Tattoos, sin or not sin?

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Tattoos

  • Sin

    Votes: 10 28.6%
  • Not sin

    Votes: 9 25.7%
  • NOT SIN BUT UNWISE

    Votes: 14 40.0%
  • IDK

    Votes: 2 5.7%

  • Total voters
    35
  • Poll closed .
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passinthru

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#41
I know a guy who has a very large tat of a guy on his chest riding a bike straight toward you if you were facing him. On his back is a a picture of Jesus with his arms extended around the guys sides and his hands on the bars of the bike. Shame shame
 

Nautilus

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#42
1 Corinthians 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?"

You can quit waiting. But I'll wait while you find a new or old testament scripture that endorses defiling God's temple.

You don't mind if I get up and make a sandwich, I hope. I'll be waiting a day or two.
pretty sure people have hung artwork in actual temples, and I personally dont find art to be defiling, so nice try
 
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The_highwayman

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#43
highwayman Thanks,,,,good post. I am sure some of us have been down the same roads. YES "it is about understanding how the grace and love of Jesus works in you and that you manifest that love to the world to destroy the works of the enemy...."

I could tell of so many examples of why what you wrote above rings so true from my experinces. All have been called to the ministry of reconciliation.

"The lady that said she was called to prison ministry had no idea who the girl was and came up to me and my wife and asked why we were sitting with her.....I told her who the girl was, and then based on her reaction sternly told her not to give me back the paperwork for a first time visit to prison. "

I have had people who wanted to go to certain events that I had to ask them to just stay home and pray. The devices of the enemy we are not to be ignorant of. Good intentions are great but if the intent of the heart is to say "look what we did
" it takes on a less than desirable purpose in God's eyes and can in fact hinder the Spirit of God from working the way He desired. We should never be moved by what we see but pray for wisdom and heed the calling by faith.
I trust that the girl who felt she 'had been called to a prison ministry' wil grow and be obedient to whatever the Lord has for her.
The girl that felt she was called to prison ministry came to full age about a year ago, and in fact became very good friends with the girl we sat next to and both are working in full time ministries that God has called them to.
 

nogard

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#44
What do you think?
Well, I suppose what the tattoo would be of is an important question. Did you or someone you know have something in mind, or was this just a general question out of curiosity?
 
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phil112

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#45
pretty sure people have hung artwork in actual temples, and I personally dont find art to be defiling, so nice try
Again, what you think is irrelevant to God's instructions for us. He never did, and never will, come to you to clear it with you first. Marking and permanently marring is defacing and/or defiling. You want to justify it to yourself, go ahead. Apparently what God asks of you matters not either, since you twist scripture to accommodate your own little sin.
 
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Kerry

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#46
Ever seen an old guy or gal with tattoos, it's an awful sight.
 
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Kerry

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#47
In the OT tattoos were something that the wicked done, those that worshipped Idols, I. E. demons. I don't see why that would change in the A.D.
 
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didymos

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#48
Thatwould be a good point if there werent scripture against homosexuality in thenew testament as well. Can you find a NT verse on tattoos? I'll wait.
Your body is your temple, a tempel can do without graffiti.

pretty sure people have hungartwork in actual temples, and I personally dont find art to be defiling, sonice try
Graffiti ISN't art, unless the architect intended it to be there in the first place.
Your Architect clearly didn’t. :p



 

mailmandan

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#49
I can't name one person that I knew in High School who had a tattoo. Back then, in the early 80's, it seemed like the only people who had tattoos were people in the military, bikers and convicts. Now it seems likes a lot of people are getting them.
 
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The_highwayman

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#50
In the OT tattoos were something that the wicked done, those that worshipped Idols, I. E. demons. I don't see why that would change in the A.D.
Actually 90% of the OT law was designed to keep them medically safe and keep them sanitary, this included marks in the body found in Leviticus 18. Gentiles were never under the law and Gentile Christians were never part of the Mosaic Covenant.

While I personally do not have any tattoo's, they are not a source of self righteousness for me. Righteousness is not personal performance to the law, it is a position with the Father and know many that have righteousness that have tattoos.

This whole OP is foolish, because it looks at the surface and not the heart.
 
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The_highwayman

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#51
Again, what you think is irrelevant to God's instructions for us. He never did, and never will, come to you to clear it with you first. Marking and permanently marring is defacing and/or defiling. You want to justify it to yourself, go ahead. Apparently what God asks of you matters not either, since you twist scripture to accommodate your own little sin.
Phil, do you also put away your wife and daughter outside of the house for 7 days when they get their periods?

IF not,then why are making this instruction irrelevant that God gave you concerning women and their periods.

Oh that's right, this part of the instructions is not relevant for you or the women in your family today, because Tampax made it all better. Do you see how ridiculous some of you are now?

James 2.10 says if you break one of the laws you break them all.

Better be putting Mrs. Phil and your daughters out in the yard for 7 days bub or God shall surely smite you.

It is people like you that cause people to stop going to church.
 
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phil112

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#52
Phil, do you also put away your wife and daughter outside of the house for 7 days when they get their periods?

