The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

[alchristfollower]

In the current time of August 3, 2018 AD in the Gregorian calendar, we are in Av 22, 5991 YB and it will be 5992 YB in Tishrei 10 of the current year in 2018 AD, based on the lunar months and days of Jewish Calendar that God intended man to base our months on, new moon to new moon, yet to avoid confusion with other calendars with their own counted years, this year is designated differently from the Anno Mundi designation of “AM”, since YB represents the actual true year since the beginning, where “YB” means “Year since the Beginning” in English, where approximately 5,992 years have passed since the beginning of creation, where this number can be calculated with precision counting the known genealogies from Adam to Terah, which is around 1,878 years, then the known timelines from Terah to King Jehoiakim, which is around 1,495 years to around 600 BC, which was also around the start of the Babylonian captivity, and then from King Jehoiakim to the anointing of Christ around 26 AD, which is around 627 years, which sums to exactly 4,000 years, and since almost 1,992 years have passed since the anointing of Christ in the Year 4000 YB, then in Tishrei 10 of this current year in 2018 AD will be the Year 5992 YB. It is believed and officially said we are in the Year 5778 AM, but this is not the true year since creation.

The full study can be found here http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2018/07/3...n-and-when-the-sabbath-and-jubilee-years-are/ .

 

[Noose]

Very complicated, it doesn't need to be this complicated. God has already given a timeline through the 70 weeks of Daniel- He knew very well about changes in calendar modes so that prophesy in Daniel has already taken into account these changes.

 

[alchristfollower]

Very complicated, it doesn't need to be this complicated. God has already given a timeline through the 70 weeks of Daniel- He knew very well about changes in calendar modes so that prophesy in Daniel has already taken into account these changes.

The 70 weeks prophecy only reaches to around the year 33 AD, where the entire 70 weeks prophecy ended with Christ confirming his covenant with many in that last week (there is no floating 70th week, that's arbitrary and absurd). So no, you cannot know the timeline of this heaven and earth with just the 70 weeks prophecy, you can only know the 490 years that this prophecy corresponds to.

 

[Noose]

The 70 weeks prophecy only reaches to around the year 33 AD, where the entire 70 weeks prophecy ended with Christ confirming his covenant with many in that last week (there is no floating 70th week, that's arbitrary and absurd). So no, you cannot know the timeline of this heaven and earth with just the 70 weeks prophecy, you can only know the 490 years that this prophecy corresponds to.

Nope. Wrong interpretation, the prophesy was for all time until the end.

The one who confirms a covenant with many is antichrist, not christ
No floating of the 70th week- i agree but it still makes sense if calculated well.

 

[alchristfollower]

Nope. Wrong interpretation, the prophesy was for all time until the end.

The one who confirms a covenant with many is antichrist, not christ
No floating of the 70th week- i agree but it still makes sense if calculated well.

Did it not occur to you that the the last week spoke of Christ, who died in the 3 1/2 years later after receiving the anointing, thus ending sacrifices by becoming the literal sacrifice of God, WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT LAST WEEK (7 - 3.5 = 3.5)?

…In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering… (Daniel 9:27 [NIV])

Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch–as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. (1 Corinthians 5:7 [NIV])

God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood–to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished– (Romans 3:25 [NIV])
Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. (Hebrews 7:27 [NIV])

And in doing so, he confirmed his covenant with many?

“And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week… (Daniel 9:27 [NASB])

“The days are coming,” declares Yehovah, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. (Jeremiah 31:31 [MODIFIED-NIV])

This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. (Matthew 26:28 [NIV])

And by that will, we have been set apart through the sacrifice of the body of Yeshua Christ once for all. Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, (Hebrews 10:10-12 [MODIFIED-NIV])

This is not a coincidence. It is because the last week of Daniel spoke of Christ...... and even if this is not understood by a layman of scripture, at least understand with logic and common sense that these were consecutive weeks, for when someone is told, "I'm coming in seven days from tomorrow", does he think he is coming in seven days from tomorrow or does he think six days from tomorrow, and one day in a year? It is stupid to presume the latter.

