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Viligant_Warrior

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While I have him on ignore, I am concerned for any vulnerable brothers and sisters who are captivated by his ridiculous words appearing to be wisdom.
Amen, as am I, or I wouldn't resort to such direct affronts. But some of these trolls just won't abide sound rebuke, especially if they actually do not have the love of Christ in them. When they reject gentle admonition, there's really no other choice.

I'm glad you explained where he's coming from. Thank you for that, Bro Viligant_Warrior. :)
By the grace of God and the Holy Spirit, amen.

Notice how nowhere in his ramblings does he reflect the grace and liberty of Jesus Christ. In fact, I don't think he mentions Jesus at all. Kinda strange, huh? :confused:
Very strange indeed. It is one of the best clues to what he actually advocates -- strife, division, and anger.
 
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atwhatcost

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What supposed mistakes are in the KJV besides words that people assume were translated wrong. Do you know of any places in the KJV that contradicts itself or is blatantly wrong?
I don't know where Harry Potter contracts itself. Does that mean something to you too?

Seriously, I've got no problems with KJV (other than the ye's, thous, and thines that drive me up a wall, because I don't speak like that.) My problem comes when folks decide one particular bible version/translation is the one and only way to salvation. Not even close.

Given your user name, I guessed you are a KJVOnly believer. Not even close to being a Christian. Now that I see you doing nothing but batting for one ridiculous king's attempt to change God's mind (even though he failed), I've got big problems. When you rely on one particular version, you forget what's in it. You forget who is in control. THAT's my problem.

You can keep playing these games, (especially since what's-his-name is still going on and on), but you seem to be missing the point -- God, not a particular collector's-item book. You've reduced God to a collector's item. Big problem.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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What supposed mistakes are in the KJV besides words that people assume were translated wrong. Do you know of any places in the KJV that contradicts itself or is blatantly wrong?
Nope. It's a very good translation. Just not as good as the NASB, ESV, or Holman. And it does translate words and entire phrases wrong. That's been proven time and again, even if it isn't to your satisfaction or that of others who also think the KJV is "inspired."
 
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atwhatcost

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And I'm betting he can't tell a Greek verb from and adjective.
This is my worse nightmare, going to school and realizing there's a test, and I, not only, didn't study the homework, I never even heard the content before.

Seriously? I think most here can't tell the difference between a Greek verb and an adjective, unless the adjective is in English, and even then, just maybe? At least, I'd feel better knowing I'm not the only one who couldn't tell a Greek anything from something else, unless we're back to talking food. Baklava! Got to love it no matter who we are. lol

There's one thing to call someone on what they know/pretend to know. It's quite another thing to laugh at people who don't know. There's a whole bunch of us who don't know.
 

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This is my worse nightmare, going to school and realizing there's a test, and I, not only, didn't study the homework, I never even heard the content before.

Seriously? I think most here can't tell the difference between a Greek verb and an adjective, unless the adjective is in English, and even then, just maybe? At least, I'd feel better knowing I'm not the only one who couldn't tell a Greek anything from something else, unless we're back to talking food. Baklava! Got to love it no matter who we are. lol

There's one thing to call someone on what they know/pretend to know. It's quite another thing to laugh at people who don't know. There's a whole bunch of us who don't know.
Yea but he was claiming to have a PhD in this area. The man was an unmitigated fraud
 

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I don't get all this original language stuff, can't you guys tell the difference between the KJV and the newer translation when you read them? The KJV always points to Christ and his work while the newer translations put the focus on you and your works.
well it depends which newer translations you mean. The ones I use have the same emphasis on Christ and His work as the KJV. But the KJV contains 1 John 5.7. Up to the time of Erasmus not a single Greek manuscript had that verse in. It came from the Latin Vulgate.
 
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I don't know where Harry Potter contracts itself. Does that mean something to you too?

Seriously, I've got no problems with KJV (other than the ye's, thous, and thines that drive me up a wall, because I don't speak like that.) My problem comes when folks decide one particular bible version/translation is the one and only way to salvation. Not even close.

Given your user name, I guessed you are a KJVOnly believer. Not even close to being a Christian. Now that I see you doing nothing but batting for one ridiculous king's attempt to change God's mind (even though he failed), I've got big problems. When you rely on one particular version, you forget what's in it. You forget who is in control. THAT's my problem.

You can keep playing these games, (especially since what's-his-name is still going on and on), but you seem to be missing the point -- God, not a particular collector's-item book. You've reduced God to a collector's item. Big problem.
So where do you think the preserved word of God is today?
 
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Nope. It's a very good translation. Just not as good as the NASB, ESV, or Holman. And it does translate words and entire phrases wrong. That's been proven time and again, even if it isn't to your satisfaction or that of others who also think the KJV is "inspired."
There's no such thing as a very good translation, either it is perfectly translated by God or it's corrupted by man, there is no in between.
 

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2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:

When anyone calls any Holy Bible "scripture",
yet believes only the O.T. original autographs
were given by inspiration of God, it is dishonest.

They don't have the O.T. original autographs.



or if anyone believes only the original O.T. & N.T. autographs
were scripture given by inspiration of God,
it is also dishonest to call what they scripture.

They don't have the O.T. or N.T. original manuscripts.



What is the truth about this ?




The truth is...
The scripture is one way in which The Holy Spirit teaches the wisdom, knowledge, and understanding of The Word of God. With God teaching...He can cause us to understand and know Truth through many writings approved by God for such purposes as you mentioned in your post.

Jesus said...Good soil is those who hear and understand.
 
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well it depends which newer translations you mean. The ones I use have the same emphasis on Christ and His work as the KJV. But the KJV contains 1 John 5.7. Up to the time of Erasmus not a single Greek manuscript had that verse in. It came from the Latin Vulgate.
Does it really matter if 1 John 5:7 was in the original manuscript or not? The verse is true and it was already written in the Old Testament. In fact, the more I read, the more I realize the entire New Testament is hidden in the Old Testament. The New Testament just makes the things hidden in the Old Testament easier to see. The same with the KJV, the KJV brings more clarity to the original writings. If any man speak in an unknown tongue (Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic), let One interpret. The consistent language structure of the KJV allows us to see the New Testament in the Old Testament and vice versa.
 
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psychomom

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it's just so nice to know the banning of the OP has no particular effect on the length of the thread. :)
 
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it's just so nice to know the banning of the OP has no particular effect on the length of the thread. :)
You have to admit, banned or not, it is a good topic for discussion.