The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

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The redeemed of the Lord shall return ! 3


Isa 59:20

20 And the Redeemer[Jesus Christ] shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.

In other words, the blessed results and effects of the Redeemer coming, unto those He came to specifically Redeem, Israel Lk 1:68, the effects it shall render is that they shall turn from transgression ! If we dont Turn from Transgression [to include false religion] that is be converted, then Christ did not come to Redeem us, unless the Blessed effects of His Redemptive Blood failed the Purpose of God !

But God forbid that could happen, So the logical conclusion to the Glory of God is that all those who are never turned or converted had no part in Christ's Redemptive Death, For it is also written :

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

The Purpose of His Death or giving Himself for us, Namely His Church Eph 5:25 was to Redeem us from all Iniquity, which equates to the same thing as saying " To be turned from Transgression "

Christ's Redemptive Death is suppose to Liberate us from all lawlessness. Before That, we are holden by our sins Prov 5:22

His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the cords of his sins.

That word holden means to be seized, be held, retain !

They are held Paul says Rom 7:6

But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Remember God commanded Pharoah to Let His People Go so that they can serve Him ! Ex 8:1

And the Lord spake unto Moses, Go unto Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord, Let my people go, that they may serve me.

Thats what Christ's Death was Purposed to do, to accomplish, To Turn His People from Transgressions ! Acts 3:26

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus[The Redeemer], sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

This is the fulfillment of Isa 59:20 ! 36

 

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Isa 59:20

20 And the Redeemer[Jesus Christ] shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.

In other words, the blessed results and effects of the Redeemer coming, unto those He came to specifically Redeem, Israel Lk 1:68, the effects it shall render is that they shall turn from transgression !

Isaiah 59:20 states that them that turn from transgression ... the Redeemer shall come to them. The verse does not state that the Redeemer turns them from their transgression.

So the logical conclusion to the Glory of God is that all those who are never turned or converted

... the verb is active ... meaning that the person turns from transgression. The verb is not passive as you infer.

so actually, the "logical conclusion" is that again your futile attempt to align Scripture to your erroneous dogma has failed. You are to align your dogma to Scripture and where you are in error, let go of the error.


2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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Isaiah 59:20 states that them that turn from transgression ... the Redeemer shall come to them. The verse does not state that the Redeemer turns them from their transgression.





... the verb is active ... meaning that the person turns from transgression. The verb is not passive as you infer.

so actually, the "logical conclusion" is that again your futile attempt to align Scripture to your erroneous dogma has failed. You are to align your dogma to Scripture and where you are in error, let go of the error.


2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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More unbelief

 

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The redeemed of the Lord shall return ! 4

The Death of Christ in its Redemptive Power, its responsible for Blessing all those He died for in that He by it turns them from their iniquity ! Peter Highlights that fact in Preaching the Gospel here Acts 3:24-26

24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.​

Now look at Vs 26, what's the Blessing stated ?

Its a Turning them away from their iniquities ! Thats Conversion, or Repentance being effected !

In fact its the same thing Paul stated in Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

In fact, that's the Blessing of Abraham. Remember when God Promised Abraham Gen 12:3

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Well thats what God was promising, that which Peter Preached then Acts 3:24-26.

Notice something also, he calls his hearers the Children of the Prophets and of the Covenant, saying:

saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

This Promise little did Peter realize also belonged to the Gentiles, for Paul quotes the very same verse from Gen 12:3 and applies it to the Gentiles here Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

So that means that the Gentiles were also the Children of the Prophets and of the Covenant as stated in Acts 3:25 !


Folks the fact is, If Christ's death of Redemption does not turn all for whom He died away from their iniquities, it failed the Purpose of God, its Power was frustrated and thwarted,

For Notice Peter said:

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from[apo separation] his iniquities.

That applies to every one of the Children of the Prophets and of the Covenant, every single Person, that Jesus was given a Covenant for Isa 42:6

I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

Again, the Gentiles are part of that Covenant People ! 36

 

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The redeemed of the Lord shall return ! 5

This Blessing of being turned from our iniquities Acts 3:24-26

24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

It denotes something inward, as promised by the Covenant Jer 31:33

But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Its by giving them inwardly New Life by His Spirit, Note: The Turning away from our sins is Christ's Work of blessing us, and He alone should receive the Glory of it !

