The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???
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1 Timothy 4:1-3- Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
Here verse 1 is related to show timothy about wrong teachings of false teacher. From verse 3-4, verse 1 is more clear. (How do you relate it to rupture?)- It does not say anything about last day.
From 1 John 2:14- I see that this part was written for them who already know God. From verse 18 I see that antichrists are already there, and from verse 26 I see that John was warning the 1st Readers about false teaches. So this antichrist was actually false teachers.
From these verses I know that end time is running for 2000 years, my question is how do you relate these verses to judgment day or rupture, because I don’t see John is relating. If John is not relating his letter 1st John with Thessalonian or 1 Timothy than why do I have to do it?
2 Thessalonian was written for Thessalonian church.
1 Timothy was written for Ephesus (1:3), especially for Timothy.
I don’t know for whom 1 John was written.
It seems like If I combine 2 thess and 1 Timothy than I am combining a letter written for me and a letter written for you. Actually I am not getting it from your perspective. Will you please explain me further to clear my mind? Thank you my dear friend.
Here verse 1 is related to show timothy about wrong teachings of false teacher. From verse 3-4, verse 1 is more clear. (How do you relate it to rupture?)- It does not say anything about last day.
From 1 John 2:14- I see that this part was written for them who already know God. From verse 18 I see that antichrists are already there, and from verse 26 I see that John was warning the 1st Readers about false teaches. So this antichrist was actually false teachers.
From these verses I know that end time is running for 2000 years, my question is how do you relate these verses to judgment day or rupture, because I don’t see John is relating. If John is not relating his letter 1st John with Thessalonian or 1 Timothy than why do I have to do it?
2 Thessalonian was written for Thessalonian church.
1 Timothy was written for Ephesus (1:3), especially for Timothy.
I don’t know for whom 1 John was written.
It seems like If I combine 2 thess and 1 Timothy than I am combining a letter written for me and a letter written for you. Actually I am not getting it from your perspective. Will you please explain me further to clear my mind? Thank you my dear friend.
1 Timothy 4:1-3- Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
Here verse 1 is related to show timothy about wrong teachings of false teacher. From verse 3-4, verse 1 is more clear. (How do you relate it to rupture?)- It does not say anything about last day.
From 1 John 2:14- I see that this part was written for them who already know God. From verse 18 I see that antichrists are already there, and from verse 26 I see that John was warning the 1st Readers about false teaches. So this antichrist was actually false teachers.
From these verses I know that end time is running for 2000 years, my question is how do you relate these verses to judgment day or rupture, because I don’t see John is relating. If John is not relating his letter 1st John with Thessalonian or 1 Timothy than why do I have to do it?
2 Thessalonian was written for Thessalonian church.
1 Timothy was written for Ephesus (1:3), especially for Timothy.
I don’t know for whom 1 John was written.
It seems like If I combine 2 thess and 1 Timothy than I am combining a letter written for me and a letter written for you. Actually I am not getting it from your perspective. Will you please explain me further to clear my mind? Thank you my dear friend.
Here verse 1 is related to show timothy about wrong teachings of false teacher. From verse 3-4, verse 1 is more clear. (How do you relate it to rupture?)- It does not say anything about last day.
From 1 John 2:14- I see that this part was written for them who already know God. From verse 18 I see that antichrists are already there, and from verse 26 I see that John was warning the 1st Readers about false teaches. So this antichrist was actually false teachers.
From these verses I know that end time is running for 2000 years, my question is how do you relate these verses to judgment day or rupture, because I don’t see John is relating. If John is not relating his letter 1st John with Thessalonian or 1 Timothy than why do I have to do it?
2 Thessalonian was written for Thessalonian church.
1 Timothy was written for Ephesus (1:3), especially for Timothy.
I don’t know for whom 1 John was written.
It seems like If I combine 2 thess and 1 Timothy than I am combining a letter written for me and a letter written for you. Actually I am not getting it from your perspective. Will you please explain me further to clear my mind? Thank you my dear friend.
