The First Resurrection

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Why pick out one verse? The others too much for you? The whole of Rom 6.2-22 is about PRESENT experience 'As Christ was raised from the dead -- that we too might walk in newness of life. ' Isn't that clear enough for you.?

Reckon yourself to be dead to sin but ALIVE TO GOD through Jesus Christ our LORD (Rom 6.11). To become alive after death is RESURRECTION.

If you have been RAISED WITH CHRIST (Col 3.1). Who does this refer to?

Just admit it, you're wrong (some hopes on here lol)
I only mentioned Romans 6:5 because that is the only one that has the word resurrection. None of the other verses you provided refer to the resurrection (awakening), but they do refer to a quickening of the spirit.
 

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Hi crossnote,

The NIV and other translations give a better understand as the following demonstrates:

"They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection."

"This is the first resurrection" is referring back to those who came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years and not to those who come to life at the end of the thousand years.

"Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them"

Those who come to life at the end of the thousand years are shown to be the unrighteous dead, that and the fact that their spirits are being released out of Hades.
What an awkward way to state it since there was no punctuation in the early Greek.
 

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"But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection".

The dead are the 'dead in Christ'. When Christ died for our sins, it was just as if we had died but he took our place. We are dead with him in that respect (Romans 6:4, Col 2:12). It is not describing the unsaved. That is why the dead are said to live again. The unsaved never live again. When the verse says that the dead live again it means that they are born again to a new life in Christ. It means they become saved. The first resurrection is when Christ rose from the dead. He was the first to rise. When he did so he led captivity captive and gave gifts of new life to men he planned to save. The verse talks about the time period when Satan is bound. Satan is bound during the church age so that he cannot deceive those who are to be saved from believing. The Holy Spirit is the seal that prevents Satan from deceiving people away from salvation at that time. The Holy Spirit allows those who are saved to stay saved. They have a part in the first resurrection (the resurrection of Christ) because it was his atoning death and resurrection which gave them new life in Christ. They are blessed (meaning saved) and holy (meaning Christ paid for their sins). The church age is described as a period of a thousand years, the time when Satan is bound. The thousand years is not a literal thousand years any more than the parable of the ten virgins is a picture of only 5 persons who will ever be saved or 5 who will not. Rather, like the parable of the virgins, numbers have parable meanings in the Bible and are not always literal. The ten virgins were a picture of many persons and the thousand years is simply a particular time period. In the same book of Revelation there are 2 witnesses. This number also is a parable number describing more true believers than just two persons, if you see what I mean.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The thrones that you ask about is simply saying that those who are saved rule and reign with Christ in the spiritual sense as soon as they become saved. We are seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. We do not worship the God of false religion, but the real God.

The talk about beheading that you ask about is describing how Satan enters into the people of the congregations of the church age and proclaims himself as the head of the congregations and his idea of the Bible and the gospel is what is followed. He rejects true believers and their true gospel and so the Bible uses the terminology of removing the head, Christ, from the true believers. Of course, they still have Christ as their true head, despite being rejected by the congregations. In much the same way, this terminology is used for John the baptist, whose actual head was removed to illustrate this.

The second death that you ask about is describing how those persons who are unsaved (who have already died spiritually once like all people as a result of man's sin) die later when they are permantly destroyed (cease to exist). It is as if fire burns up the people and they are no more. Fire is a parable word in the Bible for God's judgment rather than life. Jesus himself was a burnt offering in that sense. Anyhow, those who are saved once they are born again, never die again, so there is no destruction for them afterwards, no second death. Sure, their physical body may die at whatever age they live to be, but the real born again them goes on and on forever amazingly, thanks to Jesus who ever lives to interceed for them.
A body-less resurrection?
 

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I only mentioned Romans 6:5 because that is the only one that has the word resurrection. None of the other verses you provided refer to the resurrection (awakening), but they do refer to a quickening of the spirit.
'As Christ was raised from the dead -- that we too might walk in newness of life. ' The reasoning is clear. Christ raised from the dead - we ALSO walk in newness of life. Isn't that clear enough for you.?

Reckon yourself to be dead to sin but ALIVE TO GOD through Jesus Christ our LORD (Rom 6.11). To become alive after death is RESURRECTION.

If you have been RAISED WITH CHRIST (Col 3.1). Who does this refer to?

So being raised with Christ so that we can set our minds on things above doesn't refer to resurrection? What then can it possibly mean? lol You are just closing your eyes to the truth.
 

