THE GARDEN OF EDEN
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i was just contemplating the same question, "does it really matter"...
if we point the world to JESUS, we're doing ok, if we fight about where Adam was created, we have lost our own way.
The Garden was there before Adam, THEN.... God TOOK Adam and placed him in the garden... THE END
if we point the world to JESUS, we're doing ok, if we fight about where Adam was created, we have lost our own way.
The Garden was there before Adam, THEN.... God TOOK Adam and placed him in the garden... THE END
I love everything that's got to do with God's word. I mean, thats where my topic started from - scripture in genesis,
I'm not debating, others are debating me! I'm defending the truth now. They dont even think the garden of Eden is on earth. Don't you find that disturbing????????? I learnt this from a very young child and my parents were not even christians. How do we even have a proper discussion if we cant get past stage 1?
Are you happy that false things are being preached? Does it concern you? What would you do if it was your post?
I'm not debating, others are debating me! I'm defending the truth now. They dont even think the garden of Eden is on earth. Don't you find that disturbing????????? I learnt this from a very young child and my parents were not even christians. How do we even have a proper discussion if we cant get past stage 1?
Are you happy that false things are being preached? Does it concern you? What would you do if it was your post?
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I would lay out why I believe as I do and agree to disagree on topics that will not condemn them to hell. How do you know it is the other person who has the false teaching?
This isn't a "teaching" this is a discussion. Unless they have been told by God and revealed His wisdom, no one on this forum "teaches" so much as discuss what we think God is speaking into our lives for the only "teacher" is God through His Holy Spirit.
Thought that was fundamental Christian belief. THat the Holy Spirit is the only true Teacher and everyone else is just brethren.
I just think grasping for power in this world goes against God's word and His will for all power and glory belongs to GOD and dispentionalist theories tend to go towards conquering this human world under the disguise of Christianity and this thread is a door that leads to those theories by making a place on Earth a thing of worship instead of just worshiping GOD and listening to His Holy Words.
This isn't a "teaching" this is a discussion. Unless they have been told by God and revealed His wisdom, no one on this forum "teaches" so much as discuss what we think God is speaking into our lives for the only "teacher" is God through His Holy Spirit.
Thought that was fundamental Christian belief. THat the Holy Spirit is the only true Teacher and everyone else is just brethren.
I just think grasping for power in this world goes against God's word and His will for all power and glory belongs to GOD and dispentionalist theories tend to go towards conquering this human world under the disguise of Christianity and this thread is a door that leads to those theories by making a place on Earth a thing of worship instead of just worshiping GOD and listening to His Holy Words.
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that's the thing Journey I did go back and read Genesis and I don't agree with what most of mankind says concerning it so I pray and wait for God to answer and I'm not sure if I really understand His answer so If you do then can you answer these questions. For I know why I believe as I do, but I don't know why you and most others believe as you do. You could be right or you could be wrong I don't know, only God really knows in the end. but your words have not answered my questions or convinced me that Eden was on Earth.
1. Why do you think Eden was on Earth?
2. How do you explain the difference between the story of Genesis 1 and 2 mainly the order sequence of trees and stuff AFTER instead of Before the creation of mankind?
3. where is Eden now? some people say God took it into heaven before the flood, why couldn't have God made it in Heaven in the first place?
4. why do you think the tree of Life symbolic? is the rest of the story symbolic too?
I mean I've studied the bible and prayed about it and I don't see what you are seeing. Don't blame it on church traditions and stuff because truthfully my church doesn't really teach on Genesis.
I don't mind talking about the Bible but if you are unwilling to express your ideas and instead just insist that I reread the Bible I will just get aggravated because I have read the Bible enough I could probably quote you large sections of it and it is doubtful I will read it and find whatever you are alluding to because your thought processes don't make sense to me.
Therefore I'm hoping you will clarify and elaborate what it is you really believe and want other people to see, instead of being coy and mystical about it all.
1. Why do you think Eden was on Earth?
2. How do you explain the difference between the story of Genesis 1 and 2 mainly the order sequence of trees and stuff AFTER instead of Before the creation of mankind?