The End Times began when our Lord ascended to the Father and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit was poured out on Pentecost.
Just as the Apostle John wrote: Little children - IT IS the Last Hour................
i am working - we will talk again.
1 Timothy 4:1-3- Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
Here verse 1 is related to show timothy about wrong teachings of false teacher. From verse 3-4, verse 1 is more clear. (How do you relate it to rupture?)- It does not say anything about last day.
From 1 John 2:14- I see that this part was written for them who already know God. From verse 18 I see that antichrists are already there, and from verse 26 I see that John was warning the 1st Readers about false teaches. So this antichrist was actually false teachers.
From these verses I know that end time is running for 2000 years, my question is how do you relate these verses to judgment day or rupture, because I don’t see John is relating. If John is not relating his letter 1st John with Thessalonian or 1 Timothy than why do I have to do it?
2 Thessalonian was written for Thessalonian church.
1 Timothy was written for Ephesus (1:3), especially for Timothy.
I don’t know for whom 1 John was written.
It seems like If I combine 2 thess and 1 Timothy than I am combining a letter written for me and a letter written for you. Actually I am not getting it from your perspective. Will you please explain me further to clear my mind? Thank you my dear friend.
Here verse 1 is related to show timothy about wrong teachings of false teacher. From verse 3-4, verse 1 is more clear. (How do you relate it to rupture?)- It does not say anything about last day.
From 1 John 2:14- I see that this part was written for them who already know God. From verse 18 I see that antichrists are already there, and from verse 26 I see that John was warning the 1st Readers about false teaches. So this antichrist was actually false teachers.
From these verses I know that end time is running for 2000 years, my question is how do you relate these verses to judgment day or rupture, because I don’t see John is relating. If John is not relating his letter 1st John with Thessalonian or 1 Timothy than why do I have to do it?
2 Thessalonian was written for Thessalonian church.
1 Timothy was written for Ephesus (1:3), especially for Timothy.
I don’t know for whom 1 John was written.
It seems like If I combine 2 thess and 1 Timothy than I am combining a letter written for me and a letter written for you. Actually I am not getting it from your perspective. Will you please explain me further to clear my mind? Thank you my dear friend.
The Books of the Bible are not to be misconstrued as being separate from one another.
The collection of Scripture has One Author from Beginning to End - from Genesis to Revelation.
For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty. For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
1 Peter 1:16-21
When you read the Bible - always pray and ask for the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, to assist you in understanding.
Do not let carnal minded men who rely on their intellectual academia to interpret Scripture for you.
There is only one Interpreter = The Holy Spirit
I agree with you that there is one interpreter. But than how do you or I will know that I am interpreting in right way? How will I know that the spirit interpreting is Holy spirit? NT was combined may years later, So without context of the Whole Bible + context of the Book + context of the passage How will one interpret? How will I know my intellectually is not guided by holy spirit?
Be careful of this latest term 'context' - it is heavily used by religious men.
the WHOLE of Scripture is the KEY - The Theme of the Gospel & Holy Spirit, is woven throughout from Genesis to Revelation.
How will you know??? - Everyone must follow this Eternal Commandment:
Deuteronomy 4:1-2 - Hear now, O Israel, the statutes and ordinances I am teaching you to follow, so that you may live and may enter and take possession of the land that the LORD, the God of your fathers, is giving you.
You must not add to or subtract from what I command you, so that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God that I am giving you.
Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
Revelation 22:18-19
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
This Eternal Commandment is the Entrance Way on the straight and narrow Path.
But More is needed - "Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ Says the LORD of hosts."
Now dwell on this and then get back to me - PEACE
the WHOLE of Scripture is the KEY - The Theme of the Gospel & Holy Spirit, is woven throughout from Genesis to Revelation.
How will you know??? - Everyone must follow this Eternal Commandment:
Deuteronomy 4:1-2 - Hear now, O Israel, the statutes and ordinances I am teaching you to follow, so that you may live and may enter and take possession of the land that the LORD, the God of your fathers, is giving you.
