The Gap vs. New Creationism Propaganda
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FLESH death is the result of Adam's sin, not the devil's who actually sinned first and death was first pronounced upon him:
1 John 3:8
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
KJV
The idea of whoever sins is of the devil because the devil sinned from the beginning, means following after the very first one who sinned (the devil).
Heb 2:14
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
KJV
Matt 25:34
34 Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
KJV
Isa 30:33
33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; He hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.
KJV
Let's see; our Lord Jesus was manifested in order to destroy the works of the devil; the lake of fire ("Tophet") was ordained of old for Satan, the metaphorical king of that Isaiah Scripture; Christ's Kingdom was prepared from the foundation of this world; death is destroyed along with Satan after Christ's future 1,000 years reign. How difficult is it to understand that Satan first sinned against God in a time before the foundation of this world, and that's why death is part of this world but not the next? If the future world of God's Kingdom will have such thing as 'death', then could there have existed a time similar to that before the foundation of this world? I say yes.
Only the 'zoon' beings God created to surround His Throne have no free will. All others God created with free will to love Him, or not. That is how Satan could rebel against Him in the beginning, as true love means nothing if it is forced.
1 John 3:8
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
KJV
The idea of whoever sins is of the devil because the devil sinned from the beginning, means following after the very first one who sinned (the devil).
Heb 2:14
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
KJV
Matt 25:34
34 Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
KJV
Isa 30:33
33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; He hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.
KJV
Let's see; our Lord Jesus was manifested in order to destroy the works of the devil; the lake of fire ("Tophet") was ordained of old for Satan, the metaphorical king of that Isaiah Scripture; Christ's Kingdom was prepared from the foundation of this world; death is destroyed along with Satan after Christ's future 1,000 years reign. How difficult is it to understand that Satan first sinned against God in a time before the foundation of this world, and that's why death is part of this world but not the next? If the future world of God's Kingdom will have such thing as 'death', then could there have existed a time similar to that before the foundation of this world? I say yes.
Only the 'zoon' beings God created to surround His Throne have no free will. All others God created with free will to love Him, or not. That is how Satan could rebel against Him in the beginning, as true love means nothing if it is forced.
E
Nothing you said here refuted what said about death.. So would you like to try again?
the very first passage you gave tends to refute the gap theory "Satan has sinned from the beginning" the beginning of what? Creation.. And then some time later he got Adam to follow him.. We are not told how long after adam was created he sinned..
The earth was made for man, NOT SATAN,, Satan sin would not cause physical life to deteriorate and die.. Man's sin caused it.
the very first passage you gave tends to refute the gap theory "Satan has sinned from the beginning" the beginning of what? Creation.. And then some time later he got Adam to follow him.. We are not told how long after adam was created he sinned..
The earth was made for man, NOT SATAN,, Satan sin would not cause physical life to deteriorate and die.. Man's sin caused it.
E
He does that all the time,, If you do not agree wiht him he can become quite judgmental. It is his way or the highways. That's why I usually stay out of these discussions even though it is my favorite subject to study (history and prophesy) because they can get so heated and people act like kids over something no one can prove as fact.
B
The Ezekiel 28 Scripture is where God revealed that He created Satan "perfect in his ways" before he rebelled. Satan rebelled of his own free will. God didn't cause it. Evil and death came in because of what Satan did, not from any shortcomings of our Heavenly Father.
Suggesting Satan's fall was from God's Hand reveals a lack of understanding in His Word.
again you lack understanding of scripture Ezekiel 28
1The word of the LORD came again to me, saying,2“Son of man, say to the leader of Tyre, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD,
“Because your heart is lifted up
And you have said, ‘I am a god,
I sit in the seat of gods
In the heart of the seas’;
Yet you are a man and not God,
Although you make your heart like the heart of God— 3Behold, you are wiser than Daniel;
There is no secret that is a match for you. 4“By your wisdom and understanding
You have acquired riches for yourself
And have acquired gold and silver for your treasuries. 5“By your great wisdom, by your trade
You have increased your riches
And your heart is lifted up because of your riches—
6Therefore thus says the Lord GOD,
‘Because you have made your heart
Like the heart of God, 7Therefore, behold, I will bring strangers upon you,
The most ruthless of the nations.
And they will draw their swords
Against the beauty of your wisdom
And defile your splendor. 8‘They will bring you down to the pit,
And you will die the death of those who are slain
In the heart of the seas. 9‘Will you still say, “I am a god,”
In the presence of your slayer,
Though you are a man and not God,
In the hands of those who wound you? 10‘You will die the death of the uncircumcised
By the hand of strangers,
For I have spoken!’ declares the Lord GOD!”’”
