The Antichrist
- Thread starter ComeLordJesus
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
One other item, God uses the old names of empires and countries because they change so much. If you study the old countries and where they were, then you can follow the Bible a little easier.
Blade
From what I read, He will be of Assyrian descent. Since Assyria is no longer with us, he could have family ties to any country I mentioned. (Micah 5:5)
How much family ties is unknown. We know a lot about him and what He will do upon becoming publicly known except WHO HE WILL BE?
Blade
Blade
From what I read, He will be of Assyrian descent. Since Assyria is no longer with us, he could have family ties to any country I mentioned. (Micah 5:5)
How much family ties is unknown. We know a lot about him and what He will do upon becoming publicly known except WHO HE WILL BE?
Blade
John used the term antichrist to refer to the gnostics who parted ways with the church because they were not of GOD due to their doctrine, which taught that Jesus and Christ were not one person. Jesus was a mere man whom the aeon (emanation) Christ used to awaken the elect to the gnosis (knowledge) that saves. Thus those who did not confess that Jesus is the Christ were antichrist.
Greetings Lazarus700,
Strong's Concordance
antichristos: antichrist, (one who opposes Christ)
Original Word: ἀντίχριστος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: antichristos
Phonetic Spelling: (an-tee'-khris-tos)
Short Definition: antichrist
Definition: antichrist, either one who puts himself in the place of, or the enemy (opponent) of the Messiah.
HELPS Word-studies
500 antíxristos (from 473 /antí, "opposite to, in place of" and 5547 /Xristós, "Christ") – properly, opposite to Christ; someone acting in place of (against) Christ; "Antichrist."
Strong's Concordance
antichristos: antichrist, (one who opposes Christ)
Original Word: ἀντίχριστος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: antichristos
Phonetic Spelling: (an-tee'-khris-tos)
Short Definition: antichrist
Definition: antichrist, either one who puts himself in the place of, or the enemy (opponent) of the Messiah.
HELPS Word-studies
500 antíxristos (from 473 /antí, "opposite to, in place of" and 5547 /Xristós, "Christ") – properly, opposite to Christ; someone acting in place of (against) Christ; "Antichrist."
To teach us how Him not seen desires to be heard....by faith( the unseen)
Again I would offer. No such gift of infallibility in respect to human teachers. We walk by faith, not by sight. There simply is, no what scripture calls a "daysman" (Job 9) as an infallible umpire. A man as that seen that stands as a mediator in between God and man.
This is as if our supernatural God, as in no nature as a beginning somehow was a flesh and blood man, as us.
Even Christ the anointing Holy Spirit of God, as the Son of man refused the title as an infallible umpire called "Master".
One is our Master in heaven not seen..... just as in the same way one is our Father in heaven not seen. (Mathew 23)
The counterfeiter, the father of lies, the god of this world who from the beginning in the garden of Eden turned things upside down by taking away the understanding of God not seen... creating the oral traditions of men as commandments of men (things seen).
Luke 18:18-20 King James Version (KJV) And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
God defines the words he uses to give us the unseen understanding. God not seen defines the eternal things by that which he makes, calling them good, perfect or complete to represent Him again not seen as good(.God )
I would offer it makes an interesting study when looking at the word good as to how the bible defines it
That which is seen is not the source of good but the product. The product never becomes the source of faith.To those who think it does it becomes the source of blasphemy attributing the work of Him not seen our eternal God to that seen mankind.
It is why I believe he warns us in 1 John 2 of those who insist we need a man to teach us as to the spirit of the antichrist . They went out from us because they were not with the us scriptures define as us . they assumed the power was from them and not freely given as a gift
2 Corinthians 4:7 King James Version (KJV)7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
I would think that power or authority is Light .God is light and not only that he can create light but it is what makes him distinct from his creation (the Sun and the moon, the temporal time keepers . that kind of light were not used until the fourth day
1 John 1:5This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
Interestingly if we would search the words "God and good" together and it appears 99 time in the King James seemingly to represent "God is light" as in him not seen there is no darkness, setting the foundation as the first work of His faith or labor of His love as our faithful Creator.
Genesis 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis 1:10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
And then he rested from his labor of Love or work of His faith.
Again God uses the word God to represent himself as not seen .We seek His approval of him not seen not teachers seen
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corinthians 4:18
Again I would offer. No such gift of infallibility in respect to human teachers. We walk by faith, not by sight. There simply is, no what scripture calls a "daysman" (Job 9) as an infallible umpire. A man as that seen that stands as a mediator in between God and man.
This is as if our supernatural God, as in no nature as a beginning somehow was a flesh and blood man, as us.
Even Christ the anointing Holy Spirit of God, as the Son of man refused the title as an infallible umpire called "Master".