You must not add to or subtract from what I command you, so that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God that I am giving you.
Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
Revelation 22:18-19
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
This Eternal Commandment is the Entrance Way on the straight and narrow Path.
But More is needed - "Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ Says the LORD of hosts."
Now dwell on this and then get back to me - PEACE
Deuteronomy 4:1-2 - You must not add to or subtract from what I command you, (In here you= israel not us. And for them the law was the commandments. for us law is- believing Christ, love God, love neighbors and sharing gospel to all. I agree that I must not add or subtract like Pharisees.)
Proverbs 30:5-6- I agree with you. I must not add anything to his words, even I must not add my narration/theology to it without understanding Gods heart. I must not say my theology is from God. But to understand Gods word, I need some Gods given intellectuality.
Revelation 22:18-19- If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy. Here when John is telling about "these things, in this book, the book of this prophecy" He is not telling about the Whole Bible, He is just telling about the book of revelation that we must not add or take anything from the book revelation, we must not take away any word from revelation, The new testament was not combined yet at Johns time. So it clearly showing me John is not telling me about Whole Bible but Only the book revelations prophecy.
*** Our God is a God of reality and spirituality. Would you mind explain me more in light of reality and spirituality? not only in light of spirituality? Thank you.
Proverbs 30:5-6- I agree with you. I must not add anything to his words, even I must not add my narration/theology to it without understanding Gods heart. I must not say my theology is from God. But to understand Gods word, I need some Gods given intellectuality.
Revelation 22:18-19- If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy. Here when John is telling about "these things, in this book, the book of this prophecy" He is not telling about the Whole Bible, He is just telling about the book of revelation that we must not add or take anything from the book revelation, we must not take away any word from revelation, The new testament was not combined yet at Johns time. So it clearly showing me John is not telling me about Whole Bible but Only the book revelations prophecy.
*** Our God is a God of reality and spirituality. Would you mind explain me more in light of reality and spirituality? not only in light of spirituality? Thank you.
Incorrect - conclusions - The LORD says "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God".
Did i not say be careful of the carnal use of "context" which removes the clear teaching/commands of God.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Tim 3:16
Deuteronomy 4:1-2 is repeated throughout Scripture = "Do not add or take away from God's words"
The LORD Himself repeated Deuteronomy 4:1-2 to us : Matthew 7:13-14
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."
What you need is the baptism of the Holy Spirit = Read study, pray Gospel of John. When you you do go right to Acts and do same.
Did i not say be careful of the carnal use of "context" which removes the clear teaching/commands of God.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Tim 3:16
Deuteronomy 4:1-2 is repeated throughout Scripture = "Do not add or take away from God's words"
The LORD Himself repeated Deuteronomy 4:1-2 to us : Matthew 7:13-14
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."
What you need is the baptism of the Holy Spirit = Read study, pray Gospel of John. When you you do go right to Acts and do same.
Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight.
10And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel,
11who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven?
This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”
Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Matt 26:64
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
10And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel,
11who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven?
This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”
Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Matt 26:64
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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1st of all- What is the meaning of Word of God to you?
From Bible I know- Word of God means
1) Jesus is the Word of God. He in eternal, So we must not change him. He is alpha and Omega.
2) Words spoken by God through Prophets in old testament, Words spoken directly through Jesus Christ. (It was already translated by gospel writer's from Aramaic to Greek cause Jesus speak in Aramaic.)
3) The whole Bible which is inspired by Holy spirit. (I don't know it is eternal or not cause it started with a new earth, finishes with a new earth in revelation.) But I do know Gods word Jesus is eternal and will not change.
So I dont know what do you mean by conclusions - The LORD says "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God". 1,2 or 3. If Jesus is the word here I am OK with that.
secondly- How do you know without the background of the Books your teaching is correct? I should not narrate that you are very good person because you have done this and this. before evaluating you I need to know your background or else my evaluation will be wrong cause it is imaginary not practical. you can do good things because of bad motivation.