11Again the word of the LORD came to me saying,12“Son of man, take up a lamentation over the king of Tyre and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD,
“You had the seal of perfection,
Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13“You were in Eden, the garden of God;
Every precious stone was your covering:
The ruby, the topaz and the diamond;
The beryl, the onyx and the jasper;
The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald;
And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets,
Was in you.
On the day that you were created
They were prepared. 14“You were the anointed cherub who covers,
And I placed you there.
You were on the holy mountain of God;
You walked in the midst of the stones of fire. 15“You were blameless in your ways
From the day you were created
Until unrighteousness was found in you. 16“By the abundance of your trade
You were internally filled with violence,
And you sinned;
Therefore I have cast you as profane
From the mountain of God.
And I have destroyed you, O covering cherub,
From the midst of the stones of fire. 17“Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty;
You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor.
I cast you to the ground;
I put you before kings,
That they may see you. 18“By the multitude of your iniquities,
In the unrighteousness of your trade
You profaned your sanctuaries.
Therefore I have brought fire from the midst of you;
It has consumed you,
And I have turned you to ashes on the earth
In the eyes of all who see you. 19“All who know you among the peoples
Are appalled at you;
You have become terrified
And you will cease to be forever.”’”
20And the word of the LORD came to me saying, 21“Son of man, set your face toward Sidon, prophesy against her22and say, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD,
“Behold, I am against you, O Sidon,
And I will be glorified in your midst.
Then they will know that I am the LORD when I execute judgments in her,
And I will manifest My holiness in her. 23“For I will send pestilence to her
And blood to her streets,
And the wounded will fall in her midst
By the sword upon her on every side;
Then they will know that I am the LORD.
24“And there will be no more for the house of Israel a prickling brier or a painful thorn from any round about them who scorned them; then they will know that I am the Lord GOD.”
25‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “When I gather the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and will manifest My holiness in them in the sight of the nations, then they will live in their land which I gave to My servant Jacob. 26“They will live in it securely; and they will build houses, plant vineyards and live securely when I execute judgments upon all who scorn them round about them. Then they will know that I am the LORD their God.”’”
Here's another parable in God's Word about Satan in the old world, where God uses flesh kings as a type:
Ezek 31:2-18
2 Son of man, speak unto Pharaoh king of Egypt, and to his multitude; "Whom art thou like in thy greatness?
3 Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a shadowing shroud, and of an high stature; and his top was among the thick boughs.
One must pay attention here, pause and think throughout. What did our Heavenly Father just say there?
He tells Ezekiel to speak to Pharaoh, and then starts talking about "the Assyrian", so what gives? Further down we find out He is speaking this about someone else other than flesh kings.
The idea of the high cedar is about royalty. In Ezekiel 17 it's used as a symbol for Zedekiah king of Judah. The parable here takes that form, trees representing persons. The Assyrian was a cedar of high stature, with a shadowing shroud, his top among thick boughs; these are symbols to represent high status, royalty, exalted.
4 The waters made him great, the deep set him up on high with her rivers running round about his plants, and sent out her little rivers unto all the trees of the field.
5 Therefore his height was exalted above all the trees of the field, and his boughs were multiplied, and his branches became long because of the multitude of waters, when he shot forth.
The "waters" made him great? The deep with her rivers round about his plants, and flowing out unto all the trees of the field? What could this be a parable about? It represents the high cedar (a king) that was exalted by God from Whom the Waters of Life flow, and He made this high cedar flourish above all the trees of the field.
6 All the fowls of heaven made their nests in his boughs, and under his branches did all the beasts of the field bring forth their young, and under his shadow dwelt all great nations.
The high cedar's boughs provided nests for the fowls of heaven, and branches of shade for all the beasts of the field, and under his shadow dwelt all "great nations". Wait a minute! I thought God was giving a parable here about the high cedar? Why this turn from the parable all of sudden and then mention of "great nations"?
The purpose is to form in the mind a picture of a previous kingdom on earth involving a high king exalted by God which God's blessings flowed through unto the all the other trees of the field, i.e., "great nations". So far we must assume this about the king of Assyria.
Notice how God briefly mentioned this "great nations" idea interspersed among the high cedar parable? It's there like a wake up call of who He is really pointing to here.
7 Thus was he fair in his greatness, in the length of his branches: for his root was by great waters.
8 The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty.
9 I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.
This just changed everything though. Was Pharaoh or the Assyrian ever in God's Garden of Eden? No. But Satan was. Now we know God is only using the flesh kings Pharaoh and the Assyrian as types pointing back to Satan himself, just like what God did in the Ezekiel 28 chapter about the prince and king of Tyrus.
