The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

[DavidTree]

Amen
Good verses.

As a pretribber I also embrace the word of God

AGREE - AMEN to those Promises - not one speaks of pre-trib - not one.

The Scripture cannot lie and the Scripture says "delivered from His wrath" - never pre-trib.

 

[Absolutely]

As usual, no pre-trib found in the Word = Acts 1 rejects the lie of pre-trib

Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel,
who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven?
This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven,
will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”

Immediately after the tribulation of those days:
‘The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’
At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn.
They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Matt 24

Lol

You just said there is a gathering in heaven by angels....not Jesus, and nobody on earth on mentioned.

Busted again

 

[DavidTree]

Lol

You just said there is a gathering in heaven by angels....not Jesus, and nobody on earth on mentioned.

Busted again

You fail to understand the complete Scriptural Picture and you separate to keep your idol from crumbling.

 

[Absolutely]

Dear Brother, you have believed the lie of pre-trib for so long that you mind can no longer "Rightly divide the Word of Truth."

There is a cure and mercy can be found, IF you yield yourself to IT. But, if you hold fast to the idol, the Lord will not rescue you from it.

Very soon, all who have been clinging to th eidol of pre-trib will have there hearts dashed as their idol will be dashed when the Mark is nocking at your door.

Many who name the name of Christ will take that Mark because they will be convinced it isn't.

But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.
Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal:
“The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”

Take notice, the Scripture says "EVERYONE".

No

You need to show where the VERSES are wrong.

Throwing indirect generalities with no verses is conceding you have no point.

You can not respond.

Face it.

I debunked your deal

 

[Absolutely]

You fail to understand the complete Scriptural Picture and you separate to keep your idol from crumbling.

Show me specifically.

Show me verses

You are in ashes with a postrib workbook

 

[DavidTree]

No

You need to show where the VERSES are wrong.

Throwing indirect generalities with no verses is conceding you have no point.

You can not respond.

Face it.

I debunked your deal

I never see the Scripture as wrong.

We, who fear God and bow the knee unto the WORD "do not add to or take away" from His word's.

Scripture cannot lie.

 

[Absolutely]

AGREE - AMEN to those Promises - not one speaks of pre-trib - not one.

The Scripture cannot lie and the Scripture says "delivered from His wrath" - never pre-trib.

They do not point to any eschatology.

I merely agreed to the verses and described myself as a pretribber.

That is all i did.

Never tied in any of his verses

 

[Absolutely]

I never see the Scripture as wrong.

We, who fear God and bow the knee unto the WORD "do not add to or take away" from His word's.

Scripture cannot lie.

Yep

 

[Absolutely]

No

You need to show where the VERSES are wrong.

Throwing indirect generalities with no verses is conceding you have no point.

You can not respond.

Face it.

I debunked your deal

Still waiting
no verses from him

 

[DavidTree]

Show me specifically.

Show me verses

You are in ashes with a postrib workbook

We have been showing you since day 1 and you are arguing against all that "it is written".

To correctly understand, everyone must submit unto God and only then will the lies of the devil be removed from our mind and hearts.

This applies to everyone of us.

 

[Absolutely]

Show me specifically.

Show me verses

You are in ashes with a postrib workbook

Correct

I still am waiting to see him reconcile any verses

 

[DavidTree]

Still waiting
no verses from him

Start here = Matthew 24 where the LORD JESUS CHRIST says HE is Coming after the Tribulation.

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[Absolutely]

We have been showing you since day 1 and you are arguing against all that "it is written".

To correctly understand, everyone must submit unto God and only then will the lies of the devil be removed from our mind and hearts.

This applies to everyone of us.

No
You have never unpacked any postrib verses....as i have demonstrated.

Go concept for concept.
Debunk the pretrib verses.

Go for it

 

[Absolutely]

Start here = Matthew 24 where the LORD JESUS CHRIST says HE is Coming after the Tribulation.

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Uh
We both agree he comes post wrath at the end of the 7 years.

That is in no way the rapture.

You have yet to unpack the setting of the RAPTURE ,or lot and noah.

 

[DavidTree]

Uh
We both agree he comes post wrath at the end of the 7 years.

That is in no way the rapture.

You have yet to unpack the setting of the RAPTURE ,or lot and noah.

#1 Error you constantly make = twisting Scripture by saying the Tribulation is God's wrath.

 

[Absolutely]

Start here = Matthew 24 where the LORD JESUS CHRIST says HE is Coming after the Tribulation.

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

AND
please do include the time frame shift for noah and the "one taken/left.

Hint

" Before" something

Before the flood

 

[DavidTree]

AND
please do include the time frame shift for noah and the "one taken/left.

Hint

" Before" something

Before the flood

the Flood was the wrath of God. - it was not Tribulation - Tribulation in and of the world always preceeds God's wrath.

 

[Absolutely]

#1 Error you constantly make = twisting Scripture by saying the Tribulation is God's wrath.

Show me

Prove it

 

[Absolutely]

the Flood was the wrath of God. - it was not Tribulation - Tribulation in and of the world always preceeds God's wrath.

The only way that works is you need noah delivered mid trib.

I assume That's what you are attempting to do.

You think the 4 horsemen, the mark. And plagues associated with the horsemen in the gt are like normal life's tribulation correct?

And the same for lot correct?

You apparently place the rapture and the white horses coming mid trib ( 3.5 years into the gt) correct?

 

[Absolutely]

the Flood was the wrath of God. - it was not Tribulation - Tribulation in and of the world always preceeds God's wrath.

Really

Always.

Prove it.