THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

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Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.


Song 1:1 The song of songs, which is Solomon's.
Song 1:2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine.
Song 1:3 Because of the savour of thy good ointments thy name is as ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love thee.
Song 1:4 Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee.
Song 1:5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.
Song 1:6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.
Song 1:7 Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon: for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions?


Song 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
Song 1:16 Behold, thou art fair, my beloved, yea, pleasant: also our bed is green.
Song 1:17 The beams of our house are cedar, and our rafters of fir.
Song 2:1 I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.
Song 2:2 As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters.
Song 2:3 As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.
Song 2:4 He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner over me was love.
 
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Jesus bride is pure and white

Song 1:16 Behold, thou art fair, my beloved, yea, pleasant: also our bed is green.
Song 1:17 The beams of our house are cedar, and our rafters of fir.
Song 2:1 I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.
Song 2:2 As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters.
Song 2:3 As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.
Song 2:4 He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner over me was love.
Song 2:5 Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I am sick of love.
Song 2:6 His left hand is under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me.
Song 2:7 I charge you, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please.
Song 2:8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.
Song 2:9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, showing himself through the lattice.
Song 2:10 My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.
Song 2:11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;
Song 2:12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;
Song 2:13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.
Song 2:14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.
Song 2:15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes.
Song 2:16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies.
Song 2:17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains of Bether.
Song 3:1 By night on my bed I sought him whom my soul loveth: I sought him, but I found him not.
Song 3:2 I will rise now, and go about the city in the streets, and in the broad ways I will seek him whom my soul loveth: I sought him, but I found him not.
Song 3:3 The watchmen that go about the city found me: to whom I said, Saw ye him whom my soul loveth?
 
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Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice,
and give honour to him:
for the marriage of the Lamb is come,
and his wife hath made herself ready.


Rev 19:8 And to her was granted
that she should be arrayed in fine linen,
clean and white:
for the fine linen
is the righteousness of saints.


Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write,
Blessed are they which are called
unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.

And he saith unto me,
These are the true sayings of God.
 
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Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice,
and give honour to him:
for the marriage of the Lamb is come,
and his wife hath made herself ready.


Rev 19:8 And to her was granted
that she should be arrayed in fine linen,
clean and white:
for the fine linen
is the righteousness of saints.


Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write,
Blessed are they which are called
unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.

And he saith unto me,
These are the true sayings of God.
John also wrote....Revelation 21:9-10 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying , COME THITHER, I will shew thee THE BRIDE, the LAMB'S WIFE. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me THAT GREAT CITY, the HOLY JERUSALEM descending out of heaven from God.

Revelation 21:1-2 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God, out of heaven, prepared as A BRIDE adorned for HER HUSBAND.
 
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the reason you never heard of this is most churches dont believe in arraying themselves in righteousness (commandment keeping)
it goes against most religions

but righteousness is
what?
what is righteousness?

(Psa 119:40 KJV) Behold, I have longed after thy precepts: quicken me in thy righteousness.


(Psa 119:123 KJV) Mine eyes fail for thy salvation, and for the word of thy righteousness.


(Psa 119:142 KJV) Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.


(Psa 119:144 KJV) The righteousness of thy testimonies is everlasting: give me understanding, and I shall live.


(Psa 119:172 KJV) My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.


so the BRIDE is the part of the church that is keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus

Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne,
and before the four beasts, and the elders:
and no man could learn that song
but the hundred and forty and four thousand,
which were redeemed from the earth.


Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women (churches);
for they are virgins.
These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.
These were redeemed from among men,
being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.


Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile:
for they are without fault before the throne of God.

the 144,000 is the bride
12,000 from each tribe, new Jerusalem each gate a name of a tribe
Jewish
his wife

the vast multitude not of the 144,000 are guests.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman,
and went to make war with the remnant of her seed,
which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
 
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In revelation a woman is a church
to say his bride is not a church is incorrect
brides are women and women are churches

the Jerusalem is the palace where his bride lives.
 
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Just king james confusion again

look up the verse

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city,
new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride
adorned for her husband.

Original words reads like this

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city,
new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
MADE READY FOR HIS bride
adorned for her husband.
 
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King james had a committe to translate
committess always confuse everything

Saw very few committees that got ANYTHING right.
 
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either way it doesnt matter
Jesus doesnt marry a building

I never said he did and this is my stance...

You know, that is the conclusion that I have come to. The unification of God with his people in New Jerusalem. Thanks for the reply and the thoughts!

Notice the words (with) and (in) Jesus (God) unified with His people (the Church) in New Jerusalem.
 
