So what about the fourth commandment?

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This sounds like the temple of God.

- Definition:1. to consecrate, sanctify, prepare, dedicate, be hallowed, be holy, be sanctified, be separate a. (Qal) 1. to be set apart, be consecrated

Are you a temple of God?
whoa there speedy.
you jumped from God blessing the 7th day to a different topic.
don't run.
we are talking about days of the week and how we should view the 7th literal day of the literal week.
stay and discuss the Sabbath.
 
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Every one born of God is a temple of God.
How many of them do you suppose there be? If you are asking me I do not know.
we were discussing the Sabbath of God, not the temple.

you had to veer the conversation quickly. deception.
 

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in reading this morning, I noticed in Ezekiel 20, God calls them "My Sabbaths" six times.
why do people have a problem with His Sabbaths?
something strange going on.
Men evolve many arguments to evade the commandments of God
because the carnal mind is hostile to God, and is not subject to His law! (Romans 8:7).

When men reject the commandments of God, that they may hold to their traditions
(see Mark 7:6-9), they must devise arguments to justify their rebellion.


Jesus "magnified" God's law (Isaiah 42:21, KJV). He taught that Christians are not to murder,
and must not even harbor an attitude of hate (Matthew 5:21–24)
 
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Men evolve many arguments to evade the commandments of God
because the carnal mind is hostile to God, and is not subject to His law! (Romans 8:7).

When men reject the commandments of God, that they may hold to their traditions
(see Mark 7:6-9), they must devise arguments to justify their rebellion.


Jesus "magnified" God's law (Isaiah 42:21, KJV). He taught that Christians are not to murder,
and must not even harbor an attitude of hate (Matthew 5:21–24)
Do you believe that disobedience to any commandment of God is a rejection of that commandment?
 

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The Christian is dead to the Law SO THAT they could be joined to Another - Christ Himself.

Paul said that death reigned for those that didn't sin after the same manner as Adam because sin entered the world. The law is NOT for the righteous. It is for the unrighteous. We who are in Christ are made to be His righteousness.

Until we believers understand Christ's work on the cross and resurrection - we will still be trying to fulfill the law by our own flesh and self-efforts. In fact we are in Christ now and it is His life that saves us - NOT law keeping.

We don't meditate on the law of Moses to do what it says now in the New Covenant. We let the word of Christ richly well within us as Paul said in Col 3:16. Christ has fulfilled the whole law. The law is a mere shadow of the real substance which is Christ Himself.

It's time for Christians to view the law of Moses for it's purpose and to embrace the finished work of Christ so that we can finally begin to grow up in Him.
It might have been more helpful if you had said 'the Christian is dead to the law of Moses' ?

Just stating they are 'dead to the law' can be taken that Jesus was without law or lawless. We know that Jesus kept His Fathers Commandments which are also law.
People need to know which 'law' is being talked about...as there were many and not all abolished.

Paul talked about law...a lot, not really explaining which law he meant, thus causing confusion and misunderstanding people still struggle with today.
At least we are agreed that we are not under Moses' law !
 
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Do you believe that disobedience to any commandment of God is a rejection of that commandment?
I think disobedience would be called "breaking" the commandment.

Rejection of the commandment is called "law-less-ness".
 

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Do you believe that disobedience to any commandment of God is a rejection of that commandment?
Disobedience can happen 'in ignorance.....
but rejection is with 'known intent'.
 
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Disobedience can happen 'in ignorance.....
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]but rejection is with 'known intent'.
That would mean that most all the men in the bible rejected the commadment of God at one time or another.[/FONT]
 
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Jesus is within me. I carry Him everywhere I go.
This is very interesting !
But are you 'in Him and go everywhere HE goes ?
This is a question every Christian should ask him/herself !!!
WHO is having LEADERSHIP....WHO is carrying who ???
 
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How do you break a commandment without rejecting it?
A good example would be King David.
The incident with Bathsheba and her husband, whom he had killed.
David repented. He didn't reject or deny the commandments he broke, but he repented. real repentance.
 
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This is very interesting !
But are you 'in Him and go everywhere HE goes ?
This is a question every Christian should ask him/herself !!!
WHO is having LEADERSHIP....WHO is carrying who ???
Have you not read
John 20:23
Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
 
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Men evolve many arguments to evade the commandments of God
because the carnal mind is hostile to God, and is not subject to His law! (Romans 8:7).

When men reject the commandments of God, that they may hold to their traditions
(see Mark 7:6-9), they must devise arguments to justify their rebellion.


Jesus "magnified" God's law (Isaiah 42:21, KJV). He taught that Christians are not to murder,
and must not even harbor an attitude of hate (Matthew 5:21–24)
The reason Jesus magnified the Law was to show that no man can fulfill the Law but Him and that we all need a Savior. The purpose of the Law was to bring us to Christ. It has done that and now it's time to believe in Christ and what He has done. He has fulfilled the whole Law.

Paul who knew the law better then anyone had this to say about the purpose of the law.

The purpose of the law was :

1) To reveal our sinful state. Rom 3:20

2) To inflame sin Rom 7:8

3) To minister death in us Rom 7:10-11

4) To lead us to Christ Gal 3:24

The law is good, holy and spiritual but we are in the flesh. Jesus fulfilled all the law! When we read the law we should be seeing Jesus in it. Jesus did not save us so that we could go back to the law.

But the purpose of the law was not for righteousness or salvation at all, it was to manifest sin in our lives, so that the purpose of grace which is in Jesus is to manifest salvation. Grace does not set aside the law, but completely satisfied it.

People are free to do whatever they want in relation to the Law - it does not make one righteous nor is it for salvation.

If someone wants to observe a particular day or eat or not eat some kinds of foods..etc - then they are free to do so. These have no bearing on one's salvation or righteousness as all that is based on the finished work of Christ.

It's where people are saying "You must observe these things or do these things in the Law or you are not obeying God" - that's where the twisting comes in and it is a perversion of the gospel of the grace of Christ.