Its part of His Redeeming Death ! 37

 

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The Death of Christ in its Redemptive Power, its responsible for Blessing all those He died for

The Lord Jesus Christ died for all mankind ... all descendants of Adam:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Acts 3:24-26

24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.​

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25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.​

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26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.​

Now look at Vs 26, what's the Blessing stated ?

Its a Turning them away from their iniquities ! Thats Conversion, or Repentance being effected !

Because you rip verses from the context within which the Author of Scripture has placed them, you completely misrepresent what is stated.

Acts 3:

18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.


Verse 19 is "Conversion, or Repentance being effected !" ... not verse 26 as you claim.

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Prophet promised back in Leviticus 18:15-19 and Peter reminds them in Acts 3:22-23 that if one does not hear ... verb, active – which means it is the responsibility of the person to "hear/listen" ... he or she shall reap the consequence of his or her unbelief.

Verse 26 ... those who repent as stated in vs 19 ... those who "hear/listen" as stated in vss 22-23 ... the Lord Jesus Christ ... the Christ in you, the hope of glory (Col 1:27) ... works within the born again one to turn away every one of you from his iniquities ... because He gives us the victory over sin.

In fact its the same thing Paul stated in Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

... sigh ... why must you continuously rip verses from the context within which the Author of Scripture has placed them???

Titus 2:

11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


All men ... all descendants of Adam ... have had the grace of God that bringeth salvation made known to them. For those who believe, they receive the blessing ... for those who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, they receive the consequence of their unbelief.

In fact, that's the Blessing of Abraham. Remember when God Promised Abraham Gen 12:3

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Well thats what God was promising, that which Peter Preached then Acts 3:24-26.

In Acts 3:25, Peter quoted from Genesis 22:18

Genesis 22:

15 And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,

16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

Notice something also, he calls his hearers the Children of the Prophets and of the Covenant, saying:

saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

This Promise little did Peter realize also belonged to the Gentiles

Peter is speaking specifically to Jews in Acts 3 ...

Acts 3:12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?

continue reading to see to whom Peter is speaking:

vs 13 –The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers ... Isaac, and Jacob were the fathers of the Jews.

vs 17 – And now, brethren ... Jews

vs 22 – A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren ... Jews

vs 22 – Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers ... "our fathers" = Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob ... the fathers of the Jews.

If Peter had stated "our father" (singular) ... referring only to Abraham, then you would have a valid point because it is true that Abraham is the father of all who believe ... Jew and gentile alike.
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Paul quotes the very same verse from Gen 12:3 and applies it to the Gentiles here Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

In agreement that in Gal 3:8 Paul quoted from Genesis 12:3. However, not in agreement that in Acts 3:25 Peter quoted Genesis 12:3.

Here is what Peter stated:

Acts 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Here is what is written in Genesis 22:18:

Genesis 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.


Here is what Paul stated:

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Here is what is written in Genesis 12:3:

Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.


You are instructed to rightly divide the Word of Truth (2 Tim 2:15) ... do not conflate records in Scripture ... that is exactly what you are doing when you claim that Acts 3:25 is a direct quote from Gen 12:3 when Acts quotes from Gen 22:18.

So that means that the Gentiles were also the Children of the Prophets and of the Covenant as stated in Acts 3:25 !

... nope ... as shown, you have completely misinterpreted the record in Acts 3 in your futile attempt to align Scripture to your erroneous dogma.

Folks the fact is, If Christ's death of Redemption does not turn all for whom He died away from their iniquities, it failed the Purpose of God, its Power was frustrated and thwarted

The Lord Jesus Christ absolutely did not fail, and for you to claim that "it failed the Purpose of God, its Power was frustrated and thwarted", is an indication that you do not believe in Scripture as you completely misinterpret whole passages of Scripture due to your erroneous dogma.

Isa 42:6

I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

... another example of you ripping a verse from its context in your futile attempt to align Scripture to your erroneous dogma!!!

Isaiah 42:

1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.

3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.

4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.

5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

These verses all refer to the Servant ... the Lord Jesus Christ Himself ...

According to vs 6, the Lord Jesus Christ is the Covenant of the people (Jews) ... the Lord Jesus Christ is the Light of the gentiles.

Again, the Gentiles are part of that Covenant People !

replacement theology bunk ...


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This Blessing of being turned from our iniquities Acts 3:24-26

24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

As explained in Post 1766, Acts 3:26 refers to those who have already repented and who have been converted (born again) as shown in Acts 3:19.

Note: The Turning away from our sins is Christ's Work of blessing us, and He alone should receive the Glory of it !