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watcher2013 said:
The context began at the verse 1, encouraging us to run the race... to endure our struggle against sin...then he compare the old testament character to give emphasis on the disciplinary action of our God so we may not lose hope like the others...because we come differently...we come to the "list" that makes us stronger even stronger/determined...
The verse is not a definition of Heavenly Jerusalem as the church...
It's a contrast between coming to Mt. Sinai and coming to the church, which is described as coming
to Mt. Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. . .to the church of the firstborn. . .to God,
the judge of all men. . .to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood (of Jesus).
(Heb 12:18-24).


Hebrews is about belief vs. unbelief.

The context of the book is to Hebrew Christians who were considering returning to Judaism because of the rejection and persecution of their families and friends.

The letter is to explain the consequences of such an action, and to warn them against doing so.

Heb 12:22-24 is within the context of the fourth of four warnings
(4:1-13, 5:11-6:12, 10:19-39,
12:14-28) not to lapse back into Judaism.
Elin, there is no need to go all through that...Hebrews talks a lot of topic, including faith in Hebrews 11...Hebrews 12 is looking forward to the goal....enduring because of what lies ahead...
That's an "interesting" thing to say.

Context is always important, unless it is irrelevant to what is being said out of context
to mean something else.

In exhorting the Christian Hebrews not to apostasize, the writer reminds them that
Jesus was not an angel, he was more than an angel (1:1-14);
he was also a man like us (2:1-18);
but a man greater than even Moses (3:1-6).

He reminds them that God's own people failed to believe in the past (3:7-19)
and exhorts them not to fail to believe again (4:1-13);
but to believe in their new high priest (4:14-5:10).

He points out the consequences of unbelief, lapsing back into Judaism, falling away (5:11-6:12),
and why they should instead believe and hope; i.e.,
certainty of God's promise (6:13-7:10),
guarantee of a better covenant through a superior mediator to Moses (7:11-8:13),
faith in Christ is the same faith as in the OT (8:1-10:18),
and exhorts them to believe and obey their new high priest, not to lapse back (10:19-39).

He reminds them of the faith of the ancients, and to believe as they did (11:1-38).
He presents Jesus as the example of perseverance in faith and not falling back(12:1-13),
and again exhorts them not to apostasize and lapse back into Judaism (12:14-28).

And it is within that last warning not to apostasize that he presents what they have left (Mt. Sinai)
in contrast to what they have come (Mt. Zion, the new Jerusalem).


Now regarding Gal 4:25-26, that Heavenly Jerusalem is our spiritual mother is certainly true..., That is why even more, we cannot be the Bride for Sheis, the New Jerusalem ,the Bride
It's an analogy, not a doctrinal statement,

wherein the heavenly Jerusalem represents the free in Christ (the church of NT believers),
while the earthly Jerusalem represents the slaves to the law (OT believers, under the law).

The church is the the New Jerusalem (Heb 12:22; Rev 21:14), the Bride of the Lamb (Rev 21:2, 9-10).
 
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Elin said:
I said nothing about covenant.

Highway guy, you have provided no demonstration of your assertions, so your assertions are without merit.
The fact you said nothing about covenant, prove my point and are a complete demonstration of my assertions.
Should I remind you that the Old Covenant was broken by disobedience (Jer 11:10; Heb 7:8)

and has been replaced with a New Covenant (Heb 8:7-12),
made in the blood of Christ Jesus and inaugurated at his death (Lk 22:20),
making the Old (Sinaitic) Covenant obsolete (Heb 8:13).

The only covenant in effect is the New Covenant of grace made in the blood of Christ Jesus.

So what does the New Covenant in the blood of Jesus have to do with the kingdom
being taken away from the Jews and given to the Gentiles (Mt 21:43)?

You have provided no demonstration of your assertions, and they are, therefore, without merit.
 
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The enemy does not want you to realize the close relationship that the 144,000 have with Jesus.
It is intimate, he fills their whole mind and soul, they think only of him and they are one heart and one soul with hi,
this is one doctrine covered with lots of rubbish.

It is the key to the unity of Jesus with his bride
the book of the song of Solomon is in the bible to show the love and closeness of god with his bride, each person who has completly committed all of themselves to Jesus, and they will through eternity be by his side, and go where he will go, and follow the lamb wherever he leads.

the Bride is YOU personally if you accept the covenant
the new covenant
of deity filling your mind soul and heart through the power of the word of god with absolute faith

there is n doubt the bride has made herself ready
ready for the bridegroom.
Jesus marries his bride, all those who give themselves unreservedly

these people will never die, they will see Jesus come and they will be taken up like Enoch
and
they keep the Sabbath...

the Sabbath is the day of intimacy between Jesus and his bride.
 
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I never said he did and this is my stance...

You know, that is the conclusion that I have come to. The unification of God with his people in New Jerusalem. Thanks for the reply and the thoughts!