3. where is Eden now? some people say God took it into heaven before the flood, why couldn't have God made it in Heaven in the first place?
4. why do you think the tree of Life symbolic? is the rest of the story symbolic too?
I mean I've studied the bible and prayed about it and I don't see what you are seeing. Don't blame it on church traditions and stuff because truthfully my church doesn't really teach on Genesis.
I don't mind talking about the Bible but if you are unwilling to express your ideas and instead just insist that I reread the Bible I will just get aggravated because I have read the Bible enough I could probably quote you large sections of it and it is doubtful I will read it and find whatever you are alluding to because your thought processes don't make sense to me.
Therefore I'm hoping you will clarify and elaborate what it is you really believe and want other people to see, instead of being coy and mystical about it all.
Hi Journey; reguarding your understanding of Genisis and Adam, talk about having to go back and forth over things again. I would think that when i post something like the following, that people would be shocked awake by it; but its easier i guess to just assume me as a lier or false prophet or some strange thing Even told that i'm not a christian? beats me!
As i don't beleive that you were online when i posted the last time, i'll go over it for you and anyone else that may care.
When you go to the best preserved and recently dug up scriptures, in Hebrew & Greek & Arimaic; You can clearly see for yourself the differences between the Adam (mankind) of the 6th day and the Et'hadam (the man) of Genisis 1:26.
Problem is; just as theres so many versions of the English translations, there are also a number of versions of the Maserotic texts; the best copies mankind has of these scriptures.
Some of the versions of the Maserotic texts also do not make the distinction between these Adams, but it can be verified through the ones in the museums in Judeah (so-called Israel)
Et'hadam= The Man: The man that God chose, to be an ambassador for Him; remember Gods dillema that He states He has, prior to forming Et'hadam;Gen:2-5 for He had yet to cause it to rain upon the earth and there was no man to till the ground.
And don't forget what God said just before in Gen 2-1; Thus the heaven and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
These are the different races of people and the wild animals and everything that they would need to sustain themselves physically; However God had yet to cause it to rain upon the eatrh is clear in the Maserotic texts, that God had yet to introduce Himself to his creatures and explain to them, where it is that they and all this creation around them came from.
Thus in the 7th day (1000 years) starts are the crap were dealing with now; Were here because etc...........................................................
I apologize now for not remembering what you were getting at; i can see clearly how Et'hadam was most likely formed in Jerusalum, as it then says that afterwards, he was taken east to Eden. So i would have to stick with my original statement that Eden (correct me if i'm wrong please, but is not Eden translated into paradise; and meaning a reflection of Paradise) is most likely not on earth; as i mentioned before that the books of Adam & Eve are all about the entering into this flesh realm from the reflection of Paradise (Eden) that they were in, which was only a reflection and it explains in there of how there was another flesh state that exsisted preciously for this purpoe; to GENTELY introduce them into this realm of flesh, and to have a clear memory of what Pardise was like.
It is such a compassionate story, that i wouldn't wreck the highlights for anybody, so if anyone wants to know, it there.
Now if you are wondering where preciously Et'hadam was formed; from my studies i would have to say that there is this possibility; Bethel (The House of Bread) Bethleham, when you study the original texts, you find out all kinds of neat and intricate details, that don't come through at least in English translations anyways (don't speak other languanges)
Bethel, the scriptures say that the precise spot where Christ was born, is exactly the same spot where Rachel passed-over in giving birth to Benjiman, the youngest of the Paitriarcal Fathers and Joseph's only full blood brother.
Seems to me like this is a pretty significant location, for other things as well, so thats where i'd put my guess.
The other dillema God had was; and He had yet to form a man to till the ground (farming & agriculture) to produce the amount of food that would be required to feed the masses of peoples that were to come.
So on the 8th day; God forms the first Jewish Man (Man of Praise) and of the same flesh, makes he the woman, literatly a cloning (not created separetly as on the 6th day) and all the domesticated animals he would require to farm.
In the texts, the word we have translated as rib, is actually curve, and now we know of the helix curve (dna) and its seems to me anyways, that God was talking about DNA, loooong before man ever discovered it.
