THE BIBLE AND THE NUMBER 46

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graceNpeace

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James37 said:
multiply = 46 times in the Bible

It proves that 23 chromosomes from the mom and 23 from the dad combine to make 46. The Bible is scientifically up to date. I cannot understand why this would bother christians.
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That kind of coincidence is not proof.
This kind of silliness is what gives Christianity such a bad name.
 
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Magenta said:
Right, God is giving directions for building, which require measurements. Three chapters of God giving specific building measurements out of the whole 1,189 chapters of Scripture hardly amounts to the level of interest you rationalize giving numbers.
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Look, #’s do have meanings. But it’s straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel when you have to multiply, divide, add, subtract to arrive at that #.
 
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Magenta said:
Right, God is giving directions for building, which require measurements. Three chapters of God giving specific building measurements out of the whole 1,189 chapters of Scripture hardly amounts to the level of interest you rationalize giving numbers.
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But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. (Matthew 10:30)

 
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SovereignGrace said:
Look, #’s do have meanings. But it’s straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel when you have to multiply, divide, add, subtract to arrive at that #.
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I can accept that numbers have meaning, no problem :)

But making an idol out of them does seem to be a problem.

I wonder if anyone has ever been saved by studying numbers in the Bible.
 
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graceNpeace said:
That kind of coincidence is not proof.
This kind of silliness is what gives Christianity such a bad name.
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“conceived” 46 times in the Bible

Don't forget about this coincidence too!
 
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James37 said:
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. (Matthew 10:30)
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Do we all have the same number of hairs? I doubt it. Do you go around trying to count the hairs on people's heads? Arms? Legs? God knows everything down to the smallest detail. That should not surprise anyone who believes in God.
 
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Magenta said:
I can accept that numbers have meaning, no problem :)

But making an idol out of them does seem to be a problem.

I wonder if anyone has ever been saved by studying numbers in the Bible.
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How is pointing them out making an idol of them? What number meanings have you accepted?
 
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graceNpeace said:
That kind of coincidence is not proof.
This kind of silliness is what gives Christianity such a bad name.
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To enlarge on what I said:
You do realise that that the word "multiply" meaning reproduce is referenced to animals as well as human beings in the Bible.
You are aware, as a genetics whizzkid, that animals have an amazing variation of numbers of chromosomes in their DNA.
Not 46.
To try and suggest that 46 occurrences of "multiply" in this context proves anything about the number of chromosomes in the human genome is simply delusional...
 
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Magenta said:
Do we all have the same number of hairs? I doubt it. Do you go around trying to count the hairs on people's heads? Arms? Legs? God knows everything down to the smallest detail. That should not surprise anyone who believes in God.
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The point went over the hairs of your head! It is God who counts them and cares about those numbers!
 
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graceNpeace said:
To enlarge on what I said:
You do realise that that the word "multiply" meaning reproduce is referenced to animals as well as human beings in the Bible.
You are aware, as a genetics whizzkid, that animals have an amazing variation of numbers of chromosomes in their DNA.
Not 46.
To try and suggest that 46 occurrences of "multiply" in this context proves anything about the number of chromosomes in the human genome is simply delusional...
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Did an "animal" come in "the volume of the book" or did "the man" Jesus Christ! Don't forget about the other coincidence and that is the 37 genes in your mitochondrial DNA as well.
 
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James37 said:
The point went over the hairs of your head! It is God who counts them and cares about those numbers!
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Where does He tell us to care about numbers the way you do?
 
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graceNpeace

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James37 said:
Did an "animal" come in "the volume of the book" or did "the man" Jesus Christ! Don't forget about the other coincidence and that is the 37 genes in your mitochondrial DNA as well.
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I have no idea what point you are trying to make with this post.

The bottom line is that your theory is pure poppycock.
 
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James37 said:
How is pointing them out making an idol of them? What number meanings have you accepted?
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Where did I say pointing them out is making an idol of numbers?

If someone were to make a post and point out as a matter of interest pertinent to the info in the post that a certain number has a specific meaning, that is quite different from what you do. Your whole focus is numbers, numbers, numbers.

I did not say I have accepted any number meanings. I said I can
accept that numbers have meaning. Everything has meaning.
 
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graceNpeace said:
I have no idea what point you are trying to make with this post.

The bottom line is that your theory is pure poppycock.
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That the Bible is scientifically up to date. Did I post something that was false?
 
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Magenta said:
Where did I say pointing them out is making an idol of numbers?

If someone were to make a post and point out as a matter of interest pertinent to the info in the post that a certain number has a specific meaning, that is quite different from what you do. Your whole focus is numbers, numbers, numbers.

I did not say I have accepted any number meanings. I said I can
accept that numbers have meaning. Everything has meaning.
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Well if numbers have meaning then what is your issue?
 
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graceNpeace

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James37 said:
That the Bible is scientifically up to date. Did I post something that was false?
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Yes, and I have already explained just a small impossibility in your theory....

And, BTW, you are aware that chapter and verses were not part of the original manuscripts, are you not?
And so, any counting strategy based on occurrences in verses or chapters are meaningless since they are man-made additions many centuries after the fact.
 
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