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p_rehbein

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Well now that my post is falsely represented, I'm sure certain here will be tickled to their toes to hit the report button.
The only place "leave the church" appears is in your false reporting of the article I posted. Leave the church is not stated nor implied in the article.


This thread is 3635 pages in length. You should have been surprised far earlier than opting to misrepresent one members post so as to think to have the whole thread shut down.
Speak your mind. That's the invite. For over 3 thousand pages that's been allowed. If it is closed due to false witness that would be wrong.
I'm reading this, and your comment above.............and, well.........

Finally, although Rabbi Singer devoted his life to defending the Jewish faith from missionaries who target Jews for conversion, it is clear that the majority of people he affects are non-Jewish Christians. I know so many evangelicals whose lives were dramatically transformed after they attended Rabbi Singer’s lectures, read his books, and watched hundreds of his inspiring YouTube videos online. In fact, I am one of those former Bible-thumping Christians who turned her life around largely as a result of Rabbi Singer’s teachings. I converted to Judaism two weeks ago. I am grateful to be home.

Please tell me how you ARE NOT promoting people leave the Christian Faith to become Jews?

Speaking ones mind is fine and dandy, BUT this is a Christian Site...........IF you want to promote Judaism, go to one of their Sites so you can feel "grateful to be home."
 

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I'm reading this, and your comment above.............and, well.........

Finally, although Rabbi Singer devoted his life to defending the Jewish faith from missionaries who target Jews for conversion, it is clear that the majority of people he affects are non-Jewish Christians. I know so many evangelicals whose lives were dramatically transformed after they attended Rabbi Singer’s lectures, read his books, and watched hundreds of his inspiring YouTube videos online. In fact, I am one of those former Bible-thumping Christians who turned her life around largely as a result of Rabbi Singer’s teachings. I converted to Judaism two weeks ago. I am grateful to be home.

Please tell me how you ARE NOT promoting people leave the Christian Faith to become Jews?

Speaking ones mind is fine and dandy, BUT this is a Christian Site...........IF you want to promote Judaism, go to one of their Sites so you can feel "grateful to be home."
This is a Christian site? No way! I thought it was an e-link to subscribe to free M&M's for life. DARN!
That's why my mailbox is empty.



I hold respect for my sisters and brothers on the site and therein know they are not blinded by hatred for Judaism first. Because they know our precious Lord was born into the Jewish family and faith so as to fulfill the prophecy concerning Messiah.

And this then insures should they read the linked article that is also copied, they shall then be capable of rationalizing, realizing, the information there concerning the Rabbi is a personal testimony of the Rabbi's work as well as an information portal concerning his credentials. All authored by Rita Janoe.
I am also quite certain that my sisters and brothers do not abrogate the scriptures so as to imagine Judaism has no link to our faith. They read their Bible and are thus more intelligent than to think we can extricate ourselves from Israel and be in the grace of the God that , as our Lord said, was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 15:24. And as such they are well aware that we Gentiles by the grace of God are thereby grafted in to the house of Israel. As is taught to us in Romans 11 using the metaphor of the olive tree.
Thereby insuring none of us who are one in Christ forget from whence the covenant sprang and appreciate for the rest of our mortal lives the sacrifice of Christ, and the grace of God that accomplished this.
There is no division. However, there is serious Soteriological error for someone to hold animus for the Jewish roots of the faith we hold in the Messiah prophesied in the passages in the Torah that refer to the end-of-days. Since the Messiah is not explicitly referred to in the Torah itself, that Messiah"the anointed one" was alluded to in the end of days, or eschatology, passages of Torah means he was known in ancient times.

This all mentioned as groundwork for what the article actually expresses and the purpose of it being shared in a thread where we are told for these 3000+ pages we are able to speak our mind. It was shared for educational purposes. Anyone that reads the article with a fair mind easily realizes it is a commentary about the Rabbi and a personal sharing of his teachings impact on the Quora author.
No one who is sealed in Christ would imagine going back to a faith that still awaits our precious Jesus is possible. HE has arrived, accomplished the prophesied Father's mission, and now is our advocate in Heaven.

I won't address your false witness as it continues, or perhaps it is just incapacity to comprehend the article's import, again.