And the DNA geneologies of Judah & Levi, are recorded in the OT, from Et'hadam & Eve all the way down to Mary & Joseph, and all the ascociated miricles and divine interventions that took place in protecting that seed-line until the Birth of Christ.
Truly way more than Amazing, when seen clearly as to the reasons and timings of these more than natural acts (supernatural) that were performed by Our Father, brings one to tears of comfort and joy and a warming overwhelming feeling of love.
Though some may scoff; i pray that this in some way helps you Journey, this is from my studies, and prayfully helps somebody.
Forever in Christ
Even told that i'm not a christian? beats me!As i don't beleive that you were online when i posted the last time, i'll go over it for you and anyone else that may care.
When you go to the best preserved and recently dug up scriptures, in Hebrew & Greek & Arimaic; You can clearly see for yourself the differences between the Adam (mankind) of the 6th day and the Et'hadam (the man) of Genisis 1:26.
Problem is; just as theres so many versions of the English translations, there are also a number of versions of the Maserotic texts; the best copies mankind has of these scriptures.
Some of the versions of the Maserotic texts also do not make the distinction between these Adams, but it can be verified through the ones in the museums in Judeah (so-called Israel)
Et'hadam= The Man: The man that God chose, to be an ambassador for Him; remember Gods dillema that He states He has, prior to forming Et'hadam;Gen:2-5 for He had yet to cause it to rain upon the earth and there was no man to till the ground.
And don't forget what God said just before in Gen 2-1; Thus the heaven and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
These are the different races of people and the wild animals and everything that they would need to sustain themselves physically; However God had yet to cause it to rain upon the eatrh is clear in the Maserotic texts, that God had yet to introduce Himself to his creatures and explain to them, where it is that they and all this creation around them came from.
Thus in the 7th day (1000 years) starts are the crap were dealing with now; Were here because etc...........................................................
I apologize now for not remembering what you were getting at; i can see clearly how Et'hadam was most likely formed in Jerusalum, as it then says that afterwards, he was taken east to Eden. So i would have to stick with my original statement that Eden (correct me if i'm wrong please, but is not Eden translated into paradise; and meaning a reflection of Paradise) is most likely not on earth; as i mentioned before that the books of Adam & Eve are all about the entering into this flesh realm from the reflection of Paradise (Eden) that they were in, which was only a reflection and it explains in there of how there was another flesh state that exsisted preciously for this purpoe; to GENTELY introduce them into this realm of flesh, and to have a clear memory of what Pardise was like.
It is such a compassionate story, that i wouldn't wreck the highlights for anybody, so if anyone wants to know, it there.
Now if you are wondering where preciously Et'hadam was formed; from my studies i would have to say that there is this possibility; Bethel (The House of Bread) Bethleham, when you study the original texts, you find out all kinds of neat and intricate details, that don't come through at least in English translations anyways (don't speak other languanges)
Bethel, the scriptures say that the precise spot where Christ was born, is exactly the same spot where Rachel passed-over in giving birth to Benjiman, the youngest of the Paitriarcal Fathers and Joseph's only full blood brother.
Seems to me like this is a pretty significant location, for other things as well, so thats where i'd put my guess.
The other dillema God had was; and He had yet to form a man to till the ground (farming & agriculture) to produce the amount of food that would be required to feed the masses of peoples that were to come.
So on the 8th day; God forms the first Jewish Man (Man of Praise) and of the same flesh, makes he the woman, literatly a cloning (not created separetly as on the 6th day) and all the domesticated animals he would require to farm.
In the texts, the word we have translated as rib, is actually curve, and now we know of the helix curve (dna) and its seems to me anyways, that God was talking about DNA, loooong before man ever discovered it.
And the DNA geneologies of Judah & Levi, are recorded in the OT, from Et'hadam & Eve all the way down to Mary & Joseph, and all the ascociated miricles and divine interventions that took place in protecting that seed-line until the Birth of Christ.
Truly way more than Amazing, when seen clearly as to the reasons and timings of these more than natural acts (supernatural) that were performed by Our Father, brings one to tears of comfort and joy and a warming overwhelming feeling of love.