Notice the words (with) and (in) Jesus (God) unified with His people (the Church) in New Jerusalem.
Note that Scripture doesn't present the union of God with his people, in the New Jerusalem,

it presents God's union with his people, the New Jerusalem, in a marriage (Rev 21:2, 9, 19:7).

It's the same thing Paul reveals in Eph 5:31-32:

"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,
and the two will become one flesh.
This is a profound mystery--but I'm talking about Christ and the church."
 
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Note that Scripture doesn't present the union of God with his people, in the New Jerusalem,

it presents God's union with his people, the New Jerusalem, in a marriage (Rev 21:2, 9, 19:7).

It's the same thing Paul reveals in Eph 5:31-32:

"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,
and the two will become one flesh.
This is a profound mystery--but I'm talking about Christ and the church."

I am pretty sure that you and I covered this extensively....you will not change my mind Elin. As you and I are using different semantics to say the same thing....Thanks for your reply

The unification of God with his people in New Jerusalem---->me

it presents God's union with his people, the New Jerusalem, in a marriage---->you
 
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I am pretty sure that you and I covered this extensively....you will not change my mind Elin. As
you and I are using different semantics to say the same thing....Thanks for your reply

The unification of God with his people in New Jerusalem---->me

it presents God's union with his people, the New Jerusalem, in a marriage---->you
Thanks, guy,

But grammatically, we are not saying the same thing.
 
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Should I remind you that the Old Covenant was broken by disobedience (Jer 11:10; Heb 7:8)

and has been replaced with a New Covenant (Heb 8:7-12),
made in the blood of Christ Jesus and inaugurated at his death (Lk 22:20),
making the Old (Sinaitic) Covenant obsolete (Heb 8:13).

The only covenant in effect is the New Covenant of grace made in the blood of Christ Jesus.

So what does the New Covenant in the blood of Jesus have to do with the kingdom
being taken away from the Jews and given to the Gentiles (Mt 21:43)?

You have provided no demonstration of your assertions, and they are, therefore, without merit.
Which covenant did they break in Jer 11, Heb 8 and Heb 7, that the Jews lost and gave you the keys to the kingdom?
Which covenant replaced the Gentile over the Jew?
Edenic
Adamic
Noahic
Abrahmic
Mosiac
Land/Palestian
Davidic
New Covenant

Of all the 8 covenants, which are in the Bible,
which are conditional and unconditional?
which are eternal and everlasting?
Which are amplifications of each other and therefore not subject to conditional, but eternal and unconditional fulfillment?
Which are for the Gentile?
Which are for the Jew then and now?
Which are for all mankind?
 
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Elin said:
Should I remind you that the Old Covenant was broken by disobedience (Jer 11:10; Heb 7:8)

and has been replaced with a New Covenant (Heb 8:7-12),
made in the blood of Christ Jesus and inaugurated at his death (Lk 22:20),
making the Old (Sinaitic) Covenant obsolete (Heb 8:13).

The only covenant in effect is the New Covenant of grace made in the blood of Christ Jesus.

So what does the New Covenant in the blood of Jesus have to do with the kingdom being taken away from the Jews and given to the Gentiles (Mt 21:43)?

You have provided no demonstration of your assertions, and they are, therefore, without merit.
Which covenant did they break in Jer 11, Heb 8 and Heb 7, that the Jews lost and gave you the keys to the kingdom?
Is this a pop quiz?

From Exodus to Malachi God's people were under the Sinaitic Covenant,
which had been added to the Abrahamic Covenant of Ge 17.

Which covenant replaced the Gentile over the Jew?
In terms of the way you frame it, there is only one covenant after the Sinaitic Covenant was made obsolete (Heb 8:13),
and that is the New Covenant made in the blood of Christ and inaugurated at his death (Lk 22:20).

Edenic
Adamic
Noahic
Abrahmic
Mosiac
Land/Palestian
Davidic
New Covenant

Of all the 8 covenants, which are in the Bible,
The Bible knows only seven covenants, and the covenant with Phinehas (Nu 25:10-31) is one of them.

which are conditional and unconditional?
Of the seven, five are unconditional.

which are eternal and everlasting?
Only the unconditional ones are effectively eternal and everlasting.

They are all eternal and everlasting in the sense that God kept his part, he is not the one who broke it.

Which are amplifications of each other and therefore not subject to conditional, but eternal and unconditional fulfillment?
Only the unilateral covenants are not conditional, but eternal and unconditional.

Which are for the Gentile?
Specifically, or by voluntary inclusion with the Jews?

Which are for the Jew then and now?
Only one covenant for God's people themselves remains now; i.e., the New Covenant.

Which are for all mankind?
The Noahic Covenant is for all mankind, as well as for every living thing on earth.

So what does this have to do with Mt 21:43?
 
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