When I state there was no such purpose as you falsely claim, that's it. My purpose for sharing has been made even more clear. If you wish to call me a liar, that's your fault.

We will not exchange again on this subject you misrepresented of me from the beginning. Fight elsewhere with the ghosts of your imagination. My reality in Christ is solid. As is my stated purpose for sharing the information, speaking my mind, when I thought the Rabbi video and supporting article were worthy of my sisters and brothers here to consider for themselves. See it your way. But your vision is nothing at all to do with the truth of me.
 

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A green M&M should appear as animated as intended. Not like above that somehow translated as a JPG. :giggle:
 

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This flutterby made the cat go cross eyed....

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He thinks it's funny....
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This kitty has a dark side....
 

p_rehbein

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This is a Christian site? No way! I thought it was an e-link to subscribe to free M&M's for life. DARN!
That's why my mailbox is empty.



I hold respect for my sisters and brothers on the site and therein know they are not blinded by hatred for Judaism first. Because they know our precious Lord was born into the Jewish family and faith so as to fulfill the prophecy concerning Messiah.

And this then insures should they read the linked article that is also copied, they shall then be capable of rationalizing, realizing, the information there concerning the Rabbi is a personal testimony of the Rabbi's work as well as an information portal concerning his credentials. All authored by Rita Janoe.
I am also quite certain that my sisters and brothers do not abrogate the scriptures so as to imagine Judaism has no link to our faith. They read their Bible and are thus more intelligent than to think we can extricate ourselves from Israel and be in the grace of the God that , as our Lord said, was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 15:24. And as such they are well aware that we Gentiles by the grace of God are thereby grafted in to the house of Israel. As is taught to us in Romans 11 using the metaphor of the olive tree.
Thereby insuring none of us who are one in Christ forget from whence the covenant sprang and appreciate for the rest of our mortal lives the sacrifice of Christ, and the grace of God that accomplished this.
There is no division. However, there is serious Soteriological error for someone to hold animus for the Jewish roots of the faith we hold in the Messiah prophesied in the passages in the Torah that refer to the end-of-days. Since the Messiah is not explicitly referred to in the Torah itself, that Messiah"the anointed one" was alluded to in the end of days, or eschatology, passages of Torah means he was known in ancient times.

This all mentioned as groundwork for what the article actually expresses and the purpose of it being shared in a thread where we are told for these 3000+ pages we are able to speak our mind. It was shared for educational purposes. Anyone that reads the article with a fair mind easily realizes it is a commentary about the Rabbi and a personal sharing of his teachings impact on the Quora author.
No one who is sealed in Christ would imagine going back to a faith that still awaits our precious Jesus is possible. HE has arrived, accomplished the prophesied Father's mission, and now is our advocate in Heaven.

I won't address your false witness as it continues, or perhaps it is just incapacity to comprehend the article's import, again.

When I state there was no such purpose as you falsely claim, that's it. My purpose for sharing has been made even more clear. If you wish to call me a liar, that's your fault.

We will not exchange again on this subject you misrepresented of me from the beginning. Fight elsewhere with the ghosts of your imagination. My reality in Christ is solid. As is my stated purpose for sharing the information, speaking my mind, when I thought the Rabbi video and supporting article were worthy of my sisters and brothers here to consider for themselves. See it your way. But your vision is nothing at all to do with the truth of me.

Talk about misrepresenting........

From the beginning....... I ASKED YOU if you were promoting people leaving Christianity to become a Jew.........All you had to do was say NO, just relating your experience........

The video is a whole nudder story...........THAT is what I really believe should have never been posted here.......as you state in the OP that this guy ACTIVELY seeks to lead people AWAY from Christianity.

Regarding the Jewish people, there are few Christians here who have defended them more than me..........BUT, IMO, that video was way outta line......... OH, and since you keep saying how this is a SPEAK YOUR MIND Thread...........does'nt THAT APPLY to ME ALSO?

............I know this for sure........... had that video been a Mormon, a Muslim, or Hindu, or Buddhist... this whole thing would have gone waaayyyy different.......

again, IMO, regardless of the religion of the person, group........anyone comes here to try and teach another Gospel than that of Jesus Christ.....should not be allowed to..........and, in the past, they have not been.......