Though some may scoff; i pray that this in some way helps you Journey, this is from my studies, and prayfully helps somebody.
Forever in Christ
Hi Journey; reguarding your understanding of Genisis and Adam, talk about having to go back and forth over things again. I would think that when i post something like the following, that people would be shocked awake by it; but its easier i guess to just assume me as a lier or false prophet or some strange thing Even told that i'm not a christian? beats me!
As i don't beleive that you were online when i posted the last time, i'll go over it for you and anyone else that may care.
When you go to the best preserved and recently dug up scriptures, in Hebrew & Greek & Arimaic; You can clearly see for yourself the differences between the Adam (mankind) of the 6th day and the Et'hadam (the man) of Genisis 1:26.
Problem is; just as theres so many versions of the English translations, there are also a number of versions of the Maserotic texts; the best copies mankind has of these scriptures.
Some of the versions of the Maserotic texts also do not make the distinction between these Adams, but it can be verified through the ones in the museums in Judeah (so-called Israel)
Et'hadam= The Man: The man that God chose, to be an ambassador for Him; remember Gods dillema that He states He has, prior to forming Et'hadam;Gen:2-5 for He had yet to cause it to rain upon the earth and there was no man to till the ground.
And don't forget what God said just before in Gen 2-1; Thus the heaven and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
These are the different races of people and the wild animals and everything that they would need to sustain themselves physically; However God had yet to cause it to rain upon the eatrh is clear in the Maserotic texts, that God had yet to introduce Himself to his creatures and explain to them, where it is that they and all this creation around them came from.
Thus in the 7th day (1000 years) starts are the crap were dealing with now; Were here because etc...........................................................
I apologize now for not remembering what you were getting at; i can see clearly how Et'hadam was most likely formed in Jerusalum, as it then says that afterwards, he was taken east to Eden. So i would have to stick with my original statement that Eden (correct me if i'm wrong please, but is not Eden translated into paradise; and meaning a reflection of Paradise) is most likely not on earth; as i mentioned before that the books of Adam & Eve are all about the entering into this flesh realm from the reflection of Paradise (Eden) that they were in, which was only a reflection and it explains in there of how there was another flesh state that exsisted preciously for this purpoe; to GENTELY introduce them into this realm of flesh, and to have a clear memory of what Pardise was like.
It is such a compassionate story, that i wouldn't wreck the highlights for anybody, so if anyone wants to know, it there.
Now if you are wondering where preciously Et'hadam was formed; from my studies i would have to say that there is this possibility; Bethel (The House of Bread) Bethleham, when you study the original texts, you find out all kinds of neat and intricate details, that don't come through at least in English translations anyways (don't speak other languanges)
Bethel, the scriptures say that the precise spot where Christ was born, is exactly the same spot where Rachel passed-over in giving birth to Benjiman, the youngest of the Paitriarcal Fathers and Joseph's only full blood brother.
Seems to me like this is a pretty significant location, for other things as well, so thats where i'd put my guess.
The other dillema God had was; and He had yet to form a man to till the ground (farming & agriculture) to produce the amount of food that would be required to feed the masses of peoples that were to come.
So on the 8th day; God forms the first Jewish Man (Man of Praise) and of the same flesh, makes he the woman, literatly a cloning (not created separetly as on the 6th day) and all the domesticated animals he would require to farm.
In the texts, the word we have translated as rib, is actually curve, and now we know of the helix curve (dna) and its seems to me anyways, that God was talking about DNA, loooong before man ever discovered it.
And the DNA geneologies of Judah & Levi, are recorded in the OT, from Et'hadam & Eve all the way down to Mary & Joseph, and all the ascociated miricles and divine interventions that took place in protecting that seed-line until the Birth of Christ.
Truly way more than Amazing, when seen clearly as to the reasons and timings of these more than natural acts (supernatural) that were performed by Our Father, brings one to tears of comfort and joy and a warming overwhelming feeling of love.
Though some may scoff; i pray that this in some way helps you Journey, this is from my studies, and prayfully helps somebody.
