The Error of KJV-Onlyism

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Nov 28, 2023
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To all:

Anyone who wants to get into the textual issues with the Greek that underlies the English of the KJV in defending it and know the popular Critical Text proponents and their agenda, I would highly recommend Nick Sayers Channel on YouTube. Nick goes long. He often speaks live for 4 hours or so, and I will watch his videos in parts over a couple days sometimes. He provides a lot of good information. Every once in a while he will go a little off topic and say things I may not always agree with. But he offers really great info for those who want to learn. Nick Sayers also interviews many who defend the TR and KJV, as well.

Here is Nick’s playlist on his interviews:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqB_aLXrOZ55_NzBwkYQ2aFStHCj9ZrJg&si=lH_jO2zLqxcyDhOJ

Here is his playlist on Mark Ward:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqB_aLXrOZ56iiCgS5GhQTc3m7pArL7JB&si=Utomaa8RIycjnDTI

If you want to see the best of Nick’s stuff in general to watch, make sure you select the “Live” tab button at the top bar in the video section on his YouTube channel (Seeing most of his stuff is done live). This will show the KJV debates, the TR / KJV interviews, and critiques of Mark Ward, and James White’s book, etcetera. Note: If you just see his regular video section, you will not see all his good content.

Nick Sayers just started to do KJV debates so there is only one KJV debate listed on his channel so far.
He recently had a debate between Peter Van Kleek vs. TurrentinFan (Francis). I was disappointed with Kleek in his recent debate. He had a good beginning but he did not give us good reasons for his points in the beginning to back up his claims. Note: I would have provided a list of changed doctrines in detail but he did not do that. Kleek believes the Scrivener Greek (1881) is the inspired Word of God in Koine Greek today. But Kleek did not give us any good reasons why he believes this is the case. I actually have reasons to show that the hand of God is upon the KJV (Which I believe is a unique form of the TR as stated by Edward Hills). Here is my short list.

Why The Hand of God is Upon the KJB:

  1. Two Textus Receptus translators were martyred (Tyndale, & Rogers).
  2. King James helped to temporarily unite two Christian groups that were in opposition to each with the KJV (Puritans and Anglicans).
  3. The largest assembly of the best translators in the world were gathered together. This assembly was unlike any other before them or after.
  4. KJB and its translators were almost destroyed by a super bomb.
  5. KJB was prophetically chosen in a language that is the world language of today (Note: Granted, while 1600s English is not the world language of today, it is still English and a part of Modern English we have today).
  6. The three great revivals were a result of the KJV (Compare that to the fruit of the Modern Bibles in this Laodician age).
  7. KJB is the most printed book in the world and is the standard English text among believers (Being known for hundreds of years as THE Bible).
  8. The KJV is a Reformation or Protestant text. England spread out to the world and helped to form Protestant Christianity in English speaking countries and beyond.
  9. KJB was used to help end slavery (Frederick Douglas, etc.).
  10. Christians were united over one text (i.e, His Word does not return void). They not only were united by one text, but they also believed that the KJV is the inerrant, and perfect words of God throughout history. While they many have disagreed on theology or beliefs over the years, they were united by one text in what it said.
  11. Everyone today in English speaking countries still speaks like the King James Bible (Example: Drop in the bucket, the writing is on the wall, the apple of my eye, etcetera).
  12. The KJV was predicted to be obsolete and replaced by certain Modern Bibles in the 1700’s, 1800’s, and 1900s (But this did not happen). In other words, the KJV has endured the test of time and against much opposition. Today it is still the most attacked translation, and yet many believers still trust and use it today as the very words of God. Many have not caved in to God’s words being like silly putty that can be updated every few years by some new exciting manuscript discovery that radically changes doctrine for the worse and not for the better.

I hope you enjoy Nick’s channel everyone.

May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you all and stay safe.
 
Jul 7, 2022
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I am aware of the King James Bible Research Council.

Phil Stringer is probably my sole favorite on the KJV Research Council.

I did not see all of his videos yet. My favorite videos I seen by him are:

This one…


And this one:

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Nick Sayers has some good videos on false attacks by Textual Critics. He goes into the videos by Mark Ward, and others. They are baseless. Nick Sayers is currently reviewing James White‘s book “King James Only Controversy.” Nick explains in his book how James White miscategorizes KJV-Onlyists. Nick Sayers channel is probably my favorite channel so far on the Bibliology topic (Which defends the TR and KJV).

My view on inspiration is more like “illumination“ according to Job 32:8 in the KJV.
Many Modern Translations remove the word “inspiration” in Job 32:8 and therefore remove the connection to 2 Timothy 3:16.
In short, I believe that the KJV Translators were given select moments of illumination (inspiration) at certain key points in time while translating. God’s providence in his preserving His Word ensured that He would have intervened to give them the understanding (inspiration) for the final words that would end up in the final draft of the KJV. “Double inspiration“ (Peter Ruckman) claims it not only preservation of the original writings but it also communicates new revelation. I don’t exactly agree that this is the case for the 7th purification or final edition of the KJV (Which I believe is the Pure Cambridge KJV edition by A.W. Pollard). I am in disagreement with many of the things Ruckman believes (like his racist claims, his bad mouth, and his odd claims about aliens, and his multiple divorces, etc.).

Glad you are familiar with Dr Stringer.
He has been a wealth of insight. I'll listen to the ones you posted if I haven't already.

I'll probably subscribe to Nick Sayers channel now that I know he has a separate one of his own.

It seems that a very few members of this forum have the mistaken idea that those of us who believe in the true doctrine of preservation are Ruckmanites. They like to throw Bible believers into that box.

I got weird unfounded accusations after I got saved and learned why I should believe the Bible; not knowing where the critics of faith in God's Word were getting those wild false accusations from. Eventually, I learned years later of Peter Ruckman.
Now I see that they took the unbiblical teachings of his to classify the KJ Bible believers as promoters of his heresies.
I have as much time for the false accusers as I do Ruckman. Both camps serve to undermine the faith of the simple.

On the other hand, the King James Research Council does a good job of teaching the truth and equipping the saints.