Are the Jews kinda in a group of their own? Sure.............BUT they STILL deny Christ!

anyway........apparently, it isn't against the Rules after all.............so

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Talk about misrepresenting........
Yes! You are. Again!
You didn't ask me. You accused. Twice! "Please tell me how you ARE NOT promoting people leave the Christian Faith to become Jews? "
That's your second accusation. You asked me to tell you how I am not guilty of what you'd already judged as my promoting people leave the faith.

This was your first: Linked Here "Not sure, but posting Articles/Videos that promote campaigning for Christians TO LEAVE the church is against the rules........ya might wanna check with Admin ASAP on this Thread....... No difference in this and someone coming on here to promote ANY religion designed to make Christianity a false Faith........

Surprised this Thread is still here........ "


I responded to that so that readers wouldn't be dissuaded from reading my extensive corrections of your false witness, twice, and go with your observation wherein you appear to now try to play the victim when firmly rebuffed in your efforts to misrepresent me.
It isn't all good! As your image insert hopes to impart. False accusations that repeat themselves is slander!

YOU ARE WRONG!
Get over it. Grow from it.
 

p_rehbein

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Although Rabbi Singer is a well-known scholar, broadcaster, and author, he is best known for helping Jews in the Church return back to the Jewish faith. So many Jews in the church returned to the Jewish faith as a direct result of Rabbi Singer’s work.

From the many Muslims who call into his show, it is clear that the Muslim community holds him in high esteem. They frequently seek his incites, so that they can defend their own faith from aggressive Christian missionaries. Rabbi Singer appears to be well received in Jakarta, Indonesia where he serves as Rabbi.

Finally, although Rabbi Singer devoted his life to defending the Jewish faith from missionaries who target Jews for conversion, it is clear that the majority of people he affects are non-Jewish Christians. I know so many evangelicals whose lives were dramatically transformed after they attended Rabbi Singer’s lectures, read his books, and watched hundreds of his inspiring YouTube videos online. In fact, I am one of those former Bible-thumping Christians who turned her life around largely as a result of Rabbi Singer’s teachings. I converted to Judaism two weeks ago. I am grateful to be home.

Direct Quote from Comment #72,494


Not sure, but posting Articles/Videos that promote campaigning for Christians TO LEAVE the church is against the rules........ya might wanna check with Admin ASAP on this Thread....... No difference in this and someone coming on here to promote ANY religion designed to make Christianity a false Faith........

Surprised this Thread is still here........
(my comment 72,498) (and, yes, I said thread instead of Post......get over it) What you don't see is the above statement about this Rabbi guy "falsely represented" as stated here:

Well now that my post is falsely represented, I'm sure certain here will be tickled to their toes to hit the report button.
The only place "leave the church" appears is in your false reporting of the article I posted. Leave the church is not stated nor implied in the article. Comment #72,499


My comment #72,502 simply requotes this portion of her comment

Finally, although Rabbi Singer devoted his life to defending the Jewish faith from missionaries who target Jews for conversion, it is clear that the majority of people he affects are non-Jewish Christians. I know so many evangelicals whose lives were dramatically transformed after they attended Rabbi Singer’s lectures, read his books, and watched hundreds of his inspiring YouTube videos online. In fact, I am one of those former Bible-thumping Christians who turned her life around largely as a result of Rabbi Singer’s teachings. I converted to Judaism two weeks ago. I am grateful to be home.

Please tell me how you ARE NOT promoting people leave the Christian Faith to become Jews?

And then her confusing comment 72,505 where she claims to be "one in Christ?"

What do Jews believe?

(see link)

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KIbMcsxNdbo48AThJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByOHZyb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1540895917/RO=10/RU=http://www.jewfaq.org/beliefs.htm/RK=2/RS=KM2IkBA_S3G06Aj97AiR1IsLZkY-

Now, it may just be me, but the last time I checked with Jewish friends of mine.........they DO NOT recognize Jesus Christ as the Messiah, and are STILL waiting on His appearance. Yes, they worship and pray to God, but Christ IS NOT part of their religious ceremonial practices.........UNLESS things have really changed in the last several days.

To be honest, this person seems trapped between a Faith and a religion...........and, also appears to be confusing the teachings of the two........I dunno. What I do know is that the Rabbi in the video certainly denounces the Apostle Paul and denies Christ as Lord and Savior.....