As previously explained to you, the Lord Jesus Christ works within those shown in vs 19:

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord

And please note ... according to the Acts 3:19, sins are blotted out once a person repents and is converted ... not in eternity past as you claim.

In agreement that it is the Lord Jesus Christ Who turns us away from our iniquities as He works within the born again believer.

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.



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The Lord Jesus Christ died for all mankind ... all descendants of Adam:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.





Because you rip verses from the context within which the Author of Scripture has placed them, you completely misrepresent what is stated.

Acts 3:

18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.


Verse 19 is "Conversion, or Repentance being effected !" ... not verse 26 as you claim.

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Prophet promised back in Leviticus 18:15-19 and Peter reminds them in Acts 3:22-23 that if one does not hear ... verb, active – which means it is the responsibility of the person to "hear/listen" ... he or she shall reap the consequence of his or her unbelief.

Verse 26 ... those who repent as stated in vs 19 ... those who "hear/listen" as stated in vss 22-23 ... the Lord Jesus Christ ... the Christ in you, the hope of glory (Col 1:27) ... works within the born again one to turn away every one of you from his iniquities ... because He gives us the victory over sin.





... sigh ... why must you continuously rip verses from the context within which the Author of Scripture has placed them???

Titus 2:

11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


All men ... all descendants of Adam ... have had the grace of God that bringeth salvation made known to them. For those who believe, they receive the blessing ... for those who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, they receive the consequence of their unbelief.





In Acts 3:25, Peter quoted from Genesis 22:18

Genesis 22:

15 And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,

16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.





Peter is speaking specifically to Jews in Acts 3 ...

Acts 3:12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?

continue reading to see to whom Peter is speaking:

vs 13 –The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers ... Isaac, and Jacob were the fathers of the Jews.

vs 17 – And now, brethren ... Jews

vs 22 – A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren ... Jews

vs 22 – Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers ... "our fathers" = Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob ... the fathers of the Jews.

If Peter had stated "our father" (singular) ... referring only to Abraham, then you would have a valid point because it is true that Abraham is the father of all who believe ... Jew and gentile alike.
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More unbelief that the death of Christ redeems them He died for from all iniquity, which includes disobedience and unbelief.

 

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In agreement that in Gal 3:8 Paul quoted from Genesis 12:3. However, not in agreement that in Acts 3:25 Peter quoted Genesis 12:3.

Here is what Peter stated:

Acts 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Here is what is written in Genesis 22:18:

Genesis 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.


Here is what Paul stated:

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Here is what is written in Genesis 12:3:

Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.


You are instructed to rightly divide the Word of Truth (2 Tim 2:15) ... do not conflate records in Scripture ... that is exactly what you are doing when you claim that Acts 3:25 is a direct quote from Gen 12:3 when Acts quotes from Gen 22:18.





... nope ... as shown, you have completely misinterpreted the record in Acts 3 in your futile attempt to align Scripture to your erroneous dogma.





The Lord Jesus Christ absolutely did not fail, and for you to claim that "it failed the Purpose of God, its Power was frustrated and thwarted", is an indication that you do not believe in Scripture as you completely misinterpret whole passages of Scripture due to your erroneous dogma.





... another example of you ripping a verse from its context in your futile attempt to align Scripture to your erroneous dogma!!!

Isaiah 42:

1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.

3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.

4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.

5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

These verses all refer to the Servant ... the Lord Jesus Christ Himself ...

According to vs 6, the Lord Jesus Christ is the Covenant of the people (Jews) ... the Lord Jesus Christ is the Light of the gentiles.





replacement theology bunk ...


READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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More unbelief !

 

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As explained in Post 1766, Acts 3:26 refers to those who have already repented and who have been converted (born again) as shown in Acts 3:19.





As previously explained to you, the Lord Jesus Christ works within those shown in vs 19:

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord

And please note ... according to the Acts 3:19, sins are blotted out once a person repents and is converted ... not in eternity past as you claim.

In agreement that it is the Lord Jesus Christ Who turns us away from our iniquities as He works within the born again believer.

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.



READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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More unbelief proven.

 

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It accomplished remission of sins which is Justification !

Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

The word for eis is the prep meaning:
into, in, unto, to, upon, towards, for, among.

1519 eis (a preposition) – properly, into (unto) – literally, "motion into which" implying penetration ("unto," "union") to a particular purpose or result.

Christ's Blood shed resulted in remission of sin, not a offer of it, not that it made it available if you accept it, but it was for the purpose of and resulted in for the many it was shed remission of their sins.

