The Adamic Sin Nature
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Hilarious! True believers are described as those "who walk after the Spirit" but you're so busy making sheep into goats you make them as those who walk after the flesh only in order to support your error. "Walk not after the flesh" means to be lost and unconverted, not a believer who is carnal." LOL! Wow! 
Hilarious! True believers are described as those "who walk after the Spirit" but you're so busy making sheep into goats you make them as those who walk after the flesh only in order to support your error. "Walk not after the flesh" means to be lost and unconverted, not a believer who is carnal." LOL! Wow!
Good afternoon to you!
First I would like to say, there is no "probation"....All are guilty...
Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
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Yes, for "every born again believer"
I believe the verse means, "How can anyone condemn you when there is NO condemnation in Christ Yeshua, you have been justified..."
G2631 κατάκριμα katakrima (ka-ta'-kriy-ma) n.
an adverse sentence (the verdict).
[from G2632]
KJV: condemnation
Root(s): G2632
No?
God Bless...
First I would like to say, there is no "probation"....All are guilty...
Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
----
Yes, for "every born again believer"
I believe the verse means, "How can anyone condemn you when there is NO condemnation in Christ Yeshua, you have been justified..."
G2631 κατάκριμα katakrima (ka-ta'-kriy-ma) n.
an adverse sentence (the verdict).
[from G2632]
KJV: condemnation
Root(s): G2632
No?
God Bless...
Hello Again,
We have to go back and see who the audience was when the Apostle Paul was addressing, in context of Romans 8:13
Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
The Apostle Paul call them brethren:
G80 ἀδελφός adelphos (a-d̮el-fos') n.
1. a brother.
2. (of faith) a brother in our Lord, Jesus.
{literally or figuratively; near or remote; much like G1}
[from G1 (as a connective particle) and delphus “the womb”]
KJV: brother
They were not of the same matrix, they are in the same Lord, Yeshua Hamashia.
God Bless..
We have to go back and see who the audience was when the Apostle Paul was addressing, in context of Romans 8:13
Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
The Apostle Paul call them brethren:
G80 ἀδελφός adelphos (a-d̮el-fos') n.
1. a brother.
2. (of faith) a brother in our Lord, Jesus.
{literally or figuratively; near or remote; much like G1}
[from G1 (as a connective particle) and delphus “the womb”]
KJV: brother
They were not of the same matrix, they are in the same Lord, Yeshua Hamashia.
God Bless..
Paul is just reminding believers of their obligation to not give in to their flesh. That would result in death.
Rom 8:12-15: "Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
DevotiontoBible, what are you arguing about now. You seem to find a fighting point everywhere in this forum. Are you sure you are led by the right spirit?
Rom 8:12-15: "Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
DevotiontoBible, what are you arguing about now. You seem to find a fighting point everywhere in this forum. Are you sure you are led by the right spirit?
Paul is just reminding believers of their obligation to not give in to their flesh. That would result in death.
Rom 8:12-15: "Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
DevotiontoBible, what are you arguing about now. You seem to find a fighting point everywhere in this forum. Are you sure you are led by the right spirit?
Rom 8:12-15: "Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
DevotiontoBible, what are you arguing about now. You seem to find a fighting point everywhere in this forum. Are you sure you are led by the right spirit?
You mean this verse?:
For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God.
Romans 8:14 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/rom.8.14.NLT
That implies that a born again person can choose not follow the Holy Spirit in putting to death the deeds of the sinful nature. What I just said is confirmed in Galatians. We can be born again and chose not to follow the Holy Spirit in our sanctification :
Since we are living by the Spirit, let us follow the Spirit’s leading in every part of our lives.
Galatians 5:25 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/gal.5.25.NLT
For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God.
Romans 8:14 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/rom.8.14.NLT
That implies that a born again person can choose not follow the Holy Spirit in putting to death the deeds of the sinful nature. What I just said is confirmed in Galatians. We can be born again and chose not to follow the Holy Spirit in our sanctification :
Since we are living by the Spirit, let us follow the Spirit’s leading in every part of our lives.
Galatians 5:25 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/gal.5.25.NLT
Born again Christians have a sinful nature still
Therefore, dear brothers and sisters, you have no obligation to do what your sinful nature urges you to do. For if you live by its dictates, you will die. But if through the power of the Spirit you put to death the deeds of your sinful nature, you will live.
Romans 8:12*-13 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/rom.8.12-13.NLT
Therefore, dear brothers and sisters, you have no obligation to do what your sinful nature urges you to do. For if you live by its dictates, you will die. But if through the power of the Spirit you put to death the deeds of your sinful nature, you will live.
Romans 8:12*-13 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/rom.8.12-13.NLT