 

[Noose]

Did it not occur to you that the the last week spoke of Christ, who died in the 3 1/2 years later after receiving the anointing, thus ending sacrifices by becoming the literal sacrifice of God, WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT LAST WEEK (7 - 3.5 = 3.5)?

…In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering… (Daniel 9:27 [NIV])

Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch–as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. (1 Corinthians 5:7 [NIV])

God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood–to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished– (Romans 3:25 [NIV])
Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. (Hebrews 7:27 [NIV])

And in doing so, he confirmed his covenant with many?

“And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week… (Daniel 9:27 [NASB])

“The days are coming,” declares Yehovah, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. (Jeremiah 31:31 [MODIFIED-NIV])

This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. (Matthew 26:28 [NIV])

And by that will, we have been set apart through the sacrifice of the body of Yeshua Christ once for all. Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, (Hebrews 10:10-12 [MODIFIED-NIV])

This is not a coincidence. It is because the last week of Daniel spoke of Christ...... and even if this is not understood by a layman of scripture, at least understand with logic and common sense that these were consecutive weeks, for when someone is told, "I'm coming in seven days from tomorrow", does he think he is coming in seven days from tomorrow or does he think six days from tomorrow, and one day in a year? It is stupid to presume the latter.

That is reading scripture with an already established view. You don't need to go to Hebrews or Romans, just read Daniel and understand that it is the antichrist that takes the daily sacrifice away from God's people.


Daniel 8:11
It magnified itself, even to the Prince of the host; it removed His daily sacrifice and overthrew the place of His sanctuary.

Daniel 11:31
His forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress. They will abolish the daily sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation.

Daniel 9:27
And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him."

This is one and the same person. For crying out loud, it is not Christ.

 

[alchristfollower]

That is reading scripture with an already established view. You don't need to go to Hebrews or Romans, just read Daniel and understand that it is the antichrist that takes the daily sacrifice away from God's people.


Daniel 8:11
It magnified itself, even to the Prince of the host; it removed His daily sacrifice and overthrew the place of His sanctuary.

Daniel 11:31
His forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress. They will abolish the daily sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation.

Daniel 9:27
And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him."

This is one and the same person. For crying out loud, it is not Christ.

Are you not aware that sacrifices have been removed from the temple several times? One time around the destruction of the first temple, another time around the destruction of the third temple, and another time around the time Christ became sacrifice for the people of God where the people of God no longer needed to sacrifice animals continually? As such, the 70th week prophecy concerning the end of sacrifices corresponds to the ending of sacrifices that came through Christ, hence why that timeline of 70 weeks relates to the Messiah, whereas the sacrifices that ended at the destruction of the second temple relate to fourth kingdom, which were the Romans, through whom the antichrist came, which was the Roman pope, which has had a line of popes that to this day still exists, and will continue to exist until the coming of Christ, that in the past has committed atrocities and murders and inquisitions that all fulfilled prophecy concerning the horrible things that man would do for over a thousand years. You are confusing two different prophetic timelines, the one in chapter 8 with the one in chapter 9. I advise you to read this study to gain correct understanding,

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2016/10/2...easts-of-revelation-and-the-whore-of-babylon/

 

[alchristfollower]

another time around the destruction of the second temple* (correction to above post)

 

[Noose]

Are you not aware that sacrifices have been removed from the temple several times? One time around the destruction of the first temple, another time around the destruction of the third temple, and another time around the time Christ became sacrifice for the people of God where the people of God no longer needed to sacrifice animals continually? As such, the 70th week prophecy concerning the end of sacrifices corresponds to the ending of sacrifices that came through Christ, hence why that timeline of 70 weeks relates to the Messiah, whereas the sacrifices that ended at the destruction of the second temple relate to fourth kingdom, which were the Romans, through whom the antichrist came, which was the Roman pope, which has had a line of popes that to this day still exists, and will continue to exist until the coming of Christ, that in the past has committed atrocities and murders and inquisitions that all fulfilled prophecy concerning the horrible things that man would do for over a thousand years. You are confusing two different prophetic timelines, the one in chapter 8 with the one in chapter 9. I advise you to read this study to gain correct understanding,

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2016/10/2...easts-of-revelation-and-the-whore-of-babylon/

You are far from grasping what Daniel is talking about. The context is purely spiritual and has nothing to do with a physical temple or physical sacrifices being offered or being stopped. The taking away of sacrifices that Daniel has been talking about through several visions are all about antichrist:

Dan 12:11 And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days.12Blessed is he who waits and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.

