The Easily Deceived & The Kony2012 Farce

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QuestionTime

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Well, the joke that is Kony2012 just got funnier with today's news about Jason Russell's godless rampage. Not that it's ever funny that "Christians" are so easily deceived that they think it's America's duty to police the world. That wasn't even the duty of ancient Israel, and it's certainly not what the US Constitution requires of America. America should be an example, not the World's Judge, Jury and Executioner. Ancient Israel was supposed to be an example to the world, and nothing more.

“Don’t let anybody make you think that God chose America as his divine messianic force to be a sort of policeman of the whole world. God has a way of standing before the nations with judgement and it seems that I can hear God saying to America “you are too arrogant, and if you don’t change your ways, I will rise up and break the backbone of your power, and I will place it in the hands of a nation that doesn’t even know my name. Be still and know that I’m God.”” - Martin Luther King

It's about time that the so-called "Christians" realise that America is destroying itself because of this "pre-emptive war- police the world" non-sense, and they run after politicians & pastors who spout this non-sense. They can't open their eyes to see that their politicians & pastors no longer serve them, but instead serve a globalist agenda. When will America wake up? When will the other western-world countries wake up?

Vote: Ron Paul, all ye deceived Americans and get back to your blessed Constitution, because that is the only thing that has ever protected you from tyranny, and once the Constitution is gone, all you - and the rest of the world - will be left with is tyranny.
 
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Hey, I agree. Ron Paul is a crackpot though. sorry :(
 
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if nothing else the 'kony 2012' documentary has at least produced some very telling reactions...by defending a mass murderer so openly the conspiracy theorists are finally showing the world how evil they really are...

vote non paul to keep this kind of evil out of our government
 
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My goodness, this is so terribly short-sighted. Because he used some drugs and acted violent and behaved in a terrible way doesn't say anything about his Kony campain. Nothing.

If you think the Kony case should be laid to rest, you're just out of your mind. That guy recruites harmless kids for his army, letting them kill their own parents. And you're calling it a joke?

By the way, I do not care whether the USA will stop Kony or any other army, as long as he will be stopped, because he's a danger to thousands of innocent people in Africa.
 
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I must say something needs to be done by someone to protect the innocent children of this world. The Lord will place this upon the heart of his people. Perhaps upon the heart of some of his willfully sinful people. Thankfully our righteousness is in Christ alone and by prompting of his Holy Spirit we will be inspired to act. There are those who justify their lack of action by focusing on possible corruption. I used to do this when it came to feeding the hungry of the world. Thank the Lord that after 2 years of praying for my husbands heart to be softened we now support a child in Tanzania and one in Rwanda through Compassion canada. Now I'm certain we can dig in the closet of the president of compassion and dig out a couple of skeletons. Those skeletons though would have NOTHING on MINE!!! Still I received the mercy and grace and love of the Lord.

Judge not the skeletons in the closet of the workman approved by God, judge instead the heart of the one receiving the message that GOD wants HIS will to be done by his people. America/Canada are supposed to be Christian nations so it stands to reason that we would be proactive in doing Gods will because his Holy Spirit will put that will upon his people. I dont know if the current president is Christian or not, he says yes, the Lord can judge his heart. I do know that he speaks for a nation of people with strong Christian values. Gods will be done in this election. Pray for it people, not just American people but people throughout the world.
 

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Hey, I agree. Ron Paul is a crackpot though. sorry :(
Yep, that's what the media tells you, and you - like many others - choose to believe whatever they tell you. Since when did following the US Constitution and the advice of your forefathers make someone a crackpot? Ron Paul is the only Christian running for President right now, the others are Christian in name only.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u3iWydQrEU[/video]
 

QuestionTime

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if nothing else the 'kony 2012' documentary has at least produced some very telling reactions...by defending a mass murderer so openly the conspiracy theorists are finally showing the world how evil they really are...

vote non paul to keep this kind of evil out of our government
So America will convert the world to Democracy with guns and bombs? Do you really think that will work? Is that how Jesus converted people?

And no, no one is defending Kony. God will repay. It is His duty to avenge, not ours. America is not morally superior, it's an immoral and godless nation now.
 
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So America will convert the world to Democracy with guns and bombs? Do you really think that will work? Is that how Jesus converted people?