That word remission aphesis:

a sending away, a letting go, a release, pardon, complete forgiveness.

859 áphesis (from 863 /aphíēmi, "send away, forgive" ) – properly, "something sent away"; i.e. remission ("forgiveness"), releasing someone from obligation or debt.

In other words, the debt of death they owed for the wages of sin Rom 6:23 they are no longer under that debt, their debt is completely forgiven by the blood of Christ, and that is their Justification before God,

Its the same as stated in Rom 3:24

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Eph 1:7

In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

That word redemption also equates to remission or forgiveness of sins, its the word apolutrósis:

release effected by payment of ransom; redemption, deliverance.

/apolýtrōsis ("redemption, re-purchase") emphasizes the distance ("safety-margin") that results between the rescued person, and what previously enslaved them. For the believer, the prefix (575 /apó) looks back to God's effective work of grace, purchasing them from the debt of sin and bringing them to their new status (being in Christ).

You see that aspect of redemption that has to do with "purchasing them from the debt of sin " ? Thats exactly the same truth of remission or forgiveness which states:

"releasing someone from obligation or debt: And so Rom 3:24 says that those Christ shed His Blood for Matt 26:28 were by that Justified freely, by His Grace, through the Redemption that is in Christ Jesus or as Eph 1:7 in His Blood !

This proves, whether its believed or not, but it proves that those whom Christ died for are by His Blood alone, they are Justified from all sin and due punishment for the same, for unto them, death as the wages of sin Per Rom 6:23 no longer exists, they have been released from that debt forever !

That word Justified in Rom 3:24 means:

I make righteous, defend the cause of, plead for the righteousness (innocence) of, acquit, justify; hence: I regard as righteous.

to clear (someone) of a charge or accusation, as in a court of law.

All this is accomplished for the Many He shed His Blood for, the Blood of the New Covenant Matt 26:28 ! Its a done deal yall !

 

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It accomplished remission of sins which is Justification !2

Its good to consider a very important aspect of this matter of remission of sins due to the shed blood of Christ, the Blood of the New Covenant / Testament Matt 26:28 !

We should understand that this Covenant forgiveness through His Blood is the same as here Jer 31:33-34

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Thats the same as the remission of sins in Matt 26:28 , its also the same testament or covenant in view !

The same here Mic 7:18-20

18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.

19 He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.

20 Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old.

This Vs 20 here is the same as that Promised Mercy of Lk 1:72,77

To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

And of course Christ's Blood is shed according to that Holy Covenant, for the remission of sins Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

See how all this fits together ? 37

 

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More unbelief that the death of Christ redeems them He died for

The Lord Jesus Christ died for all mankind ... all descendants of Adam:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

More unbelief proven.

... an unproven claim. You "prove" nothing ... other than you are now one step up from ad hominem.

On the other hand, what has been proved in Post 1768 is that your erroneous dogma is in error.

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The Lord Jesus Christ died for all mankind ... all descendants of Adam:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.





... an unproven claim. You "prove" nothing ... other than you are now one step up from ad hominem.

On the other hand, what has been proved in Post 1768 is that your erroneous dogma is in error.

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More unbelief displayed.

 

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Christ's Blood shed resulted in remission of sin, not a offer of it, not that it made it available if you accept it, but it was for the purpose of and resulted in for the many it was shed remission of their sins.

... READ YOUR BIBLE!!!

Acts 10:43 To him [the Lord Jesus Christ] give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

the word apolutrósis:

release effected by payment of ransom; redemption, deliverance.

/apolýtrōsis ("redemption, re-purchase") emphasizes the distance ("safety-margin") that results between the rescued person, and what previously enslaved them. For the believer, the prefix (575 /apó) looks back to God's effective work of grace, purchasing them from the debt of sin and bringing them to their new status (being in Christ).

look again at your source, brightfame52:

/apolýtrōsis ("redemption, re-purchase") emphasizes the distance ("safety-margin") that results between the rescued person, and what previously enslaved them. For the believer, the prefix (575 /apó) looks back to God's effective work of grace, purchasing them from the debt of sin and bringing them to their new status (being in Christ).​

Rom 3:24 says that those Christ shed His Blood for Matt 26:28 were by that Justified freely, by His Grace, through the Redemption that is in Christ Jesus or as Eph 1:7 in His Blood !

