The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

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brightfame52

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Every sinner Christ died for is saved , even from their mothers womb, from the penalty of death for their sins, because Christ for them has already paid their deserved and merited penalty, which is also remission of sins. See the wages of sin is death Rom 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

But Christ has for everyone He died, has totally abolished that wage of death[ 2 Tim 1:10], the only alternative for them now is eternal life through Christ their Lord.

Christ by His own Blood, obtained eternal redemption for everyone He died for Heb 9:12

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

The word redemption here is the greek word lytrōsis and means:


  1. a ransoming, redemption
  2. deliverance, esp. from the penalty of sin [which is death Rom 6:23]

    Now with this in mind, if anyone is teaching or believing that anyone Christ died for can be lost, they are teaching and believing a false gospel contrary to the redemptive and saving efficacy of the death of Christ !67
 

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The flesh and the Soul and the Spirit in the man has been restored and will inherit the earth.
This is basically my view of it, a jar is pulled out of the mud and after it is cleansed and set apart for specific use it is sealed (with the trademark) and then filled with the substance of which it is purposed (which is what it had been originally purposed for in the first place before all the jars fell in the mud (when they had been labeled and used for ill purpose by the robber then discarded for dead).
 

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All sinners Christ died for become believers because they are His Spiritual offspring. Isa 53:10

10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

This scripture is about the Lord Jesus Christ, and the phrase "when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin" Speaks of His Death, being made sin [ a sin offering 2 Cor 5:21] and the second phrase " he shall see his seed", speaks of his spiritual offspring as a result of his soul for them, being made an offering for sin.

Now Jesus speaks of this same blessed truth in Jn 12:24

24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

Christ here is the corn of wheat that will fall into the ground and die [speaking of his soul being made a offering for sin] and if he die, the result is [his dying] bringeth forth fruit, which equates to he shall see his seed. Now the word seed in Isa 53:10 is the word zera and means:

offspring, descendants, posterity, children and it also means : fruit

Now the word fruit is Jn 12:24 is the grk word karpos and means:

the fruit of one's loins, i.e. his progeny, his posterity

And Jn 12:24 gives a definite statement as to what will occur if the corn of wheat die, it bringeth forth or produce much fruit.

So a spiritual seed for Christ is promised as a result, effect of His dying !
 
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One of the grand purposes of Christs death, the giving of Himself for His Church which He Loved Eph 5:25-26

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
The word that is the conjunction hina and denotes :

that, in order that, so that, in order that (denoting the purpose or the result):

So His death for His Church [every member of it, His Body] was for the purposeful result of sanctifying it or them.

That word sanctify the verb hagiazō means:


  1. to render or acknowledge, or to be venerable or hallow
  2. to separate from profane things and dedicate to God
    1. consecrate things to God
    2. dedicate people to God
  3. to purify
    1. to cleanse externally
    2. to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin
    3. to purify internally by renewing of the soul
To set apart

This was done once and for all by His Death for them Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

The word sanctified here is in the perfect tense, having being once in the past not needing to be repeated. 68
 

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Another purpose found in Eph 5:25 as the result of Christs death for His Church is that it [every member] should be also cleansed. Lets read again:

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

Now the word cleanse here is the greek word katharizō:


  1. to free from defilement of sin and from faults
  2. to purify from wickedness
  3. to free from guilt of sin, to purify
  4. to consecrate by cleansing or purifying
  5. to consecrate, dedicate

    Its also the same word Paul uses in Titus 2:14


    14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


    The whole point being that Spiritual Blessings are communicated to every member of Christs

    Church, His Body whom He Loved and gave Himself for. Rom 8:32


    32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?