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A body-less resurrection?
Don't you believe that your dead spirit has been made alive (resurrected) in Christ? Then it has been resurrected. This is the first resurrection, our resurrection with Christ. See John 5.24-25.
 
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Don't you believe that your dead spirit has been made alive (resurrected) in Christ? Then it has been resurrected. This is the first resurrection, our resurrection with Christ. See John 5.24-25.
Spirits are quickened, not resurrected.
 

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Spirits are quickened, not resurrected.
lol quickened means 'made alive from the dead'. That IS resurrection lol

you are simply too bogged down in bodily resurrection. We call it bodily to distinguish it from spiritual lol

just accept Paul's definition 'you have been raised with Christ'. (Col 3.1) That IS resurrection
 
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What an awkward way to state it since there was no punctuation in the early Greek.
Yeah, I agree. The best way to understand this, is that verse 5 is a parenthetic pause, an interjection. Here is the entire verse:

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. (NASB)

It should read like the following:

Based on the rest of the context it should read thus: and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years, this is the first resurrection.The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed.


This is how the NLT has it:

"They all came to life again, and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5This is the first resurrection. (The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years had ended.)

NIV
They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

If we read the entire context, at the coming of Christ and after Satan is bound in the Abyss, John sees those those who were beheaded being resurrected of whom it is said that they will rule with Christ a thousand years, which would put their resurrection at the beginning of the thousand years. That being said, it is obvious that these are the righteous, in fact, this is a resurrection of the great tribulation saints. We know this because they are mentioned as having not worshiped the beast, his image and not receiving his mark, ergo, the reason for their beheadings. These are those who take part in the first resurrection.

Then in verse 5 we have the mention of the rest of the dead not coming to life until the thousand years have ended, which is described in detail starting at Rev.20:11. These people are referred to as "the dead, great and small" which is not a reference to the "the dead in Christ" but to the unrighteous dead, those who died in their sins, which is why they are being released from death and Hades. In support of this, according to Paul, at the time of death a believer's spirit departs and goes immediately to be in the presence of Christ (2 Cor.5:8, Phil.1:23) and therefore, these people who are being resurrected out of Hades can in no wise be the faithful. Remember, Hades is the same place where that rich man was/is in torment in flame, which should be another clue that these coming out of Hades are not the righteous nor are they partaking in the first resurrection and that because, "Blessed and holy are those who take part in the first resurrection." I would also point out that death and Hades are both thrown into the lake of fire, which is where all of these people will be let out of.

Beginning of the Millennium:
At the beginning of the millennial period and after Satan is bound, then the resurrection of the great tribulation saints takes place, which is a part of the first resurrection. The rest of the dead do not come to life until the thousand years have ended.

End of the Millennium:
At the end of the thousand years, I saw "the dead, both great and small" standing before the throne. These are those of whom it was said, "the rest of the dead did not come to life until after the thousand years were ended"

The church will have been resurrected and caught up prior to the events of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, which are the wrath of God. The Great tribulation saints are those who become saints during the time of God's wrath and during the beasts reign and are killed because of their testimony for Jesus and the word of God and who will not have worshiped the beast, his image and will have not received his mark. This group is resurrected after Jesus returns to end the age as seen in Rev.20:4.

The rest of the dead that do not come to life until the thousand years have ended, are the unrighteous dead throughout all history who have been accumulating in Hades. These are those who died without faith and will be resurrected out of death and Hades and will stand before God at the great white throne judgment. The books that are opened contain all of the deeds of their sins that they themselves will be held accountable for because of lack of faith and because of rejecting Christ. Anyone whose name is not found in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire.

I hope that this helps clear things up
 
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Spirits are quickened, not resurrected.
Good day HeRose,

As I have plainly made clear to Valiant in earlier posts, the word "Anastasis" translated "Resurrection" always and only refers to a bodily resurrection. There is no such thing as a spiritual resurrection. Here is Strong's definition of the word:

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386 anástasis (from 303 /aná, "up, again" and 2476 /hístēmi, "to stand") – literally, "stand up" (or "stand again"), referring to physical resurrection (of the body).

Christ's physical resurrection is the foundation of Christianity, which also guarantees the future resurrection of all believers (see Jn 6:39,40,44).

[386 /anástasis ("resurrection") refers to the physical, bodily resurrection of Christ – and people (both of the redeemed and the unredeemed).]