This description of the high cedar is about his being in God's Garden of Eden! The "great waters" represent God's River of the waters of life that was once upon this earth (Gen.2). Yet in Gen.3 wasn't Satan tempting Adam and Eve against God as that old serpent? Yes, which means that could not have been this time when Satan was that high cedar exalted by God in His Garden. This is definitely pointing back in time way before Adam and Eve.
10 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast lifted up thyself in height, and he hath shot up his top among the thick boughs, and his heart is lifted up in his height;
11 I have therefore delivered him into the hand of the mighty one of the heathen; he shall surely deal with him: I have driven him out for his wickedness.
12 And strangers, the terrible of the nations, have cut him off, and have left him: upon the mountains and in all the valleys his branches are fallen, and his boughs are broken by all the rivers of the land; and all the people of the earth are gone down from his shadow, and have left him.
Now God is giving a description in the parable of his fall. The high cedar lifted himself up in height, his heart being pumped up.
13 Upon his ruin shall all the fowls of the heaven remain, and all the beasts of the field shall be upon his branches:
14 To the end that none of all the trees by the waters exalt themselves for their height, neither shoot up their top among the thick boughs, neither their trees stand up in their height, all that drink water: for they are all delivered unto death, to the nether parts of the earth, in the midst of the children of men, with them that go down to the pit.
Who would these other trees be that shoot up their top among thick boughs, which are delivered unto death, and with them that go down to the pit? Could that be a reference to the 1/3 of angels that rebelled with Satan? (Rev.12:3-4) It would have to be, since only Satan and his angels have already been judged and sentenced to perish while no flesh man has yet.
15 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.
This is still about Satan who was exalted in God's Garden of Eden. Here it is after his fall with God having pronounced a death sentence upon him.
Notice the idea of covering the deep (waters on the earth), and God having restrained the floods thereof; and the great waters were stayed; what is that pointing to? This could not be about the time of Noah with the flood because Satan rebelled long before that. And Pharaoh and the Assyrian didn't yet exist at the time of Noah. We have just run out of options; this has to be about Satan when God ENDED his original rebellion of old, WITH A FLOOD WATERS UPON THE EARTH.
16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.
17 They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.
With this, our Heavenly Father is making it very plain that He is talking about Satan at the time of his fall. Did you notice God mentioned the "nations" shaking at the sound of his fall??? This stands as one of the proofs of Jer.4:23-28 about the cities falling at God's fierce anger, and all the hills and mountains trembling, with the earth laying in a wasted state "without form, and void".
(Satan's little children of darkness that hide here on this forum just aren't going to like this. Can't wait to see how riled up they get!).
18 To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts of the earth: thou shalt lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword. This is Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD.
KJV
So that's about Pharaoh all this time? I mean, that's who God says there this is about, so what gives? It's parable about Satan in the time of old before he first rebelled, and then after he rebelled and God brought waters of a flood to destroy what Satan did and end that time.
Ezek 31:2-18
2 Son of man, speak unto Pharaoh king of Egypt, and to his multitude; "Whom art thou like in thy greatness?
3 Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a shadowing shroud, and of an high stature; and his top was among the thick boughs.
One must pay attention here, pause and think throughout. What did our Heavenly Father just say there?
He tells Ezekiel to speak to Pharaoh, and then starts talking about "the Assyrian", so what gives? Further down we find out He is speaking this about someone else other than flesh kings.
The idea of the high cedar is about royalty. In Ezekiel 17 it's used as a symbol for Zedekiah king of Judah. The parable here takes that form, trees representing persons. The Assyrian was a cedar of high stature, with a shadowing shroud, his top among thick boughs; these are symbols to represent high status, royalty, exalted.
4 The waters made him great, the deep set him up on high with her rivers running round about his plants, and sent out her little rivers unto all the trees of the field.
5 Therefore his height was exalted above all the trees of the field, and his boughs were multiplied, and his branches became long because of the multitude of waters, when he shot forth.
The "waters" made him great? The deep with her rivers round about his plants, and flowing out unto all the trees of the field? What could this be a parable about? It represents the high cedar (a king) that was exalted by God from Whom the Waters of Life flow, and He made this high cedar flourish above all the trees of the field.
6 All the fowls of heaven made their nests in his boughs, and under his branches did all the beasts of the field bring forth their young, and under his shadow dwelt all great nations.
The high cedar's boughs provided nests for the fowls of heaven, and branches of shade for all the beasts of the field, and under his shadow dwelt all "great nations". Wait a minute! I thought God was giving a parable here about the high cedar? Why this turn from the parable all of sudden and then mention of "great nations"?
