Steven Anderson is wrong - Sodomites can still be saved.

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Dino246

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Faith comes by the hearing of the word of God. That will include any faithful and accurate translation that is based on the King James Bible text. Or at least the underlying Hebrew and Greet Texts of the King James Bible. The modern translations such as the NIV, ESV, NLT, Mess, CEV, etc. are not faithful translations. they are not accurate, but rather, they are corrupt.
Do you claim that those who come to Christ through hearing the NIV or other modern translations are not genuine Christians?
 

Dino246

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No, I am not, Dino. Repentance does precede faith. But it is not Repentance of Sins. Repentance of Sins only comes after Salvation.
Yes, you are adding to the word of God. Your claim to the contrary is contradicted by your corrupt paraphrase of the word of God.
 

justbyfaith

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Someone who is not born again is enabled to turn from his sins when the Holy Spirit draws him / her.

See 2 Corinthians 6:1-2.
 
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I think it's funny that Anderson is simultaneously against sodomites while also being strongly in favor of the King James bible.
 

Nehemiah6

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I think it's funny that Anderson is simultaneously against sodomites while also being strongly in favor of the King James bible.
Are we supposed to conclude that there is some connection? Or have you simply swallowed the propaganda against the KJB? As to Anderson, I have no idea who this person is, and it does not make any difference in any event. The false teachers are all coming out of the woodwork today.
 

Nehemiah6

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Do you claim that those who come to Christ through hearing the NIV or other modern translations are not genuine Christians?
That would be totally wrong. In spite of all the errors and omissions in the modern versions, they cannot fully suppress the Gospel.
 
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Are we supposed to conclude that there is some connection? Or have you simply swallowed the propaganda against the KJB? As to Anderson, I have no idea who this person is, and it does not make any difference in any event. The false teachers are all coming out of the woodwork today.
I don't know whether King James was a sodomite. I wasn't there. But I do know that a whole lot of people think he was. And they aren't all a bunch of leftwing, masked up, anti-christians either. So at the least, I think there is some doubt. So that's why I think it's kind of funny: why not use another translation then??
 

Dino246

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That would be totally wrong. In spite of all the errors and omissions in the modern versions, they cannot fully suppress the Gospel.
And in spite of all the errors and additions in the KJV, it cannot fully suppress the Gospel. ;)
 
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king Jam
Faith comes by the hearing of the word of God. That will include any faithful and accurate translation that is based on the King James Bible text. Or at least the underlying Hebrew and Greet Texts of the King James Bible. The modern translations such as the NIV, ESV, NLT, Mess, CEV, etc. are not faithful translations. they are not accurate, but rather, they are corrupt.
Malaproop
the mistaken use of a word in place of a similar-sounding one, often with unintentionally amusing effect, as in, for example, “dance a flamingo ” (instead of flamenco ).King James has a lot of intentional Malaproops,,,and not because it's archic: simon who is also called niger [The swallow knows the time of the coming]Tell they pay the uttermost farting you shall nurse at the breast of kings. can't remember how that ones worded they chose shittim instead of acacia tree
 
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Again i say the bible is perfect in it's imperfections.Because we are made perfect in weakness.
 

Nehemiah6

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why not use another translation then??
Because the KJB has absolutely nothing to do with how James I lived (or did not). According to the translators (who were NOT liars by any means) he was a righteous man as noted in "The Translators to the Reader". And since they were his contemporaries and feared God more than the king, you had better listen to what they have to say rather than rumor-mongerers.

His Majesty's Constancy, Notwithstanding Calumniation, for the Survey of the English Translations
This, and more to this purpose, His Majesty that now reigneth (and long, and long may he reign, and his offspring forever, Himself and children, and children's children always) knew full well, according to the singular wisdom given unto him by God, and the rare learning and experience that he hath attained unto; namely that whosoever attempteth anything for the public (especially if it pertain to Religion, and to the opening and clearing of the word of God) the same setteth himself upon a stage to be gloated upon by every evil eye, yea, he casteth himself headlong upon pikes, to be gored by every sharp tongue.