Forever in Christ
Even told that i'm not a christian? beats me!As i don't beleive that you were online when i posted the last time, i'll go over it for you and anyone else that may care.
When you go to the best preserved and recently dug up scriptures, in Hebrew & Greek & Arimaic; You can clearly see for yourself the differences between the Adam (mankind) of the 6th day and the Et'hadam (the man) of Genisis 1:26.
Problem is; just as theres so many versions of the English translations, there are also a number of versions of the Maserotic texts; the best copies mankind has of these scriptures.
Some of the versions of the Maserotic texts also do not make the distinction between these Adams, but it can be verified through the ones in the museums in Judeah (so-called Israel)
Et'hadam= The Man: The man that God chose, to be an ambassador for Him; remember Gods dillema that He states He has, prior to forming Et'hadam;Gen:2-5 for He had yet to cause it to rain upon the earth and there was no man to till the ground.
And don't forget what God said just before in Gen 2-1; Thus the heaven and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
These are the different races of people and the wild animals and everything that they would need to sustain themselves physically; However God had yet to cause it to rain upon the eatrh is clear in the Maserotic texts, that God had yet to introduce Himself to his creatures and explain to them, where it is that they and all this creation around them came from.
Thus in the 7th day (1000 years) starts are the crap were dealing with now; Were here because etc...........................................................
I apologize now for not remembering what you were getting at; i can see clearly how Et'hadam was most likely formed in Jerusalum, as it then says that afterwards, he was taken east to Eden. So i would have to stick with my original statement that Eden (correct me if i'm wrong please, but is not Eden translated into paradise; and meaning a reflection of Paradise) is most likely not on earth; as i mentioned before that the books of Adam & Eve are all about the entering into this flesh realm from the reflection of Paradise (Eden) that they were in, which was only a reflection and it explains in there of how there was another flesh state that exsisted preciously for this purpoe; to GENTELY introduce them into this realm of flesh, and to have a clear memory of what Pardise was like.
It is such a compassionate story, that i wouldn't wreck the highlights for anybody, so if anyone wants to know, it there.
Now if you are wondering where preciously Et'hadam was formed; from my studies i would have to say that there is this possibility; Bethel (The House of Bread) Bethleham, when you study the original texts, you find out all kinds of neat and intricate details, that don't come through at least in English translations anyways (don't speak other languanges)
Bethel, the scriptures say that the precise spot where Christ was born, is exactly the same spot where Rachel passed-over in giving birth to Benjiman, the youngest of the Paitriarcal Fathers and Joseph's only full blood brother.
Seems to me like this is a pretty significant location, for other things as well, so thats where i'd put my guess.
The other dillema God had was; and He had yet to form a man to till the ground (farming & agriculture) to produce the amount of food that would be required to feed the masses of peoples that were to come.
So on the 8th day; God forms the first Jewish Man (Man of Praise) and of the same flesh, makes he the woman, literatly a cloning (not created separetly as on the 6th day) and all the domesticated animals he would require to farm.
In the texts, the word we have translated as rib, is actually curve, and now we know of the helix curve (dna) and its seems to me anyways, that God was talking about DNA, loooong before man ever discovered it.
And the DNA geneologies of Judah & Levi, are recorded in the OT, from Et'hadam & Eve all the way down to Mary & Joseph, and all the ascociated miricles and divine interventions that took place in protecting that seed-line until the Birth of Christ.
Truly way more than Amazing, when seen clearly as to the reasons and timings of these more than natural acts (supernatural) that were performed by Our Father, brings one to tears of comfort and joy and a warming overwhelming feeling of love.
Though some may scoff; i pray that this in some way helps you Journey, this is from my studies, and prayfully helps somebody.
Forever in Christ
then He rested on the 7th.
then on THE EIGHT DAY God created "Et'hadam": which means "ruddy-complected", - "able-to-show-blood-in-the-face"? as in Caucasian, right?
this wasn't regular run-of-the-mill adam (man).....OH NO! this was THE ADAM.
the ruddy-complected one of British-Israelism.
did i get that right?
