The Deceitfulness of New.Modern.Hyper Grace

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Grace777x70

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I tend to think that my two "opponents" would have issues with me saying God is love...it's just the nature of the beast I guess....but the Lord will work all that out. He is mighty to save!

The Holy Spirit has united us in agreement. Yes it sure does makes us laugh and scratch our heads my sister. He is awesome! I like to talk about things that lift up Jesus and His perfect work on our behalf. I believe all of heaven including the Holy Spirit rushes to us when we lift up Jesus and talk about His majesty and love and abundant grace in and through us..

Stunnedbygrace said:
Well, bless you too, grace dude!
The problem is in seeing what words or phrases are being resisted or in seeing where the resistance lies and then speaking in different phrasing because as you can see, two of your "opponents" have hit "like" in answer to my post.

I knew all three of you would agree with what I said because I have talked with all three of you. But you each have pet phrases that set you in opposition when no real opposition exists.

How about that? The Holy Spirit really has united us in agreement...it makes you laugh and scratch your head at how He does it!
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Grace777x70

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And then there is the cartoon character "Chilly Willy "...not sure if you guys had that cartoon growing up in the US?

I'd take your definition of chilly...as the food...yummy!


Stunnedbygrace said:
Three different people could argue over what the word "chilly" meant.
1. It means you are cold and shivering.
2. It means someone is giving you the cold shoulder.
3. No, you are lying! It means a red dish with beef and beans!
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Tried and tried to download a pic of chilly willy but because I am so old I am very bad with technology...
 
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Grace777x70 said:
I tend to think that my two "opponents" would have issues with me saying God is love...it's just the nature of the beast I guess....but the Lord will work all that out. He is mighty to save!

The Holy Spirit has united us in agreement. Yes it sure does makes us laugh and scratch our heads my sister. He is awesome! I like to talk about things that lift up Jesus and His perfect work on our behalf. I believe all of heaven including the Holy Spirit rushes to us when we lift up Jesus and talk about His majesty and love and abundant grace in and through us..
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This just demonstrates how you habitually mischaractierize issues. That's at least half of the problem.
 
PeterJens

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Grace777x70 said:
I tend to think that my two "opponents" would have issues with me saying God is love..
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This is just pompous and called projection. The idea is the enemy are painted evil and the speaker is the innocent victim.

This is how all propoganda works.

No christian who follows Jesus would not say "God is love"

But love is also Jericho, the lake of fire, sin and judgement, the cross and forgiveness from the heart.
To describe some here as professional in their ability to avoid their failures and project a single destructive message makes me wonder who are these people. Brain-washed or is their another agenda.

In the history of the church there are as many agendas as there are people. So if they do not engage in concepts they are not honest true seekers after Jesus, but imposters of one sort or another. You cannot debate with a liar, because nothing is consistent or actually matters other than their propoganda.

The best way is just to undermine the core message and show up their tactics.
 
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I never underestimate our ability to completely undo what the Spirit begins to breath.
Then again, I never believe for a moment that He won't get us there eventually or that our stubborness and our inability to think before we speak will be stronger than Him!
 
Grace777x70

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Amen!....this scripture is one that I constantly speak to Him and to myself...we can trust in Him to be faithful to all of us..

Philippians 1:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.





Stunnedbygrace said:
I never underestimate our ability to completely undo what the Spirit begins to breath.
Then again, I never believe for a moment that He won't get us there eventually or that our stubborness and our inability to think before we speak will be stronger than Him!
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PeterJens

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And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.
Rom 8:28

It is amazing how the Lord bring victory out of defeat, strength out of weakness, joy out of sorrow, peace out of hate, mercy out of pain.

I know whoever I face, the Lord will use it to His glory, so Amen,
 
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PeterJens said:
And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.
Rom 8:28

It is amazing how the Lord bring victory out of defeat, strength out of weakness, joy out of sorrow, peace out of hate, mercy out of pain.

I know whoever I face, the Lord will use it to His glory, so Amen,
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Yep God can do all those things, what an amazing God he is.

Now if you just had faith in God that he will keep his children from falling into a state where they are no longer his adopted children. You would finally understand grace.

and when you make these amazing posts. They would actually have meaning, because we know you trust the power of God to do those very things.
 
PeterJens

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“Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.”
Psalm 46:10

My God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation. He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior— from violent people you save me.
2 Sam 22:3

Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying: “‘Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty,’ who was, and is, and is to come.”
Rev 4:8
 
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eternally-gratefull

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PeterJens said:
“Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.”
Psalm 46:10

My God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation. He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior— from violent people you save me.
2 Sam 22:3

Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying: “‘Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty,’ who was, and is, and is to come.”
Rev 4:8
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so then how is God so weak he gives people gifts he KNOWS he will have to take back, And so weak and blind that he can lose people?
 
PeterJens

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eternally-gratefull said:

Yep God can do all those things, what an amazing God he is.
Now if you just had faith in God that he will keep his children from falling into a state where they are no longer his adopted children. You would finally understand grace.
and when you make these amazing posts. They would actually have meaning, because we know you trust the power of God to do those very things.
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And pray that we may be delivered from wicked and evil people, for not everyone has faith. But the Lord is faithful, and he will strengthen you and protect you from the evil one. We have confidence in the Lord that you are doing and will continue to do the things we command. May the Lord direct your hearts into God’s love and Christ’s perseverance.
2 Thess 3:2-5
Amen
 
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PeterJens said:
And pray that we may be delivered from wicked and evil people, for not everyone has faith. But the Lord is faithful, and he will strengthen you and protect you from the evil one. We have confidence in the Lord that you are doing and will continue to do the things we command. May the Lord direct your hearts into God’s love and Christ’s perseverance.
2 Thess 3:2-5
Amen
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On who does not have faith was never saved to begin with.

So your point is invalid, I pray for people who have yet to place faith in Christ every day.. For their salvation.
 
PeterJens

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eternally-gratefull said:
so then how is God so weak he gives people gifts he KNOWS he will have to take back, And so weak and blind that he can lose people?
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Jesus answered, “I told you that I am he. If you are looking for me, then let these men go.” This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: “I have not lost one of those you gave me.”
John 18:8-9


They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”
Rev 17:14
 
PeterJens

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But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.
1 Peter 2:9
 
PeterJens

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In a loud voice they were saying: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!”
Rev 5:12


The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels.
Rev 3:5
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
On who does not have faith was never saved to begin with.

So your point is invalid, I pray for people who have yet to place faith in Christ every day.. For their salvation.
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2 Thess 3:2
2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
KJV

Paul's meaning is about those unreasonable and wicked men not having faith, to show why they are that way. It's not about the Christian not having faith.
 
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PeterJens said:
Jesus answered, “I told you that I am he. If you are looking for me, then let these men go.” This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: “I have not lost one of those you gave me.”
John 18:8-9


They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”
Rev 17:14
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Yep God will not lose anyone, So why do you say he will?
 
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PeterJens said:
In a loud voice they were saying: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!”
Rev 5:12


The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels.
Rev 3:5
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yep. more support for being eternally secure in CHRIST

So why do you reject it?
 
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