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As you can see from the definition of the word anastasis, it always refers to the physical body standing up again. Jesus is our example in that, when the women went to the tomb they didn't find his body. When the Jewish leaders went to Pilot after Christ's crucifixion, they asked him for a guard so that the disciples wouldn't come steal his body and then claim that the he had resurrected. When Christ appeared behind locked doors to his disciples they were afraid that they had seen a spirit, of which he said, "a spirit does not have flesh and bone as you see I have." And regarding the prophecy of Christ's resurrection which says, "You will not abandon me to the grave. You will not allow your Holy One to see decay." Bodies decay, spirits don't.
 

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The main problem most have in interpreting Rev.20 is with not understanding what timing it is. It is after... the resurrection like someone said, and it MUST include also the "resurrection unto damnation" that our Lord Jesus showed in John 5:28-29 will also... occur on the day of His coming.

Many times here I've tried to explain a detail about the resurrection in 1 Cor.15 by Apostle Paul that many miss. The unsaved dead are resurrected at Christ's coming also, to the body of incorruption, which is about our outward image likeness in the heavenly dimension. They will have that type of body also, but... their souls will still be in a liable to perish state, not having put on immortality through Christ Jesus (i.e, not "born again"). This is why Paul showed TWO changes must occur to have Salvation in Christ per the 1 Cor.15:54 Scripture, this corruptible must put on incorruption, AND this mortal must put on immortality.

That is how and why the "resurrection of damnation" will be raised also on the day of Jesus' coming per John 5:28-29, and the wicked that are still alive on the day of Jesus' coming are also changed to the "spiritual body", but still with dead souls ("this mortal" part). Most Churches teach that the resurrection of 1 Cor.15 is ONLY for Christ's Church. They forget what God showed in Isaiah 25 where Paul was pulling from about death being swallowed up in victory.

Thus when the Millennium of Rev.20 begins with Christ's reign with His elect priests and kings of the "first resurrection", the ONLY possible type of death remaining will be the "second death", which is the casting into the "lake of fire" at the end of the thousand years. All will be in the "spiritual body". The first death is about death of the flesh, the "second death" is about destruction of one's spirit with soul in the lake of fire.

Isaiah 24 reveals that the kings of the earth and the host of the high ones shall also be locked in the pit with Satan for that thousand years:

Isa 24:20-22
20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
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Ezekiel 44 is about that timing also, the Zadok (The Just) being a name for those who reign with Christ and only are allowed to approach and serve Him at His table. It mentions the unsaved standing in judgment during that time. And they will be taught doctrine and the difference between the profane and the clean. It shows for the sake of a dead loved one, a relative, they may go outside and pollute themselves for their sake, but when coming back into the temple they must go through a purification ritual. So Ezekiel 44 is using the "dead" idea also about the spiritual dead unsaved in that time.

Rev.22:14-15, our Lord Jesus showed us where the wicked and unsaved will be in that time; i.e., outside the gates of the holy city, while His elect will be inside and have right to the tree of life. That's the nations of Rev.20 outside the "camp of the saints" and "beloved city" of Rev.20:9.

At the end of the thousand years, the GWT Judgment will take place, and will look for any names that are written in the Book of Life, with those not found written going into the lake of fire. That... is pointing to ANOTHER RESURRECTION UNTO LIFE through Christ Jesus of all those who's names are found written at that Judgment. Thus the implied second resurrection is actually about the dead during the thousand years that come to Christ Jesus and believe, their liable to die souls putting on immortality in Christ Jesus.
 

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Don't you believe that your dead spirit has been made alive (resurrected) in Christ? Then it has been resurrected. This is the first resurrection, our resurrection with Christ. See John 5.24-25.
Your take.
Resurrection is not complete without a body.
 

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Your take.
Resurrection is not complete without a body.
It is participation in Christ's resurrection in the body. I have risen together with Christ. I don't know about you.
 

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Good day HeRose,

As I have plainly made clear to Valiant in earlier posts, the word "Anastasis" translated "Resurrection" always and only refers to a bodily resurrection.
That's strange in my Bible it is used in Luke 2.34 of spiritual rising. It is used by LXX in Lam 3.63 of rising up in contrast with sitting down; in Zech 3.8 of 'I will cause to rise up my servant the Branch'; in Josephus of the raising of a statue. So it is not quite so plain LOL

Perhaps you should get a better Bible?