And no, no one is defending Kony. God will repay. It is His duty to avenge, not ours. America is not morally superior, it's an immoral and godless nation now.
the outrage over joseph kony has nothing to do with any democracy spreading agenda...uganda is already a democracy...so you are just changing the subject...

and yes you -are- defending kony...by repeatedly questioning the christianity of anyone who suggests that a mass murderer might be a bad guy and that stopping him might be a good cause...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Yep, that's what the media tells you, and you - like many others - choose to believe whatever they tell you. Since when did following the US Constitution and the advice of your forefathers make someone a crackpot? Ron Paul is the only Christian running for President right now, the others are Christian in name only.
ron paul doesn't follow the constitution...he follows his own radical personal reinterpretation of the constitution...and completely ignores how the founders applied it...

and it is ironic that you call someone who openly acknowledges that his ideology is inspired by -atheist- ayn rand 'the only christian running for president right now'...

vote non paul
 

QuestionTime

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I must say something needs to be done by someone to protect the innocent children of this world. The Lord will place this upon the heart of his people. Perhaps upon the heart of some of his willfully sinful people. Thankfully our righteousness is in Christ alone and by prompting of his Holy Spirit we will be inspired to act. There are those who justify their lack of action by focusing on possible corruption. I used to do this when it came to feeding the hungry of the world. Thank the Lord that after 2 years of praying for my husbands heart to be softened we now support a child in Tanzania and one in Rwanda through Compassion canada.
What would you suggest be done? Bomb Kony and his child army and innocent civilians? How many children would be killed? This isn't ancient Israel and God has not commanded NATO to exterminate an evil nation. When Israel was holy and upright - after wandering 40 years in the desert - they could obey a divine command to destroy other nations. But the NATO countries are far from upright, and God has certainly not ordered them to bomb Kony.

Now I'm certain we can dig in the closet of the president of compassion and dig out a couple of skeletons. Those skeletons though would have NOTHING on MINE!!! Still I received the mercy and grace and love of the Lord.

I don't understand who the "president of compassion" is.

Judge not the skeletons in the closet of the workman approved by God, judge instead the heart of the one receiving the message that GOD wants HIS will to be done by his people. America/Canada are supposed to be Christian nations so it stands to reason that we would be proactive in doing Gods will because his Holy Spirit will put that will upon his people. I dont know if the current president is Christian or not, he says yes, the Lord can judge his heart. I do know that he speaks for a nation of people with strong Christian values. Gods will be done in this election. Pray for it people, not just American people but people throughout the world.
If Obama was a Christian, he wouldn't pass laws like the National Defense Authorization Act NDAA, which allows American citizens to be arrested "on suspicion", held indefinitely (no right to a lawyer or judge) and tortured. If Obama was a Christian, his lawyers wouldn't be arguing that he can legally assassinate citizens because they suspect that those people may "someday" commit a crime. This is by definition "guilty until proven innocent" and certainly does not jive with the Biblical instruction that 2-3 witnesses are required before someone is declared guilty of a crime.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ68KY96zKQ[/video]
 
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the president of compassion canada is who I meant. I dont think Obama is christian either but he represents a Christian nation.
 

QuestionTime

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the outrage over joseph kony has nothing to do with any democracy spreading agenda...uganda is already a democracy...so you are just changing the subject...

and yes you -are- defending kony...by repeatedly questioning the christianity of anyone who suggests that a mass murderer might be a bad guy and that stopping him might be a good cause...
Every war the US starts is under the guise of "spreading Democracy." They are going to spread bombs - err - Democracy in Syria and Iran pretty soon too.

Yes, I am questioning whether or not it is the proper stance for a Christian to hold. I certainly didn't see Jesus bringing criminals to justice in His day. He didn't come to kill and destroy, but to offer repentance. When He comes the next time He will bring justice. It is not our job to give justice as Christians. It is our job to stand aside and let God take vengeance. We are to "leave room for wrath" according to the Bible.

The USA and Canada need to pull their troops out of foreign countries and stop the invasions, or we will be the ones under God's judgement, because our countries have not been given any license by God to invade and kill. Period.




 

QuestionTime

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ron paul doesn't follow the constitution...he follows his own radical personal reinterpretation of the constitution...and completely ignores how the founders applied it...

and it is ironic that you call someone who openly acknowledges that his ideology is inspired by -atheist- ayn rand 'the only christian running for president right now'...

vote non paul

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none." ~ Thomas Jefferson

That's a pretty radical stance there by Thomas Jefferson, isn't it? Why is Ron Paul the only one who takes that stance? But I guess Ron Paul has "radically misinterpreted" Thomas Jefferson here. Yep, you're right. Thomas Jefferson is clearly saying we ought to join the United Nations and police the world. Right...

Anyway, I won't argue with you further. If you want tyranny in America, then that is what you will have.
 
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Every war the US starts is under the guise of "spreading Democracy." They are going to spread bombs - err - Democracy in Syria and Iran pretty soon too.

Yes, I am questioning whether or not it is the proper stance for a Christian to hold. I certainly didn't see Jesus bringing criminals to justice in His day. He didn't come to kill and destroy, but to offer repentance. When He comes the next time He will bring justice. It is not our job to give justice as Christians. It is our job to stand aside and let God take vengeance. We are to "leave room for wrath" according to the Bible.