Let's just take a look at the context of the Romans 3:24 to see if your statement aligns with what is written in Scripture:

Romans 3:24-26 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

All this is accomplished for the Many He shed His Blood for

The Lord Jesus Christ shed His blood for all mankind ... all descendants of Adam:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
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It results in Living by Faith !

Rom 1:17

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Thats predestination, whenever scripture declares that something SHALL be done, it means that the predetermined counsel of God has decided it to happen.

In case you did not know, this Promise "The just shall live by faith." is a Promise that everyone Christ died for shall Live by Faith !

Now why is that True ? Here's why ! The Death of Christ, His Obedience unto Death Phil 2:8; Rom 5:19 that declares those He died for, the Many Righteous or Just Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

That word made in made righteous is the greek word kathistémi means:

I set down, bring down to a place; I set in order, appoint, make, constitute,

"to set down as, constitute (Latinsisto), equivalent to to declare, show to be":

They shall be declared Righteous or Just. That word Righteous in Rom 5:19 is the Greek word dikaios which means:

just; especially, just in the eyes of God; righteous; the elect (a Jewish idea).

Yes its the same exact word Just in Rom 1:17

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

So, the Many that the Obedience of Christ shall declare Righteous / Just, they shall Live by Faith !

The Many for whom Christ died for are His Sheep, so if one does not never believe on Him and begin the Life of Faith as Promised to those He died for, the answer is quite simple, its because they were not of His Sheep that He layed down His Life for Jn 10:15,26

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.


26 But ye believe not, because, for that reason ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you

Thats the only reason why they are not or wont be believers, its because they were not of His Sheep. If they were of the Sheep He layed down His Life for Vs 15 then they shall live by Faith, or we must conclude that Rom 1:17 is a lie where it says :

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. 37

 

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... READ YOUR BIBLE!!!

Acts 10:43 To him [the Lord Jesus Christ] give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.





look again at your source, brightfame52:

/apolýtrōsis ("redemption, re-purchase") emphasizes the distance ("safety-margin") that results between the rescued person, and what previously enslaved them. For the believer, the prefix (575 /apó) looks back to God's effective work of grace, purchasing them from the debt of sin and bringing them to their new status (being in Christ).​

Let's just take a look at the context of the Romans 3:24 to see if your statement aligns with what is written in Scripture:

Romans 3:24-26 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.





The Lord Jesus Christ shed His blood for all mankind ... all descendants of Adam:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
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More unbelief !

 

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Rom 1:17

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Thats predestination, whenever scripture declares that something SHALL be done, it means that the predetermined counsel of God has decided it to happen.

... the word "shall" does not appear in the text, brightfame52.

I have explained Romans 1:16-17 to you many times

Romans 1:

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it [the gospel of Christ] is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein [the gospel of Christ] is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

The gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation to all who believe ... the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith.

From faith to faith – not from works to faith or from faith to works ... from faith to faith. The life of the born again one begins in faith and the born again one is to continue to live by faith alone.

In case you did not know, this Promise "The just shall live by faith." is a Promise that everyone Christ died for shall Live by Faith !

The Lord Jesus Christ died for all mankind ... all descendants of Adam:

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

if one does not never believe on Him and begin the Life of Faith as Promised to those He died for, the answer is quite simple, its because they were not of His Sheep that He layed down His Life for

It is the denial of the greatness of the death of the Lord Jesus Christ to say that He did not die for every single person … all the iniquity of every body was laid on Him. It is finished. It was done, once and for all … doesn’t mean all are believers. You have to believe it. So redemption certainly only applies to believers. But to say that Jesus did not die for the whole world is a denial of Who He is and what the Bible says. He tasted death for every one … no one was left out.

we must conclude that Rom 1:17 is a lie where it says :

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Romans 1:17 is not a lie ...

the word "shall" does not appear in the text in Romans 1:17 ...

The phrase the just shall live by faith occurs four times in Scripture and the word "shall" does not appear in the text in any of the four (Habakuk 2:4; Romans 1:17; Galatians 3:11; and Hebrews 10:36).

The whole premise of what you submitted in Post 1777 has been proven false and your erroneous dogma has again failed.


READ YOUR BIBLE!!!

Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive
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More unbelief !

nope ... what you submitted in your Post 1772 has been proved Scrpturally unsound as shown in Post 1776.

Further proof that your dogma cannot withstand scrutiny under the light of Scripture is revealed by your inability to support your erroneous dogma.

You are to align your dogma to Scripture and where you are in error, let go of the error.


1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
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