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Don't be a smart aleck. It isn't making you appear very intelligent. I gave new testament scripture. Christ drove the money changers out for defiling the temple. The new testament ushered in a spiritual version of the old. The literal temple that was a building is now our body. God never said it was okay to start defiling His temple now that Christ has come.

If you people want to wear tattoos, go ahead. But you can stop making some kind of a public proclamation about how you're serving God and it is okay scripturally, because you aren't, and it isn't.
 
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#53
Among the 'homosexuality is evil' threads, the 'tattoos are sinful' threads and the 'Islam is unduly mysogynistic' threads there is a common set of criterion a person should address.

1. If a person is to assert an instruction in a particular book of the bible is relevant and should be upheld and followed, then they should uphold all intructions within said book, on matter of principle; for if one instruction within a book of instructions is not valid, the whole book is therefore not valid.

2. Which book does said instruction come from?

3. Do you, as a believer of that particular instruction, also follow all other instructions in that book? If not, then you should re-examine yourself in that light.

So, let's answer hose questions for tattoos.

Now, the instruction against tattoos comes from Leviticus (19:28 to be precise) and commands for people 'do not mark your bodies with tattoos'. If this instruction is valid, then all other of Leviticus' instructions must be valid, otherwise which do you uphold and which do you not?

Other instructions within Leviticus include the instruction that a woman must be killed if she wears fabric of two different materials, that men who sleep with men must be stoned to death, that daughters can be sold into slavery, that any person who touches the flesh of a deceased pig is unclean, and that fortunetellers should be put to death, among many others.

Do you consider those instructions as commands to be upheld? If not, then you have no reason to consider tattoos sinful,and you might as well tear Levitius out of your bible.
Great questions....I hope that your post is not ignored and people think about it and respond.
It is interesting to note that the sacrifices of animals in Leviticus are a model for the sacrifice of Jesus.
 
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#54
maybe it depends on the reason of getting the tattoo, IDK. Seems like a lot of people do it today because a lot of other people are doing it. Kinda like keeping up with the jones. i have a couple tattoos, and if i had the choice to do it over i think i would pass. Remember the Word says be ye separate from the world, and i don't think tattoo parlors are in the New Heaven, and New Earth, but thats my honest opinion.
If God didn't want people to get tattoos in Leviticus why would he think God accepts tattooing now?
Do you think God changed his mind?
God may feel insulted if you try and improve upon his work by tattooing your body? It's a possibility.
 
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kennethcadwell

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#55
If God didn't want people to get tattoos in Leviticus why would he think God accepts tattooing now?
Do you think God changed his mind?
God may feel insulted if you try and improve upon his work by tattooing your body? It's a possibility.

Because the written ordinances of the mosaic laws do not apply to believers under the new covenant, and I am with others who say depends on what the tattoo is and why it was done.

Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
 
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Karraster

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#56
What do you think?
It doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks, we do not define sin. Sin is transgression of our Creator's instructions and He calls it sin.
 
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Kerry

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#57
My question is why, why get a tattoo and mar your body with the works of an another man? Did you know that now it's a billion dollar industry in tattoo removal. Yeah that butterfly looks good at the top of your jeans but how will it look when your sixty.
 
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Sophia

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#58
Most tattoos are done out of pride, rebellion, or out of self glory/or out of human commitment.
If the tattoo is done with right motive, and as a reminder and mark of your calling in Christ, then it is not a sin; but a Jesus face on your shoulder is likely still an idol rather than done in right motive.

When is a tattoo CLEARLY a sin? When it is done in remembrance of the dead (which is one of the most common and culturally acceptable tattoo types) or done out of earthly cultural pride (tribal tats, family crests, national symbols), and when it is clearly rebellious (skulls, naked women, serpents/dragons).

This is not to judge others, but to guide ourselves individually. We are not under the Letter of the Law, but under the Spirit of the Law. If we are intentionally causing others to stumble by our actions, we are not living in the Spirit.

Summary: tattoos are not inherently sinful, and yet they are also not inherently productive. Let's be wise, and seek the spiritual mark, not physical marks.
 
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passinthru

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#59
I can't name one person that I knew in High School who had a tattoo. Back then, in the early 80's, it seemed like the only people who had tattoos were people in the military, bikers and convicts. Now it seems likes a lot of people are getting them.
I never got a tat. Pretty amazing . Joined the merchant marines when I was 16..... been in the biker world forever....never went to prison except to minister but probably could have ended up there except for the grace of God and mama's prayers.....Still could get one someday , don't have anything against them really. However I feel they are not wise for young people as Some have got them and it did affect their life as far as Employment positions go and so forth which is sad.
 
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The_highwayman

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#60
It doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks, we do not define sin. Sin is transgression of our Creator's instructions and He calls it sin.
I wont hijack the OP, but your understanding of what SIN is why you fail in this discussion. SIN is not a list of do's and do not's. SIN is a choice for the believer and a nature of the spirit in the lost.

You state
we do not define sin.
but you define SIN by stating
Sin is transgression of our Creator's instructions and He calls it sin.
You need to look at Gen 3, 1 John 2 and James 1 to understand what SIN is. SIN is a choice not something we are helpless and defenseless against.