One is our Master in heaven not seen..... just as in the same way one is our Father in heaven not seen. (Mathew 23)
The counterfeiter, the father of lies, the god of this world who from the beginning in the garden of Eden turned things upside down by taking away the understanding of God not seen... creating the oral traditions of men as commandments of men (things seen).
Luke 18:18-20 King James Version (KJV) And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
God defines the words he uses to give us the unseen understanding. God not seen defines the eternal things by that which he makes, calling them good, perfect or complete to represent Him again not seen as good(.God )
I would offer it makes an interesting study when looking at the word good as to how the bible defines it
That which is seen is not the source of good but the product. The product never becomes the source of faith.To those who think it does it becomes the source of blasphemy attributing the work of Him not seen our eternal God to that seen mankind.
It is why I believe he warns us in 1 John 2 of those who insist we need a man to teach us as to the spirit of the antichrist . They went out from us because they were not with the us scriptures define as us . they assumed the power was from them and not freely given as a gift
2 Corinthians 4:7 King James Version (KJV)7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
I would think that power or authority is Light .God is light and not only that he can create light but it is what makes him distinct from his creation (the Sun and the moon, the temporal time keepers . that kind of light were not used until the fourth day
1 John 1:5This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
Interestingly if we would search the words "God and good" together and it appears 99 time in the King James seemingly to represent "God is light" as in him not seen there is no darkness, setting the foundation as the first work of His faith or labor of His love as our faithful Creator.
Genesis 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis 1:10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
And then he rested from his labor of Love or work of His faith.
Again God uses the word God to represent himself as not seen .We seek His approval of him not seen not teachers seen
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corinthians 4:18
I would agree . Not the most popular but the example in Mathew 16 seems to work out when comparing scripture to scripture, or faith to faith .
A good example in action of that kind of work of attributing the work of one to another, usurping the true authority of the gospel is shown to us in Mathew 16 .Peter who denied Christ was forgiven of blasphemy, because it was in respect to the Son of man, seen .
Today that would be impossible .Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit not seen is not forgivable . It is by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Christ that we can believe God who works in his children to both will and do His good pleasure (Philipian 2:12) as a imputed righteousness .
Without it, (the Spirit of Christ) no man can please God
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mathew 16:22-24
Greetings Avillianna,
For sure those in Christ are always at war. For scripture states that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness in high places (Eph.6:12). But, why do you think that the antichrist is "Satan himself?"
Paul refers to the antichrist as "the man of lawlessness" (2 Thes.2:3-4) and John calls him the antichrist (I John 2:18) and as the beast in Revelation (Rev.13:5-8). The mark of the beast is also said to be the number of a man. Therefore, the antichrist is a literal man. When the beast, that fallen angel, comes up out of the Abyss at the sounding of the 5th trumpet, he will be the power behind the antichrist. Rev.13 states that "The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority." The dragon is figurative representing Satan and the beast, called Apollyon/abaddon, is another powerful fallen angel who comes up out of the Abyss at the 5th trumpet and will the power behind the antichrist.
For sure those in Christ are always at war. For scripture states that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness in high places (Eph.6:12). But, why do you think that the antichrist is "Satan himself?"
Paul refers to the antichrist as "the man of lawlessness" (2 Thes.2:3-4) and John calls him the antichrist (I John 2:18) and as the beast in Revelation (Rev.13:5-8). The mark of the beast is also said to be the number of a man. Therefore, the antichrist is a literal man. When the beast, that fallen angel, comes up out of the Abyss at the sounding of the 5th trumpet, he will be the power behind the antichrist. Rev.13 states that "The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority." The dragon is figurative representing Satan and the beast, called Apollyon/abaddon, is another powerful fallen angel who comes up out of the Abyss at the 5th trumpet and will the power behind the antichrist.
I would suggest a literal man.. literally influenced by the god of this world who has no form . as in many antichrists, under the influence of one, the father of lies. A liar from the beginning. he does not abide in the law of God but rather that of men as commandments of man call oral traditions. They work to make the word of God as the perfect (complete) law of God without effect.
garee, I stick with scripture and therefore was not guessing, but proclaiming a scriptural truth. The antichrist is a literal human being. The beast is that fallen angel who will come up out of the Abyss at the 5th trumpet and will be the power behind the antichrist.
"They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).
"The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come."
"The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction."
"One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed."
The seven heads are symbolic representing seven kings. The head that receives the fatal wound is the antichrist who is empowered by the angel that comes up out of the Abyss. He is that eighth king.
"They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).
"The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come."
"The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction."
"One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed."
The seven heads are symbolic representing seven kings. The head that receives the fatal wound is the antichrist who is empowered by the angel that comes up out of the Abyss. He is that eighth king.