Daniel 8:11
11Yes, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down. 12And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered. 13Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said to that certain saint which spoke, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14And he said to me, To two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Daniel 11:31
His forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress. They will abolish the daily sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation.

All these (daily sacrifice being stopped and abomination set) is about the antichrist, Daniel 9:26-27 is also about antichrist and can not be turned around to mean Christ. Stopping the daily sacrifice as per Daniel is not a good thing, it is an abomination. The idea that sacrifices were removed from the temple several times doesn't stand, Daniel is speaking about one item and in the context of antichrist.
Try again.

 

[alchristfollower]

You are far from grasping what Daniel is talking about. The context is purely spiritual and has nothing to do with a physical temple or physical sacrifices being offered or being stopped. The taking away of sacrifices that Daniel has been talking about through several visions are all about antichrist:

Dan 12:11 And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days.12Blessed is he who waits and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.

Daniel 8:11
11Yes, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down. 12And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered. 13Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said to that certain saint which spoke, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14And he said to me, To two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Daniel 11:31
His forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress. They will abolish the daily sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation.

All these (daily sacrifice being stopped and abomination set) is about the antichrist, Daniel 9:26-27 is also about antichrist and can not be turned around to mean Christ. Stopping the daily sacrifice as per Daniel is not a good thing, it is an abomination. The idea that sacrifices were removed from the temple several times doesn't stand, Daniel is speaking about one item and in the context of antichrist.
Try again.

You're so confused you don't even realize it. And being stubborn doesn't help. You are mixing together three different timelines in the three different chapters in three different instances where I told you sacrifices ceased. Let me explain further:

Daniel 8 speaks of the timeline where sacrifices ceased by the fourth kingdom (instance 3 of when sacrifices stopped), which happened by the Romans, which happened at the destruction of the second temple, which happened after the 70 weeks prophecy of Daniel, where in the 70 weeks prophecy before sacrifices stopped at the destruction of the temple sacrifices also stopped by Christ (instance 2 of when sacrifices stopped), because he became sacrifice for his people where the people of God no longer needed to sacrifice animals, where after the 70 weeks prophecy was fulfilled, then we read about the antichrist who came and destroyed the temple of God and Jerusalem after Christ confirmed his covenant with many, which is where the cessation of sacrifices of Daniel 8 then picks up,

And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.” (Daniel 9:27 [ESV])

Out of one of them came a little horn, which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the glorious land. 10 It grew great, even to the host of heaven. And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them.11 It became great, even as great as the Prince of the host. And the regular burnt offering was taken away from him, and the place of his set-apart place was overthrown. 12 And a host will be given over to it together with the regular burnt offering because of transgression, and it will throw truth to the ground, and it will act and prosper. (Daniel 8:9-12 [MODIFIED-ESV])

And in Daniel 12 we read about the first time sacrifices stopped (instance 1), which happened around 600 BC, around the time King Jehoiakim was captured by Babylonians, where the articles of the temple were taken that ceased sacrifices, and shortly thereafter the first temple was destroyed,

Jehoiakim was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem eleven years. He did evil in the eyes of Yehovah his God. 6 Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon attacked him and bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon. 7 Nebuchadnezzar also took to Babylon articles from the temple of Yehovah and put them in his temple there. (2 Chronicles 36:5-7 [NIV])

Which implies sacrifices stopped around then also, for not only were the articles of the temple taken, but the temple was also destroyed, for surely sacrifices did not continue on the rubble of the first temple, where from around 600 BC, then we add 1,290 years, and we reach around 691 AD, which is around the time when the Dome of the Rock was built on the temple mount, thus fulfilling the abominable thing that would be placed in the context of the separate timeline in Daniel 12, and then 1,335 years are added to that date, and we reach around 2026 AD, which is precisely 2,000 years since the anointing of Christ, and also the year 6000 since the beginning.