For he that medleth with men's Religion in any part, medleth with their custom, nay, with their freehold; and though they find no content in that which they have, yet they cannot abide to hear of altering. Notwithstanding his Royal heart was not daunted or discouraged for this or that colour, but stood resolute, as a statue immovable, and an anvil not easy to be beaten into plates, as one saith; he knew who had chosen him to be a Soldier, or rather a Captain, and being assured that the course which he intended made much for the glory of God, and the building up of his Church, he would not suffer it to be broken off for whatsoever speeches or practices.

It doth certainly belong unto Kings, yea, it doth specially belong unto them, to have care of Religion, yea, it doth specially belong unto them, to have care of Religion, yea, to know it aright, yea, to profess it zealously, yea to promote it to the uttermost of their power. This is their glory before all nations which mean well, and this will bring unto them a far most excellent weight of glory in the day of the Lord Jesus. For the Scripture saith not in vain, Them that honor me, I will honor, [1 Sam 2:30] neither was it a vain word that Eusebius delivered long ago, that piety towards God was the weapon, and the only weapon, that both preserved Constantine's person, and avenged him of his enemies.
 

Dino246

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king Jam

Malaproop
the mistaken use of a word in place of a similar-sounding one, often with unintentionally amusing effect, as in, for example, “dance a flamingo ” (instead of flamenco ).King James has a lot of intentional Malaproops,,,and not because it's archic: simon who is also called niger [The swallow knows the time of the coming]Tell they pay the uttermost farting you shall nurse at the breast of kings. can't remember how that ones worded they chose shittim instead of acacia tree
If you're going to the trouble of looking up a definition, you could go to the trouble of spelling the word correctly. It's malapropism, not "malaproop".
 

Dino246

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Again i say the bible is perfect in it's imperfections.Because we are made perfect in weakness.
I already refuted this folly. Why do you hold on to errors after being clearly corrected?
 
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If you're going to the trouble of looking up a definition, you could go to the trouble of spelling the word correctly. It's malapropism, not "malaproop".
ism is another form of the word like run and running...hum let me look
If you're going to the trouble of looking up a definition, you could go to the trouble of spelling the word correctly. It's malapropism, not "malaproop".
Malaprop not Malaproop and Malaproism end spelling has mostly to do with the state of time right?:unsure::cautious::confused:
 
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What part of speech is ism?
Using –ism at the end of a word also suggests the word is related to a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as an authority by a group or school of thought. The suffix –ism is always added to the end of a noun and a word with a –ism suffix is also always a noun.
I think Malaprop is just the um!? The simplest form of the word.
 

justbyfaith

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I don't know whether King James was a sodomite. I wasn't there. But I do know that a whole lot of people think he was. And they aren't all a bunch of leftwing, masked up, anti-christians either. So at the least, I think there is some doubt. So that's why I think it's kind of funny: why not use another translation then??
The kjv was not translated by King James.
 

justbyfaith

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And in spite of all the errors and additions in the KJV, it cannot fully suppress the Gospel. ;)
That's just plain stupid.

The kjv doesn't have any additions; otherwise the plagues of the book of Revelation would have been added to its translators (Revelation 22:18-19).
 
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The kjv was not translated by King James.
Fair enough. If some "scientific study" about the effects of smoking was conducted, would you more or less likely to trust it if you found out it was commissioned by a cigarette manufacturer?

Why not just use a different translation?
 

justbyfaith

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Fair enough. If some "scientific study" about the effects of smoking was conducted, would you more or less likely to trust it if you found out it was commissioned by a cigarette manufacturer?

Why not just use a different translation?
It's interesting that you think that King James would have been able to have an influence on the Bible's understanding of homosexuality when, according to you, he was a homosexual; and yet the kjv explicitly preaches against homosexuality.
 
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It's interesting that you think that King James would have been able to have an influence on the Bible's understanding of homosexuality when, according to you, he was a homosexual; and yet the kjv explicitly preaches against homosexuality.
Never said I necessarily do think that. What I am saying is that the possibility exists. True, the kjv teaches against sodomy. But maybe it could have taught against it a little stronger if people weren't trying to please the bossman?

Again...why won't anyone answer my question? Why not use a different translation?