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regarding the LAND OF EDEN, the GARDEN was planted in the eastern quadrant of it. the Garden was in Eden, of the Land of Eden.
J
Genesis 2:
10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin[d] and onyx are also there.) 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush.[e] 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Ashur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.
According to the scriptures and looking up the rivers we can still find on a map, it looks like it may have been around Turkey (as to where the garden may have been), though we realize that the courses of rivers do change over time. And assuming water didn't flow in different directions at that time.
10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin[d] and onyx are also there.) 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush.[e] 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Ashur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.
According to the scriptures and looking up the rivers we can still find on a map, it looks like it may have been around Turkey (as to where the garden may have been), though we realize that the courses of rivers do change over time. And assuming water didn't flow in different directions at that time.
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So Journey you say that you love the Bible and there is a question about it I've been pondering on for a while. What kind of clothes did God give mankind if not Flesh? I mean people aren't born with literal clothes, so why all the pictures of Adam and Eve in animal skins? It talks about clothes in the Bible a lot. like robes of righteousness, etc. anyways just thought it was interesting.
Genesis 3
21 Also for Adam and his wife the LORD God made tunics of skin, and clothed them.
22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
I don't understand why God would place guards around a symbolic tree of life, but anyways..
So we now have two hypothesis of where God got His dirt: Jeruselum and Bethelham?
You were doing so good there for a minute Zone, then your prejudism blinds you did you ever think that, able to show blood in the face, may just be a person capable of blushing or showing true embarrasment, when caught doing something wrong, such as lieing cheating stealing adultry etc... in other words, not good at lieing and unable to hide it, or good at lieing and having it eat you inside.
Beleive it or not Kathy, some people have no conciounse in going about these activities, what do you think the chances of them repenting in the flesh are?
Not understanding the prophesy of Israel's (Jacobs) land blessings concerning Ephriam and Mannasah, are your loss not mine. I've explained them out of Gods Word to you, and you reject them; the thing i'll never get about you, is why you even bother me
I don't bother you with the 1/2 truths and slandering that you do on here, i wrote this to Journey and anyone who may care; Not you, thanks for attempting to discredit a nobody, Do you understand what a busybody is?
And as far as The Adam; i thought you were English and communicated in English
How you try to twist what i say into some kind of white man theory, from The First Man of Praise or The First Jewish Man into some kind of white supremecy thing, tells me to advise you again, if you are on some kind of Meds, you better get them checked out, i really think you have a either a serious problem, or your just nuts, Or mabey you are an ex-wife to Arnold Murray, i dunno, you never did answer that one; sure seems like it, with the amount of bitterness you display, if you don't beleive me start a poll on yourself.
did you ever think that, able to show blood in the face, may just be a person capable of blushing or showing true embarrasment, when caught doing something wrong, such as lieing cheating stealing adultry etc... in other words, not good at lieing and unable to hide it, or good at lieing and having it eat you inside.Beleive it or not Kathy, some people have no conciounse in going about these activities, what do you think the chances of them repenting in the flesh are?
Not understanding the prophesy of Israel's (Jacobs) land blessings concerning Ephriam and Mannasah, are your loss not mine. I've explained them out of Gods Word to you, and you reject them; the thing i'll never get about you, is why you even bother me
I don't bother you with the 1/2 truths and slandering that you do on here, i wrote this to Journey and anyone who may care; Not you, thanks for attempting to discredit a nobody, Do you understand what a busybody is?
And as far as The Adam; i thought you were English and communicated in English
How you try to twist what i say into some kind of white man theory, from The First Man of Praise or The First Jewish Man into some kind of white supremecy thing, tells me to advise you again, if you are on some kind of Meds, you better get them checked out, i really think you have a either a serious problem, or your just nuts, Or mabey you are an ex-wife to Arnold Murray, i dunno, you never did answer that one; sure seems like it, with the amount of bitterness you display, if you don't beleive me start a poll on yourself.
You were doing so good there for a minute Zone, then your prejudism blinds you did you ever think that, able to show blood in the face, may just be a person capable of blushing or showing true embarrasment, when caught doing something wrong, such as lieing cheating stealing adultry etc... in other words, not good at lieing and unable to hide it, or good at lieing and having it eat you inside.