If you would just listen perhaps you might learn something. There are three timelines in three chapters each starting from the three instances in time where sacrifices stopped in relation to the temple of God.

 

[Noose]

You're so confused you don't even realize it. And being stubborn doesn't help. You are mixing together three different timelines in the three different chapters in three different instances where I told you sacrifices ceased. Let me explain further:

Daniel 8 speaks of the timeline where sacrifices ceased by the fourth kingdom (instance 3 of when sacrifices stopped), which happened by the Romans, which happened at the destruction of the second temple, which happened after the 70 weeks prophecy of Daniel, where in the 70 weeks prophecy before sacrifices stopped at the destruction of the temple sacrifices also stopped by Christ (instance 2 of when sacrifices stopped), because he became sacrifice for his people where the people of God no longer needed to sacrifice animals, where after the 70 weeks prophecy was fulfilled, then we read about the antichrist who came and destroyed the temple of God and Jerusalem after Christ confirmed his covenant with many, which is where the cessation of sacrifices of Daniel 8 then picks up,

And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.” (Daniel 9:27 [ESV])

Out of one of them came a little horn, which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the glorious land. 10 It grew great, even to the host of heaven. And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them.11 It became great, even as great as the Prince of the host. And the regular burnt offering was taken away from him, and the place of his set-apart place was overthrown. 12 And a host will be given over to it together with the regular burnt offering because of transgression, and it will throw truth to the ground, and it will act and prosper. (Daniel 8:9-12 [MODIFIED-ESV])

And in Daniel 12 we read about the first time sacrifices stopped (instance 1), which happened around 600 BC, around the time King Jehoiakim was captured by Babylonians, where the articles of the temple were taken that ceased sacrifices, and shortly thereafter the first temple was destroyed,

Jehoiakim was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem eleven years. He did evil in the eyes of Yehovah his God. 6 Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon attacked him and bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon. 7 Nebuchadnezzar also took to Babylon articles from the temple of Yehovah and put them in his temple there. (2 Chronicles 36:5-7 [NIV])

Which implies sacrifices stopped around then also, for not only were the articles of the temple taken, but the temple was also destroyed, for surely sacrifices did not continue on the rubble of the first temple, where from around 600 BC, then we add 1,290 years, and we reach around 691 AD, which is around the time when the Dome of the Rock was built on the temple mount, thus fulfilling the abominable thing that would be placed in the context of the separate timeline in Daniel 12, and then 1,335 years are added to that date, and we reach around 2026 AD, which is precisely 2,000 years since the anointing of Christ, and also the year 6000 since the beginning.

If you would just listen perhaps you might learn something. There are three timelines in three chapters each starting from the three instances in time where sacrifices stopped in relation to the temple of God.

Nobody would believe that, Jesus and antichrist can not be competing to do the same thing. You are even told that "..he will throw the truth to the ground..." but you still insist it is the Romans, how do Romans throw the truth to the ground?

There are no three timelines you are definitely wrong. When Jesus was asked about the end times, He referred them back to the abomination that Daniel spoke about and that abomination could not have happened in 600BC or 70 AD or any time that you might be having in your head.

Try again.

Or, you can do your 70 week calculation and end up at the 70AD mark, then maybe we can talk.

 

[alchristfollower]

Nobody would believe that, Jesus and antichrist can not be competing to do the same thing. You are even told that "..he will throw the truth to the ground..." but you still insist it is the Romans, how do Romans throw the truth to the ground?

There are no three timelines you are definitely wrong. When Jesus was asked about the end times, He referred them back to the abomination that Daniel spoke about and that abomination could not have happened in 600BC or 70 AD or any time that you might be having in your head.

Try again.

