The curse of the law

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DesiredHaven

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Here are the words as numbered (so we can check this out for ourselves)

Neh 10:29 They clave to their brethren, their nobles, and entered into a curse, [SUP]H423 [/SUP]and into an oath,[SUP]H7621[/SUP] to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the LORDour Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;

a curse, [SUP]H423 (go to link)

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an oath, [SUP]H7621 (go to link)

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entered into a curse, [SUP]H423 [/SUP]and into an oath,[SUP]H7621[/SUP]to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all:eek:the commandments of the LORDour Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;


 
InSpiritInTruth

InSpiritInTruth

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DesiredHaven said:

Who cares what others believe what does the scripture say?

Thank you! I agree with the scripture as well.

Got scripture?

Thank you!
Got more scripture?

Thank you!
And so what are you seeing here?

We sure can see what Paul was saying.
Very confiming scriptures.
And although the law is perfect (Psalm 19:7)
The law could not make anything perfect (Heb 7:19)
As the bringing in of the better hope did, even through God sending his Son to condemn sin in the flesh.
How great is our God? He is pretty awesome!

The scripture you already posted works just fine...
Romans 7:12 “Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.”
So...?
Yes, Gods law is holy and is not sin, the knowledge of sin is by the law (Romans 3:20)

Doesnt Paul himself mention this curse according to the scriptures he himself uses to show it? What does Paul say?

So Paul is quoting Duet 27:26 in Galations 3:10 How does this oath/curse/law thing fit work in Duet there?

So the oath itself or curse (unto which) they agreed to is written into the law in respects to keeping all things written there in?

This is true, here are the words as numbered (so we can check this out for ourselves)
Neh 10:29 They clave to their brethren, their nobles, and entered into a curse, [SUP]H423 [/SUP]and into an oath, [SUP]H7621[/SUP] to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the LORDour Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;

Yes, you can catch these connection even in these two pictures.
Paul uses this reference (in Gal 3:10)

Deuteronomy 27:26 "Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them.

And all the people shall say, Amen.”

Whereas here it shows this...

Neh 10:29 They clave to their brethren, their nobles entered into a curse, and into an oath,to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the LORD our Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;

So they must confirm all the words because it says

Deuteronomy 27:26 "Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them.

And all the people shall say, Amen.” to the, "Cursed be he that confirmeth not all

Which is also what you are showing in relation to the law which Paul himself quotes (in Galations) and curse and oath as it can be seen in Neh 10:29

Its so great to just agree in the scripture

Thank you InSpiritInTruth
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Thank you, and yes to argue against what I posted is to argue against the words of God found in the scriptures, of which I posted to confirm. Good job Sis.
 
InSpiritInTruth

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DesiredHaven said:
Here are the words as numbered (so we can check this out for ourselves)

Neh 10:29 They clave to their brethren, their nobles, and entered into a curse, [SUP]H423 [/SUP]and into an oath,[SUP]H7621[/SUP] to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the LORDour Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;

a curse, [SUP]H423 (go to link)

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an oath, [SUP]H7621 (go to link)

[/SUP] View attachment 110326

entered into a curse, [SUP]H423 [/SUP]and into an oath,[SUP]H7621[/SUP]to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all:eek:the commandments of the LORDour Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;


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And the Truth shall set you free! :)
 
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DesiredHaven

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InSpiritInTruth said:
Thank you, and yes to argue against what I posted is to argue against the words of God found in the scriptures, of which I posted to confirm. Good job Sis.
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Wrangling with the very scripture which Paul himself puts forth and further confirms his own words LOL!

Everything you posted followed Pauls lead and agrees in Pauls words
 
InSpiritInTruth

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DesiredHaven said:
Wrangling with the very scripture which Paul himself puts forth and further confirms his own words LOL!

Everything you posted followed Pauls lead and agrees in Pauls words
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I know, which really makes you wonder right? LOL
 
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DesiredHaven

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InSpiritInTruth said:
And the Truth shall set you free! :)
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Thats why I posted the links from the start because you know it will be endless wrangling over words as is always done. So if anyone didnt see the links I had already provided (because they were small) they were there for anyone to look for themselves next to both words and both are in accord with what you even said. So arguing more straw over words is too funny!

How utterly ridiculous,



Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies,
and contentions, and strivings about the law;
for they are unprofitable and vain.

Its all vain


 
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newlife7

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We must remember that the law is for the ungodly
 
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DesiredHaven

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No one is even promotion the law just speaking to the teaching of Pauls in respects to the curse of the law and Pauls explanation as can be found in where he himself references.

Which is why this whole strife over it is so plain ridiculous.
 
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newlife7

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We must remember that the law is for the ungodly and that it is not made for the righteous! Titus
 
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DesiredHaven

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Who doesnt know its not made for the righteous?

LOL
 
Gozinia

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Can one's own authority declare themselves righteous by their own standards...Or does God's authority declare one righteous by God's standards.How must a person live to then know if they are righteous enough to no longer be bound by the law?
 
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DesiredHaven

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If you are asking me I havent the slightest clue what you are asking
 
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newlife7

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I think it is 1st Timothy not Titus. Im not trying to quarrel I just want to people to understand what the book of Galatians says that if people want to live by the law they must obey it completely which is something only Jesus could do.
 
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newlife7

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because believers of Christ have had their hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and their bodies washed pure. Ask yourself this how is someone supposed to memorize and obey all 613 commandments in the law and at the same time rest from their works like Christ rested from His. Also how are we to trust in God alone to perfect His work in us and at the same time try to establish our own righteousness by the law. The old testament is to show us we are sinners and that we need Christ after that we are to live by the New Testament alone. The truth is it is not possible to live by both covenants we can not live by the letter and by the Spirit at the same time the covenants are that different.
 
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DesiredHaven

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newlife7 said:
because believers of Christ have had their hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and their bodies washed pure. Ask yourself this how is someone supposed to memorize and obey all 613 commandments in the law and at the same time rest from their works like Christ rested from His. Also how are we to trust in God alone to perfect His work in us and at the same time try to establish our own righteousness by the law. The old testament is to show us we are sinners and that we need Christ after that we are to live by the New Testament alone. The truth is it is not possible to live by both covenants we can not live by the letter and by the Spirit at the same time the covenants are that different.
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What are you talking about?

What part of the OP's post are you commenting on?
 
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DesiredHaven

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I think you should start a different thread on that topic
 
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