There is no such thing as a spiritual resurrection.
That's strange. Its clearly there in my Bible.

'As Christ was raised from the dead -- that we too might walk in newness of life. ' The reasoning is clear. Christ raised from the dead - we ALSO walk in newness of life. Isn't that clear enough for you.?

Reckon yourself to be dead to sin but ALIVE TO GOD through Jesus Christ our LORD (Rom 6.11). To become alive after death is RESURRECTION.

If you have been RAISED WITH CHRIST (Col 3.1). Who does this refer to?

So being raised with Christ so that we can set our minds on things above doesn't refer to resurrection? What then can it possibly mean? lol You are just closing your eyes to the truth.


You definitely need a new Bible. And an up to date lexicon lol
 

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It is participation in Christ's resurrection in the body. I have risen together with Christ. I don't know about you.
Oh, so you have two resurrections?
I'm waiting for the resurrection of my body. Then it will be complete.
 

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Yeah, I agree. The best way to understand this, is that verse 5 is a parenthetic pause, an interjection. Here is the entire verse:

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. (NASB)
Typical Ahwatukee. Look round for a paraphrase masquerading as a translation that happens to say what you want it to say. The verb does not say 'came to life'. It says 'they lived'. That is a very different thing. The Greek is quite straightforward. When we die we will also live with Christ in our sprits, just as these people did.

It should read like the following:
ah yes. If only the Scriptural writer had got it right lol
 

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Oh, so you have two resurrections?
I'm waiting for the resurrection of my body. Then it will be complete.
Yes as Scripture says, I have been raised together with Christ and now have new life in Christ, so that if my body dies I will live and reign with Him. And in the future I will enjoy a bodily resurrection as well. But my spiritual resurrection is of prime importance. It ensures I have eternal life.

'As Christ was raised from the dead -- that we too might walk in newness of life. ' The reasoning is clear. Christ raised from the dead - we ALSO walk in newness of life. Isn't that clear enough for you.?

'Reckon yourself to be dead to sin but ALIVE TO GOD through Jesus Christ our LORD' (Rom 6.11). To become alive after death is RESURRECTION.

'If you have been RAISED WITH CHRIST' (Col 3.1). Who does this refer to?

So if being raised with Christ so that we can set our minds on things above doesn't refer to resurrection, what then can it possibly mean?
 
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Yes as Scripture says, I have been raised together with Christ and now have new life in Christ, so that if my body dies I will live and reign with Him. And in the future I will enjoy a bodily resurrection as well. But my spiritual resurrection is of prime importance. It ensures I have eternal life.

'As Christ was raised from the dead -- that we too might walk in newness of life. ' The reasoning is clear. Christ raised from the dead - we ALSO walk in newness of life. Isn't that clear enough for you.?

'Reckon yourself to be dead to sin but ALIVE TO GOD through Jesus Christ our LORD' (Rom 6.11). To become alive after death is RESURRECTION.

'If you have been RAISED WITH CHRIST' (Col 3.1). Who does this refer to?

So if being raised with Christ so that we can set our minds on things above doesn't refer to resurrection, what then can it possibly mean?
Positionally you're raised in the meantime your spirit still walks through the muckety muck of this world.
 

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Originally Posted by valiant
Yes as Scripture says, I have been raised together with Christ and now have new life in Christ, so that if my body dies I will live and reign with Him. And in the future I will enjoy a bodily resurrection as well. But my spiritual resurrection is of prime importance. It ensures I have eternal life.

'As Christ was raised from the dead -- that we too might walk in newness of life. ' The reasoning is clear. Christ raised from the dead - we ALSO walk in newness of life. Isn't that clear enough for you.?

'Reckon yourself to be dead to sin but ALIVE TO GOD through Jesus Christ our LORD' (Rom 6.11). To become alive after death is RESURRECTION.

'If you have been RAISED WITH CHRIST' (Col 3.1). Who does this refer to?

So if being raised with Christ so that we can set our minds on things above doesn't refer to resurrection, what then can it possibly mean?
Positionally you're raised in the meantime your spirit still walks through the muckety muck of this world.
YOUR spirit may walk through the muckety muck of this world. Mine doesn't. It is raised together with Christ and seated together with Christ in the spiritual realm. I am ACTUALLY there. LLOL how can you be 'raised positionally'? What nonsense. I AM WITH CHRIST NOW in the spiritual realm. I am sorry you aren't. You clearly only have half a life. I suggest you pray about it. OOPS of course you can't. Your spirit is in the muckety muck of the world.
 