How do the Romans not throw the truth to the ground? Does the pope not teach things like praying to Mary the "queen of heaven", along with many other lies that have most of the world deceived? Have you no understanding of what has happened for almost 2,000 years at the hand of popes through the Roman authority? Open your eyes and understand, and stop being stubborn. I am telling you the truth. I just proved to you, through scripture, of three instances where sacrifices stopped in the temple of God. You cannot deny that there were three times sacrifices stopped in the temple of God. You have chosen to apply the three different timelines in the three different chapters of Daniel to the one instance where sacrifices stopped around 70 AD, at the destruction of the second temple. Where even if you apply the timeline of the 1290+1335 years of the other timeline into this 70 AD timeline, nothing happened in in 1360 AD (adding 1,290 years) in relation to any desecration of the temple. So you are already incorrect. But if you add 1,290 years to the first instance of when sacrifices stopped, then voila, you do reach a time when the temple was desecrated, when the Dome of the Rock was built on the temple mount. Even when Christ was talking about the "abomination of desolation", he was talking about instance of when sacrifices would stop at the hand of the Romans around 70 AD, for it was they that invaded Jerusalem and destroyed the temple, which happened after the 70 weeks of Daniel as I showed you, which is why he said, "when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then flee",

“When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. (Luke 21:20-24 [NIV])

“So when you see standing in the set-apart place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel–let the reader understand– then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. (Matthew 24:15-20 [MODIFIED-NIV])

 

[Noose]

How do the Romans not throw the truth to the ground? Does the pope not teach things like praying to Mary the "queen of heaven", along with many other lies that have most of the world deceived? Have you no understanding of what has happened for almost 2,000 years at the hand of popes through the Roman authority? Open your eyes and understand, and stop being stubborn. I am telling you the truth. I just proved to you, through scripture, of three instances where sacrifices stopped in the temple of God. You cannot deny that there were three times sacrifices stopped in the temple of God. You have chosen to apply the three different timelines in the three different chapters of Daniel to the one instance where sacrifices stopped around 70 AD, at the destruction of the second temple. Where even if you apply the timeline of the 1290+1335 years of the other timeline into this 70 AD timeline, nothing happened in in 1360 AD (adding 1,290 years) in relation to any desecration of the temple. So you are already incorrect. But if you add 1,290 years to the first instance of when sacrifices stopped, then voila, you do reach a time when the temple was desecrated, when the Dome of the Rock was built on the temple mount. Even when Christ was talking about the "abomination of desolation", he was talking about instance of when sacrifices would stop at the hand of the Romans around 70 AD, for it was they that invaded Jerusalem and destroyed the temple, which happened after the 70 weeks of Daniel as I showed you, which is why he said, "when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then flee",

“When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. (Luke 21:20-24 [NIV])

“So when you see standing in the set-apart place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel–let the reader understand– then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. (Matthew 24:15-20 [MODIFIED-NIV])

No Pope or a Roman Catholic set their foot in the temple in 70AD, so you have to twist the already twisted view to achieve that.
Do the 70 weeks math and end up at the 70AD mark then we can talk otherwise you are shooting in the dark and you are missing by a mile.

Time of the gentiles?!!

Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like to a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given to the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

This is talking about the times of the gentiles, did this already happen in the 70AD?

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined on your people and on your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Get real, the 70 weeks will only end when i say so or rather when these happens:
1. finish the transgression
2. make an end of sins
3. make reconciliation for iniquity
4. bring in everlasting righteousness
5. seal up the vision and prophecy

All these did not happen in 70AD.

Try again.

 

[alchristfollower]

No Pope or a Roman Catholic set their foot in the temple in 70AD, so you have to twist the already twisted view to achieve that.
Do the 70 weeks math and end up at the 70AD mark then we can talk otherwise you are shooting in the dark and you are missing by a mile.

Time of the gentiles?!!

Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like to a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given to the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

This is talking about the times of the gentiles, did this already happen in the 70AD?

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined on your people and on your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Get real, the 70 weeks will only end when i say so or rather when these happens:
1. finish the transgression
2. make an end of sins
3. make reconciliation for iniquity
4. bring in everlasting righteousness
5. seal up the vision and prophecy

All these did not happen in 70AD.