Thirdly- 2 Tim 3:16- In here it means the Old testament + letters cause back than there was no compiled new testament. But If you make a doctrine without understanding the nature of God and if the doctrine is opposite of Gods nature, than the doctrine might sound very good but not Godly. Its not biblical. Seems good doctrine does not makes it Biblical doctrine.
4thly- Deuteronomy 4:1-2- If you read thoroughly throughout the chapter, you will see God is telling about the commands that need to be follow. Its not about prophecy. So prophecy is important, but obeying command is more important.
5th- Matthew 7:13-14- exactly- we need to follow the narrow path. Without obeying Gods command if we focus on prophecy than we are not in the narrow path(Just My opinion, its not in the bible- cause God focuses on obeying commands not prophecy.)
6th- We Need Jesus. Then Holy spirit will follow if we allow him. (Where it says we need Holy spirits baptism to be saved? can you tell me please? I will look at it. Please do not take only 1 or 2 verse and narrate it without Gods nature.)
Holy spirit will help me to understand God more. He will help me to know if I am wrong. But If I am stubborn, than His help will not change me. I am aware of that. So I am open to you. If you can show me the words and narrates it collaborating with the background of that book and Gods heart in it. I am totally open to agree with you. (I want to see if it fits with Gods heart not human heart)
Thank you. Your writings are very helpful for me to study bible more. Please do response. I will learn more about your believe system. Thank you again. God bless you.
From Bible I know- Word of God means
1) Jesus is the Word of God. He in eternal, So we must not change him. He is alpha and Omega.
2) Words spoken by God through Prophets in old testament, Words spoken directly through Jesus Christ. (It was already translated by gospel writer's from Aramaic to Greek cause Jesus speak in Aramaic.)
3) The whole Bible which is inspired by Holy spirit. (I don't know it is eternal or not cause it started with a new earth, finishes with a new earth in revelation.) But I do know Gods word Jesus is eternal and will not change.
So I dont know what do you mean by conclusions - The LORD says "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God". 1,2 or 3. If Jesus is the word here I am OK with that.
secondly- How do you know without the background of the Books your teaching is correct? I should not narrate that you are very good person because you have done this and this. before evaluating you I need to know your background or else my evaluation will be wrong cause it is imaginary not practical. you can do good things because of bad motivation.
Thirdly- 2 Tim 3:16- In here it means the Old testament + letters cause back than there was no compiled new testament. But If you make a doctrine without understanding the nature of God and if the doctrine is opposite of Gods nature, than the doctrine might sound very good but not Godly. Its not biblical. Seems good doctrine does not makes it Biblical doctrine.
4thly- Deuteronomy 4:1-2- If you read thoroughly throughout the chapter, you will see God is telling about the commands that need to be follow. Its not about prophecy. So prophecy is important, but obeying command is more important.
5th- Matthew 7:13-14- exactly- we need to follow the narrow path. Without obeying Gods command if we focus on prophecy than we are not in the narrow path(Just My opinion, its not in the bible- cause God focuses on obeying commands not prophecy.)
6th- We Need Jesus. Then Holy spirit will follow if we allow him. (Where it says we need Holy spirits baptism to be saved? can you tell me please? I will look at it. Please do not take only 1 or 2 verse and narrate it without Gods nature.)
Holy spirit will help me to understand God more. He will help me to know if I am wrong. But If I am stubborn, than His help will not change me. I am aware of that. So I am open to you. If you can show me the words and narrates it collaborating with the background of that book and Gods heart in it. I am totally open to agree with you. (I want to see if it fits with Gods heart not human heart)
Thank you. Your writings are very helpful for me to study bible more. Please do response. I will learn more about your believe system. Thank you again.
God bless you.
1st of all- What is the meaning of Word of God to you?
From Bible I know- Word of God means
1) Jesus is the Word of God. He in eternal, So we must not change him. He is alpha and Omega.
2) Words spoken by God through Prophets in old testament, Words spoken directly through Jesus Christ. (It was already translated by gospel writer's from Aramaic to Greek cause Jesus speak in Aramaic.)
