The Gap vs. New Creationism Propaganda

[DP]

Some threads have been going on here putting forth propaganda that if you believe in the Gap theory of Genesis, then it means you believe in man's theory of evolution. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There have been quite a few excellent Bible scholars who held to the Gap idea of Genesis and they were not evolutionists (E.W. Bullinger, Barnes, etc.).

Most likely its the Young Earth Creationists that are putting out that propaganda. Young Earth Creationism has some fanatical factions that proposes a theory that dinosaurs are still roaming the earth today. Why can't they just admit the fossil record evidence that God left us to know about instead of trying to create a false theory that God's creation is relatively new?

The Gap in Genesis has nothing to do with evolution. It has to do with a time when Satan first rebelled against God, and God ended that old world. By the time of Satan tempting Adam and Eve, he had already fallen from his rebellion against God. So when did Satan first rebel? Study in the OT prophets of Ezekiel reveal a previous world when he rebelled, but it's a parable, so anyone could easily deny it if they so wanted.

 

[Officermayo]

Wasn't the Genesis Gap Theory formulated as a rebuttal of Darwin? I can't find any evidence of it being taught prior to the 19th century.

 

[Dino246]

Well... this OP certainly does nothing to encourage discussion, as it disparages one interpretation of Scripture in favour of another, as though the first is wrong and the second 'unquestionably' correct. With as much (and I think far more) scriptural support, young-earth creation can be argued convincingly. Does that mean that belief in still-living dinosaurs is an intrinsic part of the YEC viewpoint? Not at all. However, such a belief is consistent with a YE view, and with scientific data. If you want to promote an interpretation, do it on its own merits, not at the expense of another view. I'd guess you've been listening to too much political rhetoric and too little sound debate.

Answer me one single question, DP: how does DNA, which by scientific study is estimated to last no longer than about 10,000 years, still exist in T.rex soft tissues which, according to oec and evolutionary propaganda, are about 65 million years old?

 

[lastofall]

(Matthew 11:25)

 

[mpaper345]

Some threads have been going on here putting forth propaganda that if you believe in the Gap theory of Genesis, then it means you believe in man's theory of evolution. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There have been quite a few excellent Bible scholars who held to the Gap idea of Genesis and they were not evolutionists (E.W. Bullinger, Barnes, etc.).

Most likely its the Young Earth Creationists that are putting out that propaganda. Young Earth Creationism has some fanatical factions that proposes a theory that dinosaurs are still roaming the earth today. Why can't they just admit the fossil record evidence that God left us to know about instead of trying to create a false theory that God's creation is relatively new?

The Gap in Genesis has nothing to do with evolution. It has to do with a time when Satan first rebelled against God, and God ended that old world. By the time of Satan tempting Adam and Eve, he had already fallen from his rebellion against God. So when did Satan first rebel? Study in the OT prophets of Ezekiel reveal a previous world when he rebelled, but it's a parable, so anyone could easily deny it if they so wanted.

When you read Genesis chapter 1,it states flat out that God made everything straight out,and not by an evolutionary process.

Why would God use evolution to bring about life forms,when He can create things as a whole,and God created all things in their mature adult form,and then they multiplied from there.

What came first the chicken,or the egg,of course the chicken.

God caused a deep sleep to happen to Adam,and took one of his ribs,and created Eve right there on the spot.He did not use evolution to bring her about.

Also it states man was created from the dust of the earth,not by an evolution process.

Evolution does not perceive anything,for by chance it definitely did not come about all this creation,and evolution had a reason why it did what it did,although it was not aware,still does not work,for evolution knows nothing.

Why would evolution give us eyes to see,if it cannot perceive that there is anything to see,to give us eyes to see it.Why would evolution give us ears to hear,when evolution cannot perceive that there is anything to hear,to give us ears to hear,and so forth,and then even has the ability to make foods that taste good to us,put the body parts together in such a way,not only for best functioning,but for best looks,as if evolution understands fashion.