Try again.

But a Roman authority did set foot in the temple, through whom popes came. They are all related, through Rome, the fourth kingdom of Daniel that would still exist even until the coming of Christ, because it now corresponds to the pope. The time of the Gentiles has and is already happening, for the 42 months in Revelation is yet another timeline speaking of those who trampled Jerusalem, which was those who built the Dome of the Rock over the temple site, and then lost control over the city around 1,260 years later when the Jews retook control of the city, thus fulfilling the 42 month timeline, and that Dome of the Rock will be in the outer court next to the third temple that will be built in accordance to the vision of this prophecy.

Next, when Christ shed his blood, he brought an end to sin, in fulfillment of the prophecy that spoke of him, the 70 weeks prophecy,

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy set-apart city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in aeonial righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most set-apart. (Daniel 9:24 [MODIFIED-KJV])

Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the aeons* to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. (Hebrews 9:26 [MODIFIED-NIV])*

Interlinear Links: *αἰώνων (aeons), Hebrews 9:26

Which the blood of animals was never able to accomplish,

This was a symbol for the time then present, when gifts and sacrifices were offered that could not perfect the conscience of the worshiper. (Hebrews 9:9 [NETBIBLE])

For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and of he-goats to remove sins. (Hebrews 10:4 [ABP])

Which is why whoever is set apart by the spirit of God cannot sin, because through the blood of Christ and through belief in Christ, one is then "freed from sin" and "circumcised in the heart", which means putting off the sinful nature, which happens when a believer truly receives the spirit of God, which not many do,

In Him you were also circumcised in the putting off of your sinful nature… (Colossians 2:11 [BSB])

No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God. (Romans 2:29 [NIV])

And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules. (Ezekiel 36:27 [ESV])

in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. (Romans 8:4 [NIV])

according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, becoming set apart of the Spirit, for obedience to Yeshua Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you. (1 Peter 1:2 [MODIFIED-ESV])

But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Master, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through becoming set apart by the Spirit and belief in the truth. (2 Thessalonians 2:13 [MODIFIED-ESV])

We know that every one being engendered of God does not sin; but the one engendered of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him. (I John 5:18 [ABP])

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (1 John 3:9 [KJV])

But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— (Romans 3:21 [ESV])

You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. (Romans 6:18 [NIV])

But now, having been set free from sin, and having become servants of Elohim, you have your fruit resulting in set-apartness, and the end, aeonial* life. (Romans 6:22 [MODIFIED-TS2009])*

Interlinear Links: *αἰώνιον (aeonial), Romans 6:22

For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin– because anyone who has died has been set free from sin. (Romans 6:6-7 [NIV])

 

[Noose]

But a Roman authority did set foot in the temple, through whom popes came. They are all related, through Rome, the fourth kingdom of Daniel that would still exist even until the coming of Christ, because it now corresponds to the pope. The time of the Gentiles has and is already happening, for the 42 months in Revelation is yet another timeline speaking of those who trampled Jerusalem, which was those who built the Dome of the Rock over the temple site, and then lost control over the city around 1,260 years later when the Jews retook control of the city, thus fulfilling the 42 month timeline, and that Dome of the Rock will be in the outer court next to the third temple that will be built in accordance to the vision of this prophecy.

Next, when Christ shed his blood, he brought an end to sin, in fulfillment of the prophecy that spoke of him, the 70 weeks prophecy,

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy set-apart city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in aeonial righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most set-apart. (Daniel 9:24 [MODIFIED-KJV])

Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the aeons* to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. (Hebrews 9:26 [MODIFIED-NIV])*

Interlinear Links: *αἰώνων (aeons), Hebrews 9:26

Which the blood of animals was never able to accomplish,

This was a symbol for the time then present, when gifts and sacrifices were offered that could not perfect the conscience of the worshiper. (Hebrews 9:9 [NETBIBLE])

For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and of he-goats to remove sins. (Hebrews 10:4 [ABP])

Which is why whoever is set apart by the spirit of God cannot sin, because through the blood of Christ and through belief in Christ, one is then "freed from sin" and "circumcised in the heart", which means putting off the sinful nature, which happens when a believer truly receives the spirit of God, which not many do,

