forum is, where is your teaching coming from?
F
Hello
It's enjoyable to discuss God. Heated debate...perhaps not so much. On that I can definitely agree.
Just one point, please. They do not all have the same purpose and goal.
The Spirit = glorifies the Son
The Son = glorifies the Father
The Father = seeks to glorify Himself (He is worthy)
What sort of goal did you have in mind?
Or did you mean to post purpose or goal (probably one in the same)?
It's enjoyable to discuss God. Heated debate...perhaps not so much. On that I can definitely agree.
Just one point, please. They do not all have the same purpose and goal.
The Spirit = glorifies the Son
The Son = glorifies the Father
The Father = seeks to glorify Himself (He is worthy)
What sort of goal did you have in mind?
Or did you mean to post purpose or goal (probably one in the same)?
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Hello
Just one point, please. They do not all have the same purpose and goal.
The Spirit = glorifies the Son
The Son = glorifies the Father
The Father = seeks to glorify Himself (He is worthy)
Just one point, please. They do not all have the same purpose and goal.
The Spirit = glorifies the Son
The Son = glorifies the Father
The Father = seeks to glorify Himself (He is worthy)
my conclusion was that the Holy Spirit Glorifies the Son and the Father to the believer through The Word
M
There is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. All three have the same purpose and goals.
I really don't see why Christians spend hours and hours debating about it. To me, THAT is stupid.
Hello
It's enjoyable to discuss God. Heated debate...perhaps not so much. On that I can definitely agree.
Just one point, please. They do not all have the same purpose and goal.
The Spirit = glorifies the Son
The Son = glorifies the Father
The Father = seeks to glorify Himself (He is worthy)
What sort of goal did you have in mind?
Or did you mean to post purpose or goal (probably one in the same)?
It's enjoyable to discuss God. Heated debate...perhaps not so much. On that I can definitely agree.
Just one point, please. They do not all have the same purpose and goal.
The Spirit = glorifies the Son
The Son = glorifies the Father
The Father = seeks to glorify Himself (He is worthy)
What sort of goal did you have in mind?
Or did you mean to post purpose or goal (probably one in the same)?
In Christ, Mike
T
John 1 is looked like a clear cut trinity section, but its not at all.
You all look at it as God=word
word=Jesus
God=Jesus.
You don't even question what the word "word" means. The word for "word" in greek is logos. Its Gods thoughts or his plan. Basically, although I don't think God has a mind like ours at all, its basically saying his mind. What he thinks and such. Jesus is the word manifested in the flesh. I agree with you on that, that Jesus is God's plan and thoughts manifested in the flesh because he perfectly fulfilled the will of the father. That does not make Jesus God, simply that he acted exactly how God wants everyone to act.
You all look at it as God=word
word=Jesus
God=Jesus.
You don't even question what the word "word" means. The word for "word" in greek is logos. Its Gods thoughts or his plan. Basically, although I don't think God has a mind like ours at all, its basically saying his mind. What he thinks and such. Jesus is the word manifested in the flesh. I agree with you on that, that Jesus is God's plan and thoughts manifested in the flesh because he perfectly fulfilled the will of the father. That does not make Jesus God, simply that he acted exactly how God wants everyone to act.