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That's strange in my Bible it is used in Luke 2.34 of spiritual rising. It is used by LXX in Lam 3.63 of rising up in contrast with sitting down; in Zech 3.8 of 'I will cause to rise up my servant the Branch'; in Josephus of the raising of a statue. So it is not quite so plain LOL

Perhaps you should get a better Bible?
It is amazing to me that you think that you are so clever, as though you have found somthing. Below is the scripture that you quoted in order to prove a spiritual resurrection:

"The child’s father and mother marveled at what was said about him. 34Then Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, his mother: “This child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against"

Now, I can't believe that I even have to contend for this, but "the rising" that is spoken of above has nothing to do with the bodily resurrection, but is referring to those who would believe in Christ and those who would not. The context tells us that the bodily resurrection is not what is in view here, otherwise I would have to ask you what the opposition of "the falling" means in contrast to "the rising."

Our walking in the newness of life is our walking in the new nature in Christ, sowing to the Spirit, while in this body and has nothing to do with actually being resurrected. The resurrection is when Christ will appear and those people who will have died in him from the on-set of the church, dead and living, will literally be raised from the dead "bodily" and those still living will be changed, where the whole group meets Christ in the air.

At the time of death a believer's spirit departs, which is not a resurrection and goes to be in the presence of the Lord. When the Church has been completed, the Lord will bring back with him those spirits/souls who have been in his presence and their bodies will rise out from the grave and will be regenerated into that glorified body with their spirits/souls being reunited with their now resurrected bodies. Those who are still alive will be changed into their glorified bodies right on the spot and will be caught up with the resurrected.

Even if you wanted to apply the resurrection to the scripture that you used, it still only has to do with a bodily resurrection and that because the word "anastasis" is still being used. Furthermore, being "Raised with Christ" is referring to the current and future promise of the resurrection, not that we have already obtained it. As an example, scripture also states that "God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus" but obviously we are not currently there seated with him and that because we are still here on planet earth in these mortal bodies. What the scripture is saying is that, because we have received his Son, God sees believers as already raised and seated in heavenly places with Christ, that is, our salvation and positions with Christ are guaranteed through faith. Are we actually, literally and physically sitting in heaven right now? No! I'm still here in my mortal body, dealing with the flesh and the world.

The resurrection deals with a literal, physical, bodily resurrection. Though we are already seen as raised and seated with Christ, there is going to come a day where that resurrection literally takes place and then believer's will experience what has already been reserved for us.
 
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Hello 49,

First of all those are great questions. I hope that the following helps answer them:

Q: 1. Who are the rest of the dead that are mentioned in verse 5?

A: The rest of the dead who do not come to life at the first resurrection, will be the unrighteous dead, which is the reason why they will not be partaking in the first resurrection. These are those who will have been accumulating in Hades since mankind has been on the earth. Because they are not worthy of the first resurrection, the second death has power over them. They are all the unrighteous dead from the beginning of history who will be resurrected out of Hades and will stand before God at the great white throne judgment and will be accountable for their own sins.

Q: 2. Who are those sitting on the thrones in verse 4?

A: Those who are sitting on thrones will most likely the faithful, that is, the church and possibly the OT saints, as can be seen from the following scripture:

"When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels?

Q: Are they the souls of those beheaded or are they some other?

A: I believe that those who are sitting on the thrones and those who are beheaded are two separate groups. That the scripture shows that they were beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and the word of God and because they had not worshiped the beast, his image nor had they received his mark, demonstrates that this group will have been living during the time of the beasts reign and therefore, this puts them as being killed during that last 3 1/2 years, which would make them the great tribulation saints (GTS) introduced in Rev.7:9-17. In fact, everywhere that you see the word "Saints" from Rev.4 onward is in reference to the GTS, which many erroneously apply to as being the Church.

Q: 3. The second death, is that the casting of unbelievers into the lake of fire?

The second death is the another name representing the lake of fire, as can be seen from the following:

"Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Rev.20:14-15)


Hope this clears some things up.
Is making sense so far as for verse 5. So then the unbeliever will still be in Hades during the thousand year reign, not in the lake of fire yet.

That would make verse 6 clearer then because if one is not part of the first resurrection, they are eternally doomed. Wow.