The USA and Canada need to pull their troops out of foreign countries and stop the invasions, or we will be the ones under God's judgement, because our countries have not been given any license by God to invade and kill. Period.




psalm 106:3..."Blessed are they who maintain justice, who constantly do what is right."

isaiah 1:17..."Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Defend the cause of the fatherless, plead the case of the widow."

isaiah 56:1..."Maintain justice and do what is right, for my salvation is close at hand and my righteousness will soon be revealed."

zechariah 7:9..."This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another."

so yes it is our job as christians to seek justice...as for those who disagree with that fact...here is what God says about them...

proverbs 29:7..."The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern."

proverbs 28:5..."Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the LORD understand it fully."

and here is God's warning to you...

deuteronomy 27:19..."Cursed is the man who withholds justice from the alien, the fatherless or the widow."

jeremiah 21:12..."Administer justice every morning; rescue from the hand of his oppressor the one who has been robbed, or my wrath will break out and burn like fire because of the evil you have done—burn with no one to quench it."

it is you who will be under God's judgment if you despise justice and defend the oppressors...
 
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"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none." ~ Thomas Jefferson

That's a pretty radical stance there by Thomas Jefferson, isn't it? Why is Ron Paul the only one who takes that stance? But I guess Ron Paul has "radically misinterpreted" Thomas Jefferson here. Yep, you're right. Thomas Jefferson is clearly saying we ought to join the United Nations and police the world. Right...

Anyway, I won't argue with you further. If you want tyranny in America, then that is what you will have.
as president...and as vice president and secretary of state and ambassador to france before that...jefferson maintained 'entangling' treaties with several other nations...namely france sweden prussia and morocco

jefferson was also the first american president to invade a muslim nation without a congressional declaration of war...and planned for a 'regime change' in that conflict...

so yes...ron paul and his revisionist supporters radically misinterpret jefferson when they claim that he advised isolating america from the world...refusing to use military force...and doing business with criminal regimes...

vote non paul to keep our constitution from being distorted by the coalition of the clueless
 

loveme1

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if nothing else the 'kony 2012' documentary has at least produced some very telling reactions...by defending a mass murderer so openly the conspiracy theorists are finally showing the world how evil they really are...

vote non paul to keep this kind of evil out of our government

If the good guy is the bad guy, and the bad guy is the bad guy, then who really is good?

I think the world is actually confused, now you have people defending a mass murderer?

Where will we seek refuge?

Being a Bible student, surely you then have something more to tell us?

Yes, anyone defending a mass murderer, if that is what he is, is not very fruitful.

But are they not victims of lies? Are they not victims of an evil agenda trying to provoke them?

They believe they have been woken up by alex jones and co, yet i say they are more asleep than ever.

There is only one that can wake people up, and that is Almighty Yahweh God. Call out in the name of Yeshua our Messiah, and let your eyes, see, and your ears, hear.

Putting your trust in a man like alex jones is going to lead you away from the truth.

Do not take the bait.... the website, states "there is war on your mind".
Stay away, and read the Bible old and new front to back.

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

13Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.



3Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

We are not to make war with weapons, our armor is the truth.

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; 19And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, 20For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
 
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Well, the joke that is Kony2012 just got funnier with today's news about Jason Russell's godless rampage.
I was under the impression that Russell identified as an evangelical Christian. As an example, he spoke at Liberty University. Rampage perhaps, but I don't see why it necessarily qualifies as godless.
 

QuestionTime

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Anyone who thinks that the USA has a moral right or obligation to overthrow dictators around the world - in the name of "human rights" - needs to see exactly how America treats it's own citizens:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa_-iQgaZgY&feature=g-all-u&context=G2a9b76aFAAAAAAAACAA[/video]

Hypocrites!
 
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the outrage over joseph kony has nothing to do with any democracy spreading agenda...uganda is already a democracy...so you are just changing the subject...

and yes you -are- defending kony...by repeatedly questioning the christianity of anyone who suggests that a mass murderer might be a bad guy and that stopping him might be a good cause...
You only hear about things "they" want you to back. And you only hear one side of the coin.
Back when Clinton was President, Kubal, capital of Afghanistan, was the most dangerous city
in the world, due to the civil war in the country. People and children were being killed, and
even relief agencies pulled out. You heard not a word of this, unless you browsed Usenet news
services as I did.

When Clinton sent troops into Serbia because of the so called ethnic cleanings, you heard
a very different story in the American media, than what I had been reading. Even the
magazine US News and World report had stated a year earlier, the KLA (Kosovo Liberation
Army) was thugs and drug runers. But when Clinton got involved, they were innocent
victims of ethnic cleanings. Even the people I chatted with, that lived over there said
we were being lied to. Why did the G7 go in and defend thugs and drug runners? How come
these civilians had military weapons? How could they afford them? Do you know where
the drugs orginated that were passing through that area? Afghanistan. Hey, guess what,
we over there too. Seems these wars are nothing but a turf battle over who controls
the drug trade.

When the USA wants to send in troops, they need a villian to justify it.
 

loveme1

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Covert operation.

If you need to take control you must do more than take out the front man, you invade and change from within.

If you take the top brick of a wall away, you are still left with a wall.

So you attack the whole wall to make sure, the wall is not held up by a the lower bricks...

Then you simply rebuild the wall with your own bricks :)