Spirit versus Soul

[Red33]

yes those too also these two with everyone telling you to "submit to the spirit" they do not mention this warning at all for they forget not all spirits are from God....

1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world

Revelation 16:12-14
New King James Version (NKJV)
12 Then the sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, so that the way of the kings from the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and[a] of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

We know this for sure in (2Tim 1:7)...

For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

That is good for starters and it says alot. When restoration is needed we see a spirit of meekness in (1Cor 4:21, Gal 6:1).

Then we have (1Jn 4:4-6)...

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

... and in (1Pt 3:4) we see that the hidden man of the heart is of a meek and quiet spirit, which in the sight of God is of great price. In (Philemon 25) we see the importance of having grace be with our spirit as well as the Lord Jesus Christ in (2Tim 4:22). We are also to be an example to other believers in spirit (1Tim 4:12) and that we should not be shaken or troubled in spirit concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (2Thes 2:2). We are also told to stand fast in one spirit, with one mind, striving together for the faith of the gospel (Phil 1:27).

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Breathe of life "and" man became a living soul are separate happenings. You can be in a vegatation state where your soul or your mind is not functioning but the body yet lives. Once your spirit goes, you are dead. You hear of nde where they come back. I've heard it said that the spirit is held within us with some kind of spiritual ambilical cord. It can leave the body without breaking the connection and can return but once that connection is broke there is no returning. Its a concept I haven't heard a lot about but its interesting none the less. We are made in gods image. He is father son and holy spirit. We are body soul and spirit. Three parts that make one being.

A three-"persons" God and three parts OF a person is NOT being in God's image.

 

[WordGaurdian]

Hi there, its been a while...

Your soul is that part of your being which includes your personality traits, your will, your decision making, the traits which you enherit from your parents, the essence of who you are, the gift to what you are called - being either an apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher, etc.

Your spirit is the spiritual body with which we can move an interact with the spiritual world with. However this in its essence was made dead at the fall of sin.
For this very reason we need to be SPIRITUALLY REBORN into the Kingdom of God.

So in essence we can AGAIN be in the image of God.

Jesus - The Physical Body
God the Father - the Soul
the Holy Spirit - the Spirit

 

[Red33]

A three-"persons" God and three parts OF a person is NOT being in God's image.

Yes it is and please have a pleasant trip back into your hiding place that you have been dwelling. I think that you have communicated more than what is sufficient upon this subject and I do not know how much more we can take from such a contrived intellectual as yourself. I was kind to you and got my message across and hope you take my advice as good wisdom for yourself.

 

[enochson]

LET SEE CHRIST KILLED THE FELSH ON ADAM ON THE CROSS AND DID AWAY WITH IT. I WHAT WHAT THE TWO THINGS WHERE HE MADE PEACE BETWEEN WHERE?

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Yes it is and please have a pleasant trip back into your hiding place that you have been dwelling. I think that you have communicated more than what is sufficient upon this subject and I do not know how much more we can take from such a contrived intellectual as yourself. I was kind to you and got my message across and hope you take my advice as good wisdom for yourself.

Always trying to control everyone else and judge them in your bitterness and smug arrogance. It WAS just a passing comment. Now I think I'll camp here. You'll take whatever I post, just as I had to take your loveless and scathing paragraph above. Add me to your ignore list if you choose.

Tell me, Rot... At creation, which God-"person" spoke?

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Hi there, its been a while...

Your soul is that part of your being which includes your personality traits, your will, your decision making, the traits which you enherit from your parents, the essence of who you are, the gift to what you are called - being either an apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher, etc.

Your spirit is the spiritual body with which we can move an interact with the spiritual world with. However this in its essence was made dead at the fall of sin.
For this very reason we need to be SPIRITUALLY REBORN into the Kingdom of God.

So in essence we can AGAIN be in the image of God.

Jesus - The Physical Body
God the Father - the Soul
the Holy Spirit - the Spirit

The bolded is the closest thing to Godhead truth ever posted on this forum.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

I'll repeat...

Man as spirit-soul-body of ONE person is not equivalent to God as THREE "persons". To be in God's imagine, either man is THREE persons or God is Spirit-Soul-Body.

Hint... Man is not three persons.

 

[Red33]

Always trying to control everyone else and judge them in your bitterness and smug arrogance. It WAS just a passing comment. Now I think I'll camp here. You'll take whatever I post, just as I had to take your loveless and scathing paragraph above. Add me to your ignore list if you choose.

Tell me, Rot... At creation, which God-"person" spoke?

What good would it do to put you on anyone's ignore list, you just keep rambling on until you think you have made your point and then you do it some more. Quite impressive really. Seeing how you are here, I'm sure you will let it rip with all that contrived intellectualism saturated with human goodness. Isn't it a good thing to have someone like me in your life that keeps pricking you when you show up, that thorn in the side kind of thing?

 

[Red33]

Always trying to control everyone else and judge them in your bitterness and smug arrogance. It WAS just a passing comment. Now I think I'll camp here. You'll take whatever I post, just as I had to take your loveless and scathing paragraph above. Add me to your ignore list if you choose.

