So many stupid posts about denying the trinity - We can affirm it
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To me the biggest proof is Hebrew itself as in Hebrew you have the following..
Singular
Dual-->pairs
Plural-->three or more
When God breathed into Adam the breath of life<-----Life is plural in Hebrew and means...
God breathed into Adam the breath of lives--->Physical Life, Spiritual Life and Intellectual Life
Not to mention all the proof that is in the (pudding) if you will that is rejected by people who do not believe it.
Singular
Dual-->pairs
Plural-->three or more
When God breathed into Adam the breath of life<-----Life is plural in Hebrew and means...
God breathed into Adam the breath of lives--->Physical Life, Spiritual Life and Intellectual Life
Not to mention all the proof that is in the (pudding) if you will that is rejected by people who do not believe it.
K
I don't say Trinity because the Word does not say Trinity. Messiah is the Son of the Most High Almighty. He has been given all authority and no man will be saved unless he comes to Messiah. Messiah is the Word, was always with the Father, came to do the Father's will, etc. , according to the Word.
Why try to define the undefinable? My Salvation does not depend on agreeing with the RCC. You do know that's where Trinity came from, right?
[h=3]Romans 10:9-10[/h]English Standard Version (ESV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
Why try to define the undefinable? My Salvation does not depend on agreeing with the RCC. You do know that's where Trinity came from, right?
[h=3]Romans 10:9-10[/h]English Standard Version (ESV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
I guess biblically it's not called the Trinity, but let me put it this way: If God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all perfect, and they are not three in one, Then we have a polytheistic religion, don't we? Trinity simply means three in One,
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one - 1 John 5:7-8 (KJV).
So maybe Trinity's just a word we came up with so we don't have to keep saying three in one, but the concept remains the same.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one - 1 John 5:7-8 (KJV).
So maybe Trinity's just a word we came up with so we don't have to keep saying three in one, but the concept remains the same.
T
Also there are plenty of things that question the trinity.
Some major differences between God and Jesus that to me state the trinity is not true are:
God cannot be tempted
God is invisible
God cannot die
God cannot sin
God knows everything
Jesus was tempted
Jesus was seen
Jesus did die
Jesus could have sinned.
Jesus doesn't know everything.
To me John 17:20-21 perfectly describe the relationship between Jesus and God, which is one of mindset and will. That they both are striving to do the will of the Father, and Jesus prays for us to be one with them in the same manor. If the trinity is true, Jesus wants us to join the Trinity.
I believe Jesus perfectly manifested God as a man. He was made purely for this purpose. I do not believe he was God, simply that he manifested him.
Some major differences between God and Jesus that to me state the trinity is not true are:
God cannot be tempted
God is invisible
God cannot die
God cannot sin
God knows everything
Jesus was tempted
Jesus was seen
Jesus did die
Jesus could have sinned.
Jesus doesn't know everything.
To me John 17:20-21 perfectly describe the relationship between Jesus and God, which is one of mindset and will. That they both are striving to do the will of the Father, and Jesus prays for us to be one with them in the same manor. If the trinity is true, Jesus wants us to join the Trinity.
I believe Jesus perfectly manifested God as a man. He was made purely for this purpose. I do not believe he was God, simply that he manifested him.
S
The Trinity didn't originate anywhere, because it's God Himself. He has always been truine. It's important to know this because it reveals God in ways we didn't understand before. I don't believe we are defining Him in our own terms, rather He has defined Himself in ways we can understand, of course He is infinitely unfathomable.
I believe it's proper to understand and believe the Trinity since it's a revealing of God to man.
Jesus is God
Father is God
Holy Spirit is God
But they are separately individuals in one being. It was Jesus who walked on this earth, and the Father that sits in heaven. Now since the Son is sitting on the right hand of the Father in heaven, the Holy Spirit has been sent and given to those who believe in His name.
I believe it's proper to understand and believe the Trinity since it's a revealing of God to man.
Jesus is God
Father is God
Holy Spirit is God
But they are separately individuals in one being. It was Jesus who walked on this earth, and the Father that sits in heaven. Now since the Son is sitting on the right hand of the Father in heaven, the Holy Spirit has been sent and given to those who believe in His name.
S
I think you are mistaken. God has explained the Trinity in the bible. The Holy Spirit reveals this to those who believe in Him and trust in Him.
If you believe that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers, then why do you wait for Jesus to come back? That should be a hint that they are distinctive...different persons...in one Diety called God.
To believe in His second coming, is to believe in His truine state.
If you believe that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers, then why do you wait for Jesus to come back? That should be a hint that they are distinctive...different persons...in one Diety called God.
To believe in His second coming, is to believe in His truine state.