3) The whole Bible which is inspired by Holy spirit. (I don't know it is eternal or not cause it started with a new earth, finishes with a new earth in revelation.) But I do know Gods word Jesus is eternal and will not change.
So I dont know what do you mean by conclusions - The LORD says "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God". 1,2 or 3. If Jesus is the word here I am OK with that.
secondly- How do you know without the background of the Books your teaching is correct? I should not narrate that you are very good person because you have done this and this. before evaluating you I need to know your background or else my evaluation will be wrong cause it is imaginary not practical. you can do good things because of bad motivation.
Thirdly- 2 Tim 3:16- In here it means the Old testament + letters cause back than there was no compiled new testament. But If you make a doctrine without understanding the nature of God and if the doctrine is opposite of Gods nature, than the doctrine might sound very good but not Godly. Its not biblical. Seems good doctrine does not makes it Biblical doctrine.
4thly- Deuteronomy 4:1-2- If you read thoroughly throughout the chapter, you will see God is telling about the commands that need to be follow. Its not about prophecy. So prophecy is important, but obeying command is more important.
5th- Matthew 7:13-14- exactly- we need to follow the narrow path. Without obeying Gods command if we focus on prophecy than we are not in the narrow path(Just My opinion, its not in the bible- cause God focuses on obeying commands not prophecy.)
6th- We Need Jesus. Then Holy spirit will follow if we allow him. (Where it says we need Holy spirits baptism to be saved? can you tell me please? I will look at it. Please do not take only 1 or 2 verse and narrate it without Gods nature.)
Holy spirit will help me to understand God more. He will help me to know if I am wrong. But If I am stubborn, than His help will not change me. I am aware of that. So I am open to you. If you can show me the words and narrates it collaborating with the background of that book and Gods heart in it. I am totally open to agree with you. (I want to see if it fits with Gods heart not human heart)
Thank you. Your writings are very helpful for me to study bible more. Please do response. I will learn more about your believe system. Thank you again. God bless you.
From Bible I know- Word of God means
1) Jesus is the Word of God. He in eternal, So we must not change him. He is alpha and Omega.
2) Words spoken by God through Prophets in old testament, Words spoken directly through Jesus Christ. (It was already translated by gospel writer's from Aramaic to Greek cause Jesus speak in Aramaic.)
3) The whole Bible which is inspired by Holy spirit. (I don't know it is eternal or not cause it started with a new earth, finishes with a new earth in revelation.) But I do know Gods word Jesus is eternal and will not change.
So I dont know what do you mean by conclusions - The LORD says "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God". 1,2 or 3. If Jesus is the word here I am OK with that.
secondly- How do you know without the background of the Books your teaching is correct? I should not narrate that you are very good person because you have done this and this. before evaluating you I need to know your background or else my evaluation will be wrong cause it is imaginary not practical. you can do good things because of bad motivation.
Thirdly- 2 Tim 3:16- In here it means the Old testament + letters cause back than there was no compiled new testament. But If you make a doctrine without understanding the nature of God and if the doctrine is opposite of Gods nature, than the doctrine might sound very good but not Godly. Its not biblical. Seems good doctrine does not makes it Biblical doctrine.
4thly- Deuteronomy 4:1-2- If you read thoroughly throughout the chapter, you will see God is telling about the commands that need to be follow. Its not about prophecy. So prophecy is important, but obeying command is more important.
5th- Matthew 7:13-14- exactly- we need to follow the narrow path. Without obeying Gods command if we focus on prophecy than we are not in the narrow path(Just My opinion, its not in the bible- cause God focuses on obeying commands not prophecy.)
6th- We Need Jesus. Then Holy spirit will follow if we allow him. (Where it says we need Holy spirits baptism to be saved? can you tell me please? I will look at it. Please do not take only 1 or 2 verse and narrate it without Gods nature.)