The purpose is to form in the mind a picture of a previous kingdom on earth involving a high king exalted by God which God's blessings flowed through unto the all the other trees of the field, i.e., "great nations". So far we must assume this about the king of Assyria.
Notice how God briefly mentioned this "great nations" idea interspersed among the high cedar parable? It's there like a wake up call of who He is really pointing to here.
7 Thus was he fair in his greatness, in the length of his branches: for his root was by great waters.
8 The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty.
9 I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.
This just changed everything though. Was Pharaoh or the Assyrian ever in God's Garden of Eden? No. But Satan was. Now we know God is only using the flesh kings Pharaoh and the Assyrian as types pointing back to Satan himself, just like what God did in the Ezekiel 28 chapter about the prince and king of Tyrus.
This description of the high cedar is about his being in God's Garden of Eden! The "great waters" represent God's River of the waters of life that was once upon this earth (Gen.2). Yet in Gen.3 wasn't Satan tempting Adam and Eve against God as that old serpent? Yes, which means that could not have been this time when Satan was that high cedar exalted by God in His Garden. This is definitely pointing back in time way before Adam and Eve.
10 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast lifted up thyself in height, and he hath shot up his top among the thick boughs, and his heart is lifted up in his height;
11 I have therefore delivered him into the hand of the mighty one of the heathen; he shall surely deal with him: I have driven him out for his wickedness.
12 And strangers, the terrible of the nations, have cut him off, and have left him: upon the mountains and in all the valleys his branches are fallen, and his boughs are broken by all the rivers of the land; and all the people of the earth are gone down from his shadow, and have left him.
Now God is giving a description in the parable of his fall. The high cedar lifted himself up in height, his heart being pumped up.
13 Upon his ruin shall all the fowls of the heaven remain, and all the beasts of the field shall be upon his branches:
14 To the end that none of all the trees by the waters exalt themselves for their height, neither shoot up their top among the thick boughs, neither their trees stand up in their height, all that drink water: for they are all delivered unto death, to the nether parts of the earth, in the midst of the children of men, with them that go down to the pit.
Who would these other trees be that shoot up their top among thick boughs, which are delivered unto death, and with them that go down to the pit? Could that be a reference to the 1/3 of angels that rebelled with Satan? (Rev.12:3-4) It would have to be, since only Satan and his angels have already been judged and sentenced to perish while no flesh man has yet.
15 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.
This is still about Satan who was exalted in God's Garden of Eden. Here it is after his fall with God having pronounced a death sentence upon him.
Notice the idea of covering the deep (waters on the earth), and God having restrained the floods thereof; and the great waters were stayed; what is that pointing to? This could not be about the time of Noah with the flood because Satan rebelled long before that. And Pharaoh and the Assyrian didn't yet exist at the time of Noah. We have just run out of options; this has to be about Satan when God ENDED his original rebellion of old, WITH A FLOOD WATERS UPON THE EARTH.
16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.
17 They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.
With this, our Heavenly Father is making it very plain that He is talking about Satan at the time of his fall. Did you notice God mentioned the "nations" shaking at the sound of his fall??? This stands as one of the proofs of Jer.4:23-28 about the cities falling at God's fierce anger, and all the hills and mountains trembling, with the earth laying in a wasted state "without form, and void".
(Satan's little children of darkness that hide here on this forum just aren't going to like this. Can't wait to see how riled up they get!).
18 To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts of the earth: thou shalt lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword. This is Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD.
KJV
So that's about Pharaoh all this time? I mean, that's who God says there this is about, so what gives? It's parable about Satan in the time of old before he first rebelled, and then after he rebelled and God brought waters of a flood to destroy what Satan did and end that time.
Trouble staying on topic? The topic was when Satan did the first sin, which is what John was talking about Satan being the very first one that sinned in the beginning. But by your lack of understanding, you'd probably put that event after Adam's fall or with Adam's fall, because of following men's traditions instead of God's Word.
From the beginning, John said. It's just as I said, you'd like to put Satan's original rebellion at the time of Adam. Jesus said the lake of fire has been prepared for the devil and his angels, and in Isaiah 30 God said "of old" is when it was ordained. And I've already shown enough from Ezekiel 31 that it was before this present world.
And yet you cannot understand how DEATH and the power of death was assigned to Satan, and that Jesus was manifested for this reason, to destroy Satan and death, like Hebrews said, and how Satan and death is destroyed per Rev.20.
You might want to study Isaiah 10, and then think about that again.
God uses the Assyrian as a punishing rod for this world. He uses the Assyrian at times as a type for Satan.