Beleive it or not Kathy, some people have no conciounse in going about these activities, what do you think the chances of them repenting in the flesh are?
Not understanding the prophesy of Israel's (Jacobs) land blessings concerning Ephriam and Mannasah, are your loss not mine. I've explained them out of Gods Word to you, and you reject them; the thing i'll never get about you, is why you even bother me
I don't bother you with the 1/2 truths and slandering that you do on here, i wrote this to Journey and anyone who may care; Not you, thanks for attempting to discredit a nobody, Do you understand what a busybody is?
And as far as The Adam; i thought you were English and communicated in English
How you try to twist what i say into some kind of white man theory, from The First Man of Praise or The First Jewish Man into some kind of white supremecy thing, tells me to advise you again, if you are on some kind of Meds, you better get them checked out, i really think you have a either a serious problem, or your just nuts, Or mabey you are an ex-wife to Arnold Murray, i dunno, you never did answer that one; sure seems like it, with the amount of bitterness you display, if you don't beleive me start a poll on yourself.
did you ever think that, able to show blood in the face, may just be a person capable of blushing or showing true embarrasment, when caught doing something wrong, such as lieing cheating stealing adultry etc... in other words, not good at lieing and unable to hide it, or good at lieing and having it eat you inside.Beleive it or not Kathy, some people have no conciounse in going about these activities, what do you think the chances of them repenting in the flesh are?
Not understanding the prophesy of Israel's (Jacobs) land blessings concerning Ephriam and Mannasah, are your loss not mine. I've explained them out of Gods Word to you, and you reject them; the thing i'll never get about you, is why you even bother me
I don't bother you with the 1/2 truths and slandering that you do on here, i wrote this to Journey and anyone who may care; Not you, thanks for attempting to discredit a nobody, Do you understand what a busybody is?
And as far as The Adam; i thought you were English and communicated in English
How you try to twist what i say into some kind of white man theory, from The First Man of Praise or The First Jewish Man into some kind of white supremecy thing, tells me to advise you again, if you are on some kind of Meds, you better get them checked out, i really think you have a either a serious problem, or your just nuts, Or mabey you are an ex-wife to Arnold Murray, i dunno, you never did answer that one; sure seems like it, with the amount of bitterness you display, if you don't beleive me start a poll on yourself.
but, i'm no longer bothering to point out what the sects and cults are up to.
cheerio.
So Journey you say that you love the Bible and there is a question about it I've been pondering on for a while. What kind of clothes did God give mankind if not Flesh? I mean people aren't born with literal clothes, so why all the pictures of Adam and Eve in animal skins? It talks about clothes in the Bible a lot. like robes of righteousness, etc. anyways just thought it was interesting.
Genesis 3
21 Also for Adam and his wife the LORD God made tunics of skin, and clothed them.
22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
I don't understand why God would place guards around a symbolic tree of life, but anyways..
So we now have two hypothesis of where God got His dirt: Jeruselum and Bethelham?
they were naked in the garden; when God sent them out, he killed animals and covered them with the skins (a foreshadowing of blood sacrifices to cover sins) those are the skins referred to. he covered their nakedness.
lol I'm not disputing just discussing and acknowledging that only God can really say. but i think I'm done. lol
but i think I'm done. lol
This tree is the Word of God in the form of a tree. It's the same as the rock that followed the Israelites, it was a real rock, but also the word of God in the form of a rock that gave them water. Also the same as Michezeidek who is the Word of God, in the form of a person. It's the same as Jesus, the Word of God in the form of a man. The three angels that met Abraham, one of them was the Word of God in the form of an angel. The angel that Abraham bowed down to and called him my Lord.
The tree would of been taken away from the garden after they got kicked out.
The tree of life, if you eat of it, gives you life. The Word of God gives you life if you eat of it. Jesus is life, if you eat his flesh you will get life. Jesus is the tree of life (the word of God) We cannot eat God, but we can eat his word which is the flesh of Jesus Christ.