Holy spirit will help me to understand God more. He will help me to know if I am wrong. But If I am stubborn, than His help will not change me. I am aware of that. So I am open to you. If you can show me the words and narrates it collaborating with the background of that book and Gods heart in it. I am totally open to agree with you. (I want to see if it fits with Gods heart not human heart)
Thank you. Your writings are very helpful for me to study bible more. Please do response. I will learn more about your believe system. Thank you again.
God bless you.
#2 - never add to God's words or mine - you did this in your post here - Deut 4:1-2 focus is not about prophecy - stay with the 2 verses
#3 - Deut 4:1-2 is a Eternal Commandment as is Proverbs 30:5-6 and Rev 22:18-19 and Matt 7:13-14 goes along with this Harmony of Scripture in order to follow, obey and understand God.
THIRDLY - where did you ever come up with this idea/statement ?????
#6 - Where did i ever say you need the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to be saved? - no where
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is part of God's will for every Believer in Christ
The thief on the cross next to Jesus who said "remember me...." received Christ and was saved that day as he died.
He did not receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit - yet was saved.
#7 - "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away." - Luke 21:33
You will do very good in religion school that rely's solely on one's intellectual achievements when studying the Bible.
1) I do know you believe in Gods word, that's great. But Gods word has 3 meaning. So you didn't tell me The verses you gave me where Gods word means what? cause If Gods word meaning is Jesus in that verse- and you put your meaning "sentence of bible"- your narration will be wrong.
2) It clearly shows in Deute 4:1-2 that moses was telling Israel's about Gods command not prophecy. I am not adding here, you dont want to see here. + If you do not take the whole scene you will not see the big picture and your narration will be partial(which is incomplete). Can you tell me Why I should I believe in your partial statement? God is not partial.
3) here again you are only those verse by which you can make your point- in Proverb 30:1-4- especially 3,4 indicates Jesus. So you can say verse 5,6 is Word of God jesus, so dont add anything to Jesys that I agree.
thirdly- You are assuming that when 2nd timothy was written full bible was compiled, and you are narrating according to that assumption. From that I am stating.
6)- My mistake. I and you were not in the same page here. Sorry, I did not understand you here. My bad.
7) exactly - His word(Jesus will not pass away). According to bible we know that everything Jesus said or did and God said in OT is not in the Bible. So his word will not pass away does not mean the sentences he told us. Its Him Jesus The word not pass away.
*** I have a question for you dear brother. If God were here and sees you that you are thinking more about rapture, tribulation than sharing gospel to others or helping others to know God than will he be happy or not? I agree that God does tell us about Second coming. He did told us about tribulation- but what does God want? Tribulation or his children? Just a thought? where are we focusing?
*** Does our thought making us godly or angry? arrogant or less arrogant? stable or unstable in Godly nature?
Thank you again for you response.
2) It clearly shows in Deute 4:1-2 that moses was telling Israel's about Gods command not prophecy. I am not adding here, you dont want to see here. + If you do not take the whole scene you will not see the big picture and your narration will be partial(which is incomplete). Can you tell me Why I should I believe in your partial statement? God is not partial.
3) here again you are only those verse by which you can make your point- in Proverb 30:1-4- especially 3,4 indicates Jesus. So you can say verse 5,6 is Word of God jesus, so dont add anything to Jesys that I agree.
thirdly- You are assuming that when 2nd timothy was written full bible was compiled, and you are narrating according to that assumption. From that I am stating.
6)- My mistake. I and you were not in the same page here. Sorry, I did not understand you here. My bad.
7) exactly - His word(Jesus will not pass away). According to bible we know that everything Jesus said or did and God said in OT is not in the Bible. So his word will not pass away does not mean the sentences he told us. Its Him Jesus The word not pass away.
*** I have a question for you dear brother. If God were here and sees you that you are thinking more about rapture, tribulation than sharing gospel to others or helping others to know God than will he be happy or not? I agree that God does tell us about Second coming. He did told us about tribulation- but what does God want? Tribulation or his children? Just a thought? where are we focusing?
*** Does our thought making us godly or angry? arrogant or less arrogant? stable or unstable in Godly nature?
Thank you again for you response.