When Satan rebelled against Him, that is when wickedness, evil, and death began, because of what Satan did, not by any cause from God. God did not create evil. Like Ezek.28 shows, God originally created Satan perfect in his ways before he rebelled. That is NOT God creating evil.
After the fall, God uses Satan and his evil to punish the rebellious, including His chosen that are rebellious. But that is of THIS world, and because of what Satan did. When THIS world ends, that operation will never be anymore forever.
God uses the Assyrian as a punishing rod for this world. He uses the Assyrian at times as a type for Satan.
When Satan rebelled against Him, that is when wickedness, evil, and death began, because of what Satan did, not by any cause from God. God did not create evil. Like Ezek.28 shows, God originally created Satan perfect in his ways before he rebelled. That is NOT God creating evil.
After the fall, God uses Satan and his evil to punish the rebellious, including His chosen that are rebellious. But that is of THIS world, and because of what Satan did. When THIS world ends, that operation will never be anymore forever.
E
See there you go putting words into people mouths again You have issues DP. No one made this claim nor did anyone deny it.
Satan sinned in the beginning, It does not mean God created evil, or that he sinned after adam did, Do you have anything of value to add, or just twist people words, and make it look like they do not know what they are talking about?
The topic is when did physical deterioration and death occure, Before adams sin, or after.. Nice try to make it something else. Yep from the beginning.
So the topic becomes, WHEN was the begining?
But I know. you do not want to discuss this,,
oh and PS. you did not prove anything, but your opinion.. You still have not shown WHY physical death occured before adams sin.
???? What does this have to do with the action of a SPIRITUAL being bringing about a curse on PHYSICAL BEINGS?
If what you say is true, Then adam and eve would have been created IMPERFECT, and dying before they even sinned.. The fact that they, as well as all creation, where made perfect beings, and this perfection continued until the fall of man. SHows you have alot of hoops to climb to prove Gap.
Now do you want to keep on with this nonsense of twisting people words. and makeing them look bad based on your false assumptions. Or discuss the word of God?
Satan sinned in the beginning, It does not mean God created evil, or that he sinned after adam did, Do you have anything of value to add, or just twist people words, and make it look like they do not know what they are talking about?
The topic is when did physical deterioration and death occure, Before adams sin, or after.. Nice try to make it something else. Yep from the beginning.
So the topic becomes, WHEN was the begining?
But I know. you do not want to discuss this,,
oh and PS. you did not prove anything, but your opinion.. You still have not shown WHY physical death occured before adams sin.
???? What does this have to do with the action of a SPIRITUAL being bringing about a curse on PHYSICAL BEINGS?
If what you say is true, Then adam and eve would have been created IMPERFECT, and dying before they even sinned.. The fact that they, as well as all creation, where made perfect beings, and this perfection continued until the fall of man. SHows you have alot of hoops to climb to prove Gap.
Now do you want to keep on with this nonsense of twisting people words. and makeing them look bad based on your false assumptions. Or discuss the word of God?
"All the gap does (in my view) is show God made a mistake with Satan, And man is the result.. and takes away from the power of Creation.. and the majesty of God, Who says, let there be (whatever it is he is creating) and it becomes in its perfected form."
You said that above. How does the Gap show that God made a mistake with Satan? You don't support what you said there at all. How in that sense even would God having created Adam take away from the power of God's creation? None of that proves anything. It's just your opinion, and without giving any Biblical proof to back it up.
But I'll tell you what Satan's rebellion meant. It allowed death to be assigned to flesh Adam once he also disobeyed God's commandment, and brought death to every flesh born man of this world. And for this reason, like Hebrews 2:14 and 1 John 3:8 shows, Jesus was manifested for us for that reason, to destroy the devil and his works. That's why The Gospel was ordained to come from the foundation of this world. And in some NT cases, the Greek for that word "foundation" also means the 'overthrow' (i.e., rebellion).
You said that above. How does the Gap show that God made a mistake with Satan? You don't support what you said there at all. How in that sense even would God having created Adam take away from the power of God's creation? None of that proves anything. It's just your opinion, and without giving any Biblical proof to back it up.
But I'll tell you what Satan's rebellion meant. It allowed death to be assigned to flesh Adam once he also disobeyed God's commandment, and brought death to every flesh born man of this world. And for this reason, like Hebrews 2:14 and 1 John 3:8 shows, Jesus was manifested for us for that reason, to destroy the devil and his works. That's why The Gospel was ordained to come from the foundation of this world. And in some NT cases, the Greek for that word "foundation" also means the 'overthrow' (i.e., rebellion).