Who is this Rabbi?

(excerpt from his 2 Part Book)

The first volume of Let's Get Biblical! is the core of Singer’s work. In it, he presents the arguments that Christian missionaries use to “prove” that the Hebrew Bible speaks about Jesus as the messiah. Then he eviscerates them, one by one.

In Volume 2, Singer answers questions that have been posed to him over the years. Some are from Jews who want to know how to answer the claims of a Christian friend or co-worker. A surprising number of questions are from Christians who challenge Singer’s conclusions.

One of Singer’s central claims is that, “Christendom – beginning in the earliest epistles of the New Testament – deliberately altered the Jewish Scriptures in order to make these sacred Hebrew texts appear Christological.” According to Singer, “The Church quite deliberately tampered with the words of the Jewish Scriptures in order to bolster their most startling claim: The Old Testament clearly foretold that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah. With this goal in mind, missionaries manipulated, misquoted, mistranslated, and even fabricated verses in Tanach in order to make Jesus’ life fit traditional Jewish messianic parameters and to make traditional Jewish messianic parameters fit the life of Jesus.”

This startling claim is backed up with reams of evidence. In Let's Get Biblical!, Singer gives example after example, in great detail, of how Christian missionaries use incorrect translations of Hebrew words, overt omissions, verses quoted completely out of context, Rabbinic statements that are simply made up and other textual sleights of hand to make it appear that the Hebrew Bible supports Christian doctrine.

Although Singer’s original intention was to educate Jews about how to recognize the falsehoods of Christian missionaries, his work has unwittingly touched the lives of many Christians who, faced with this information, are forced to rethink some of their assumptions about their faith. Singer often refers to the massive theological challenges a correct reading of the Hebrew Bible poses to Christians. He explains that, “What has made Christian believers so vulnerable to Bible tampering is that almost none of them can read or understand the Hebrew Bible in its original language.”


http://jewishvaluescenter.org/jvoblog/the-jews-and-jesus2

NUTSHELL?

Our entire Bible is a lie, and we are all too stupid to understand the original Greek and Hebrew Texts.....

Matthew 7:15) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

1 Peter 3:15) But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Jude 1:3) Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4) For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

I truly hope the Holy Spirit awakens this person to the "bewitching" she is enduring.

I also wonder why more believers are not willing to defend/contend for the Faith when it is so obviously denounced?

I dunno........... praise God that Christ did not concern Himself with hurting folks feelings when He "contended for the Faith."
 

p_rehbein

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Ok.............she can have the last shot............

let us get back to the INTENT of this Thread of Friendly Fellowship............and THAT WAS NOT to discuss/argue theological ideologies............was it?

Dunno.............

anyhoo.............

I be taking off a couple of days.........have some SERIOUS WORK that needs doing....... I got word this evening that there are some mischievous bream and shell crackers down at Ditto that are stealing folks worms right offa their hooks! Well, I gotta put a stop to that sort of behavior.......... sooooooo

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On our way back from our Michigan trip last year we stopped at a place and bought some of this and it wasn't bad. We also got a peach and apple moonshine jelly.. It's all gone now but it has also been a year since we made the trip... It was fun stopping in the road side stand that had this and much more. Wish we had more time to spend there also they gave me some boiled peanuts we spent quite a bit of money... It was a fun and interesting place.
 

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On our way back from our Michigan trip last year we stopped at a place and bought some of this and it wasn't bad. We also got a peach and apple moonshine jelly.. It's all gone now but it has also been a year since we made the trip... It was fun stopping in the road side stand that had this and much more. Wish we had more time to spend there also they gave me some boiled peanuts we spent quite a bit of money... It was a fun and interesting place.
Can't imagine how that would taste with moonshine added in.
 

Lillywolf

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I dunno........... praise God that Christ did not concern Himself with hurting folks feelings when He "contended for the Faith."
Odd remark considering your predilection to do just that. I'd respond with the warning afforded your obsessive false witness and harassment of this female Christian, daughter of the most high God.
Proverbs 6:16There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:17...,a lying tongue,
18a heart that devises wicked schemes...
19a false witness who pours out lies,
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

You have my sympathies.