Tell me, Rot... At creation, which God-"person" spoke?

It was uncreated life engaged in theantric action.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

What good would it do to put you on anyone's ignore list, you just keep rambling on until you think you have made your point and then you do it some more. Quite impressive really. Seeing how you are here, I'm sure you will let it rip with all that contrived intellectualism saturated with human goodness. Isn't it a good thing to have someone like me in your life that keeps pricking you when you show up, that thorn in the side kind of thing?

You don't affect me one way or the other, though equating yourself to the thorn in the flesh is a study in irony. You're just like all the rest of the indoctrinated hoard with an opinionated pious agenda.

You won't put me on your ignore list because of your hatred. You're trapped by it you see. You can't judge my heart. If I'm a brother you must love me. If I were lost, you'd have to be loving and merciful. You're wrong either way and show the fruit of whom you serve.

It's not too late for you to repent. Unto salvation if necessary.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

It was uncreated life engaged in theantric action.

Do tell. And which God-"person" spoke?

(Your evasive sarcasm may mean you actually see the impossibility of Trinity.)

 

[Avinu]

H5315
נפשׁ
nephesh
neh'-fesh
From H5314; properly a breathing creature, that is, animal or (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental): - any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, X dead (-ly), desire, X [dis-] contented, X fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart (-y), (hath, X jeopardy of) life (X in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortality, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-) self, them (your) -selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (X she) will, X would have it.


H7307
רוּח
rûach
roo'-akh
From H7306; wind; by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension a region of the sky; by resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions): - air, anger, blast, breath, X cool, courage, mind, X quarter, X side, spirit ([-ual]), tempest, X vain, ([whirl-]) wind (-y).


Here is the hebrew words for you, hope this helps some.

 

[Red33]

You don't affect me one way or the other, though equating yourself to the thorn in the flesh is a study in irony. You're just like all the rest of the indoctrinated hoard with an opinionated pious agenda.

You won't put me on your ignore list because of your hatred. You're trapped by it you see. You can't judge my heart. If I'm a brother you must love me. If I were lost, you'd have to be loving and merciful. You're wrong either way and show the fruit of whom you serve.

It's not too late for you to repent. Unto salvation if necessary.

If anyone wants to know what you have expressed on this site they can look it up and determine what kind of man you are or even if you are brother in Christ. You are what you are and there are many on this site with the same attitude of the heart that you have expressed many times over. People can judge for themselves as to who you are and what that is. I am nobody that you should have an issue with and if you loved the word, you would have peace and nothing would offend you. God reveals our heart and in revealing our heart we don't want to humble ourselves and agree with God. That becomes the issue, not others and God gives grace to the humble and resists the proud, who are those that do not agree with God.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

If anyone wants to know what you have expressed on this site they can look it up and determine what kind of man you are or even if you are brother in Christ. You are what you are and there are many on this site with the same attitude of the heart that you have expressed many times over. People can judge for themselves as to who you are and what that is. I am nobody that you should have an issue with and if you loved the word, you would have peace and nothing would offend you. God reveals our heart and in revealing our heart we don't want to humble ourselves and agree with God. That becomes the issue, not others and God gives grace to the humble and resists the proud, who are those that do not agree with God.

I didn't even address you until you came at me in your usual venomous way. Neither you nor I nor anyone can judge the heart of another according to salvation. You might do well to heed your own words rather than exhibit a double standard of self-righteousness.

Have a great week, Rot.

 

[WordGaurdian]

LET SEE CHRIST KILLED THE FELSH ON ADAM ON THE CROSS AND DID AWAY WITH IT. I WHAT WHAT THE TWO THINGS WHERE HE MADE PEACE BETWEEN WHERE?

On the contrary Adam flesh was already dead. With the fall of sin. For that very reason it was necessary for Christ to lay down His Living flesh. Just like Adam "copied" in the sleep his life-flesh towards Eve. In like manner Christ "copied" His life-flesh for us. Hence the reason why we are called "the Bride of Christ". And just like Adam's side was opened for Eve, just so Christ' side was pierced for us.

When Adam sinned, God warned him that he would die. Everybody thought of course this didn't happened until only very much later. However God spoke of a death that most of us don't understand. For to some which we think is dead he speaks of them as sleeping. So obviously they are not dead.

The body of Christ therefore presents the water that is required...
The blood is for the Soul... for this very reason Moses made blood sacrifices to restore the soul as much as possible whenever someone sinned. Because when you sin, you hurt your own soul. However the complete restoration and of the Soul through the blood of Christ we are now again in the possession of a living soul and not a soul doomed.
The spirit of man died as well, and for this very reason, man is required to be baptised(reborn spiritually) with the spirit.


1Jn 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Now on earth three events agree as one to the witness are are representations of us being chilren of God.
We are children of God if we complete these three and only then will we be allowed into the Kingdom of God and to acquire the gifts inside the Kingdom of God to minister to the people of earth, so they to may see the light and be lifted from the curse of death.

So Christ made peace between God and man by adopting us into His family. Hence the reason why it is said we inherit from off the Father.