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EG,
Ah! I may be understanding something you said a little better after this post.
I THINK we may be saying the same thing about the Romans 6 baptism. It looks like we both are saying the person gets dunked in physical water. (but i realize you could be saying it is spiritual water...although I'm not sure how you'd describe that to another person.) And that the work that is accomplished is spiritual...because washing dirt off our physical body is not the purpose of physical water baptism.
Ah! I may be understanding something you said a little better after this post.
I THINK we may be saying the same thing about the Romans 6 baptism. It looks like we both are saying the person gets dunked in physical water. (but i realize you could be saying it is spiritual water...although I'm not sure how you'd describe that to another person.) And that the work that is accomplished is spiritual...because washing dirt off our physical body is not the purpose of physical water baptism.
You think we are dunked in physical water
I think we are immersed spiritually into the literal death and burial of Christ (no water spiritual or physical is involved)
Thats the problem I mentioned about the word and transliterarion.Sadly people see it an assume it always means water, That is not true in greek or roman times.
]So for me to state my view of Romans 6 baptism in bullet point format, it would be this:
A) the person gets dunked in physical water
B) but the work that is getting done is spiritual
C) linking us spiritually to Jesus' death
D) from that point on, we are no longer to walk in the fleshy/sinful ways of the old man.
E) because our old sins are left behind (a thing of the past)
F) because we are (after this event) dead to sin and sin is to remain dead to us. AKA...Sin has no right to us and we have no obligation to(wards) sin.
If your understanding is different, please let me know at which letter the difference begins. Feel free to simply list your view in ABC format if that's easiest. Thanks.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
A) the person gets dunked in physical water
B) but the work that is getting done is spiritual
C) linking us spiritually to Jesus' death
D) from that point on, we are no longer to walk in the fleshy/sinful ways of the old man.
E) because our old sins are left behind (a thing of the past)
F) because we are (after this event) dead to sin and sin is to remain dead to us. AKA...Sin has no right to us and we have no obligation to(wards) sin.
If your understanding is different, please let me know at which letter the difference begins. Feel free to simply list your view in ABC format if that's easiest. Thanks.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
We are placed into (baptized) the death and burial of Christ. We are baptized INTO him (his death) that just as he died. We died with him
No water is involved.
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