Evolution is a joke,and it had to be an intelligent mind that created all that is created,but that is what they try to avoid is there is an intelligent mind behind creation.

 

[eph610]

Some threads have been going on here putting forth propaganda that if you believe in the Gap theory of Genesis, then it means you believe in man's theory of evolution. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There have been quite a few excellent Bible scholars who held to the Gap idea of Genesis and they were not evolutionists (E.W. Bullinger, Barnes, etc.).

Most likely its the Young Earth Creationists that are putting out that propaganda. Young Earth Creationism has some fanatical factions that proposes a theory that dinosaurs are still roaming the earth today. Why can't they just admit the fossil record evidence that God left us to know about instead of trying to create a false theory that God's creation is relatively new?

The Gap in Genesis has nothing to do with evolution. It has to do with a time when Satan first rebelled against God, and God ended that old world. By the time of Satan tempting Adam and Eve, he had already fallen from his rebellion against God. So when did Satan first rebel? Study in the OT prophets of Ezekiel reveal a previous world when he rebelled, but it's a parable, so anyone could easily deny it if they so wanted.

The GAP theory is false teaching from Chalmers, Scofield and Dake.

GAP has a serious flaw, if God ended the Pre-Adamic World, then what happened to all the people in the GAP, why would God not save them as he did Adam's race?

Besides, Jesus told Paul who told us that nevertheless Death reigned from Adam to Moses, not between Gen 1.1-2

 

[BeyondET]

I've never looked into this so called gap theory Thing, though Genesis wasn't written to be a scientific or physics or even a time zone. A day in God realm isn't the same time frame as in man realm, the statement, and there was morning and evening doesn't say there was no light, though a morning and evening can have no light as we understand what we call a full day but it can mean as well there was light present the whole time for there was a morning and evening before our sun was created on the forth day and our sun is how we determine a full 24 hour day.

As far as evolution goes it's simply a word to discribe a theory that is looking in the wrong area like once man thought the world was flat. Give it some time and surely this theory of evolution will evolve.

 

[Gr8grace]

Some threads have been going on here putting forth propaganda that if you believe in the Gap theory of Genesis, then it means you believe in man's theory of evolution. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There have been quite a few excellent Bible scholars who held to the Gap idea of Genesis and they were not evolutionists (E.W. Bullinger, Barnes, etc.).

Most likely its the Young Earth Creationists that are putting out that propaganda. Young Earth Creationism has some fanatical factions that proposes a theory that dinosaurs are still roaming the earth today. Why can't they just admit the fossil record evidence that God left us to know about instead of trying to create a false theory that God's creation is relatively new?

The Gap in Genesis has nothing to do with evolution. It has to do with a time when Satan first rebelled against God, and God ended that old world. By the time of Satan tempting Adam and Eve, he had already fallen from his rebellion against God. So when did Satan first rebel? Study in the OT prophets of Ezekiel reveal a previous world when he rebelled, but it's a parable, so anyone could easily deny it if they so wanted.

Jeremiah also. I believe these verses speak of satans fall......

Jer 4~~ 23I looked on the earth, and behold, it was formless and void; And to the heavens, and they had no light. 24I looked on the mountains, and behold, they were quaking,
And all the hills moved to and fro. 25I looked, and behold, there was no man,
And all the birds of the heavens had fled. 26I looked, and behold, the fruitful land was a wilderness,
And all its cities were pulled down
Before the LORD, before His fierce anger. 27For thus says the LORD,
“The whole land shall be a desolation,
Yet I will not execute a complete destruction. 28“For this the earth shall mourn
And the heavens above be dark,
Because I have spoken, I have purposed,
And I will not change My mind, nor will I turn from it.”

 

[eph610]

Jeremiah also. I believe these verses speak of satans fall......

