Hey Gang.......Much has been proposed about the 144,000 in the book of Revelation which contains past, present and future context....even the False Jehovah's Non-Witnessses jumped on board with their take, as well as numerous other groups.....my view is listed below...this came up in another thread and I wanted to put it out for all to examine. I am not here to argue these point....After a very diligent look into the facts listed about the 144,000 I have come to the following conclusion.
First note the facts about the 144,000
Locations identified with
144,000 standing on MOUNT ZION with their FATHER'S seal on their foreheads
They are SINGING a SONG BEFORE the THRONE, BEFORE the 4 beasts and the elders
THEY follow the LAMB where ever he GOES
They are without fault before the throne
They have been redeemed
FROM the EARTH
FROM among MEN
They are a special unique group
ONLY they can learn the song they sing
They are faultless boys who have not had sex
They have not been defiled with women
They are virgins
They have no guile/deceit in their mouths
They are called the same word Christ is called
Being the FIRSTFRUITS unto GOD and the LAMB
What group in history can fit this group....the boys murdered by HEROD in the place of Christ
a. They are a unique group
b. They were boys
c. They were virgins
d. They have never been defiled with women
e. They have told no lies or used deceit or guile
f. They were alive <--redeemed from among men
g. They were dead <--redeemed from the earth (ground)
h. They are located before the throne, before the 4 beasts, before the elders and the follow the lamb where ever he goes (all in heaven)
I. Identified as the FIRSTFRUITS unto GOD and the LAMB
My view....they are the train of the Lord and represent the wave offering given by JESUS along with himself before the throne.
144,000 perfect, unblemished Jewish martyred males in the place of JESUS <---the cream of the "wheat" crop if there ever was one.
First note the facts about the 144,000
Locations identified with
144,000 standing on MOUNT ZION with their FATHER'S seal on their foreheads
They are SINGING a SONG BEFORE the THRONE, BEFORE the 4 beasts and the elders
THEY follow the LAMB where ever he GOES
They are without fault before the throne
They have been redeemed
FROM the EARTH
FROM among MEN
They are a special unique group
ONLY they can learn the song they sing
They are faultless boys who have not had sex
They have not been defiled with women
They are virgins
They have no guile/deceit in their mouths
They are called the same word Christ is called
Being the FIRSTFRUITS unto GOD and the LAMB
What group in history can fit this group....the boys murdered by HEROD in the place of Christ
a. They are a unique group
b. They were boys
c. They were virgins
d. They have never been defiled with women
e. They have told no lies or used deceit or guile
f. They were alive <--redeemed from among men
g. They were dead <--redeemed from the earth (ground)
h. They are located before the throne, before the 4 beasts, before the elders and the follow the lamb where ever he goes (all in heaven)
I. Identified as the FIRSTFRUITS unto GOD and the LAMB
My view....they are the train of the Lord and represent the wave offering given by JESUS along with himself before the throne.
144,000 perfect, unblemished Jewish martyred males in the place of JESUS <---the cream of the "wheat" crop if there ever was one.
Let me begin with, I like how you are using reason to deduct your hypothesis. But I do have some concerning questions here. According to biblical science and people who study geneaology, at the time of Noah more than 7 billion people were on the planet during the flood, and it has been thought that by the time Jesus arrived the Jews were almost 3 million strong. If we take 50% of the Jews as having children then (according to the rate of population growth), that is close 1.5 million babies. If the 144,000 come from this group, that means the Jews have baby boys 1 out of every 8 births. Today's Jews is around 60/40% more boys born. If we just went by logic and math alone, it's hard to believe there was only 144,000 boys at age of 2 and under being killed by Herod. Mathematically alone, with birth rate traditionally once accounted for, one would believe there would have been around 1 million plus boys killed during that time.
But, like I wrote in the beginning of my first paragraph, I am loving how you are using reasoning to deduct your hypothesis!