In Him you were also circumcised in the putting off of your sinful nature… (Colossians 2:11 [BSB])

No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God. (Romans 2:29 [NIV])

And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules. (Ezekiel 36:27 [ESV])

in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. (Romans 8:4 [NIV])

according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, becoming set apart of the Spirit, for obedience to Yeshua Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you. (1 Peter 1:2 [MODIFIED-ESV])

But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Master, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through becoming set apart by the Spirit and belief in the truth. (2 Thessalonians 2:13 [MODIFIED-ESV])

We know that every one being engendered of God does not sin; but the one engendered of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him. (I John 5:18 [ABP])

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (1 John 3:9 [KJV])

But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— (Romans 3:21 [ESV])

You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. (Romans 6:18 [NIV])

But now, having been set free from sin, and having become servants of Elohim, you have your fruit resulting in set-apartness, and the end, aeonial* life. (Romans 6:22 [MODIFIED-TS2009])*

Interlinear Links: *αἰώνιον (aeonial), Romans 6:22

For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin– because anyone who has died has been set free from sin. (Romans 6:6-7 [NIV])

Nope.
Do the 70 weeks math and end up at 70AD then perhaps we can talk, you can't do that can you?

1. Was transgression and sins done away with in the 70AD?

No. Jesus sacrifice was in 33AD and transgression and sins continue to date. I sin you sin and it will always be like this until the end of time.

2. Was everlasting righteousness brought in the 70AD?

Of course not. The world is full of unrighteousness.

3. Was vision and prophecy sealed in the 70AD?

No. We still have unfulfilled prophesies.

Hebrews 12:15
Be careful that no one falls short of the grace of God, so that no root of bitterness will spring up to cause trouble and defile many.

Heb 4:1Therefore, while the promise of entering His rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be deemed to have fallen short of it. ....
11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following the same pattern of disobedience.

If sin was brought to an end in 70AD why does Paul urge us to strive?

 

[alchristfollower]

Nope.
Do the 70 weeks math and end up at 70AD then perhaps we can talk, you can't do that can you?

1. Was transgression and sins done away with in the 70AD?

No. Jesus sacrifice was in 33AD and transgression and sins continue to date. I sin you sin and it will always be like this until the end of time.

2. Was everlasting righteousness brought in the 70AD?

Of course not. The world is full of unrighteousness.

3. Was vision and prophecy sealed in the 70AD?

No. We still have unfulfilled prophesies.

Hebrews 12:15
Be careful that no one falls short of the grace of God, so that no root of bitterness will spring up to cause trouble and defile many.

Heb 4:1Therefore, while the promise of entering His rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be deemed to have fallen short of it. ....
11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following the same pattern of disobedience.

If sin was brought to an end in 70AD why does Paul urge us to strive?

Read this study. Perhaps you will understand. Perhaps not. http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/03/07/repentance-and-sin-no-more-perfection-and-born-of-the-spirit/ .

 

[Noose]

Read this study. Perhaps you will understand. Perhaps not. http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/03/07/repentance-and-sin-no-more-perfection-and-born-of-the-spirit/ .

I will but in a nutshell, can you show how to calculate the 70 weeks and end up in 70AD? if you can't, there's no point.

 

[RickyZ]

Or...
Perhaps God's word is big enough to reverberate thru time with more than one manifestation..?

 

[Noose]

Or...
Perhaps God's word is big enough to reverberate thru time with more than one manifestation..?

But there's only one beginning and one end. 70 week calendar is the calendar that leads us to the end - the very end.
Jesus refers us back to Daniel when it come to end times and whoever has understanding of the calendar, will also know when the end comes- meaning that there's only one understanding.

 

[alchristfollower]

I will but in a nutshell, can you show how to calculate the 70 weeks and end up in 70AD? if you can't, there's no point.

You don't end up in 70 AD, you end up around in the last week of Daniel from 26 AD to 33 AD, and then after was the destruction of Jerusalem around 70 AD.