Jer 4~~23I looked on the earth, and behold, it was formless and void; And to the heavens, and they had no light. 24I looked on the mountains, and behold, they were quaking,
And all the hills moved to and fro. 25I looked, and behold, there was no man,
And all the birds of the heavens had fled. 26I looked, and behold, the fruitful land was a wilderness,
And all its cities were pulled down
Before the LORD, before His fierce anger. 27For thus says the LORD,
“The whole land shall be a desolation,
Yet I will not execute a complete destruction. 28“For this the earth shall mourn
And the heavens above be dark,
Because I have spoken, I have purposed,
And I will not change My mind, nor will I turn from it.”

Or he could be prophesying about when Jerusalem was to be utterly destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar in 587 BC.....

Gappers use this verse and Psalm 104 to justify the theory. Many Gappers also suggest there were 2 floods, the great flood of Noah and what they call the Lucifer Flood, they state is found in Psalm 104

 

[Gr8grace]

Or he could be prophesying about when Jerusalem was to be utterly destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar in 587 BC.....

Gappers use this verse and Psalm 104 to justify the theory. Many Gappers also suggest there were 2 floods, the great flood of Noah and what they call the Lucifer Flood, they state is found in Psalm 104

Could be. I don't think so though.

Why did God create man? the GAP fact answers that question and many others that many believers can't answer.

 

[Gr8grace]

The GAP theory is false teaching from Chalmers, Scofield and Dake.

GAP has a serious flaw, if God ended the Pre-Adamic World, then what happened to all the people in the GAP, why would God not save them as he did Adam's race?

Besides, Jesus told Paul who told us that nevertheless Death reigned from Adam to Moses, not between Gen 1.1-2

There were no men. Jeremiah 4 points that out. It was satan,as the head(like Adam to us) of all the angels. Hence we have always known the angels as elect or fallen.......they fell before we were created.

death reigned from Adam for the human race.

 

[LaurenTM]

why does not believing in a young earth automatically make you an evolutionist?

I don't agree with that at all

 

[eph610]

why does not believing in a young earth automatically make you an evolutionist?

I don't agree with that at all

you know....the same way a screen door belongs on a submarine....

 

[LaurenTM]

why does not believing in a young earth automatically make you an evolutionist?

I don't agree with that at all

now now

let's stay friends....

I meant I don't agree with young earth but neither am I an evolutionist

one size fits all does not look good on me

 

[notuptome]

Since God spoke all of creation into existence why would I doubt that God could create things that appear billions of years old in an instant as well?

What is time to God Who inhabits all of eternity?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[p_rehbein]

I like their Jeans (The Gap), but am not familiar with the New Creationism line of Jeans. Are they expensive?

 

[LaurenTM]

I like their Jeans (The Gap), but am not familiar with the New Creationism line of Jeans. Are they expensive?

yeah maybe

you could be ostra-sized

 

[Gr8grace]

why does not believing in a young earth automatically make you an evolutionist?

I don't agree with that at all

I don't agree with evolution. But I do think that there is a lot of time between Gen1:1 and 1:2. the earth is old,mankind is 'young.'

The GAP, reveal's why God created mankind and what we are to do. And If we follow Gods plan for our lives......It puts another nail in satans coffin. So satan is going to do his level best to hide this from us.

Its the Angelic conflict or Kingdom conflict. And we are smack dab in the middle of it.

 

[LaurenTM]

I don't agree with evolution. But I do think that there is a lot of time between Gen1:1 and 1:2. the earth is old,mankind is 'young.'

The GAP, reveal's why God created mankind and what we are to do. And If we follow Gods plan for our lives......It puts another nail in satans coffin. So satan is going to do his level best to hide this from us.

Its the Angelic conflict or Kingdom conflict. And we are smack dab in the middle of it.

the earth was without form and void

I don't have it all figured out

I just think it's much older than young

 

[Gr8grace]

the earth was without form and void

I don't have it all figured out

I just think it's much older than young

And the earth became formless and void. Became or was? each side of the argument can make a solid case for either one to be used. I think "became" has a better case than "was."

Here is an example. Same word as 'was' in Gen 1:2.

Gen 19:26~~New American Standard Bible
But his wife, from behind him, looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.