The Gospels and the Mystery

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Good question. Well, if we look at this, we will see Jesus prophesying what was to come, but not in totality:

Luke 13:6-9
6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:
9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

This fits like a glove the ministry of Jesus, in that He sought to bring Israel into faith in Him as Messiah, and after some three years, they were unfruitful, and so the Father spoke to give them one more year, and if they are not fruitful with faith, they should be cut off. The stoning of Stephen a year after the ascension of Christ was that point at which the Lord cut down that fig tree (Israel) because of their continued rejection of Christ as Messiah.

This brought about a pause to the prophetic program of the Lord and the ushering in of the dispensation of grace, whereby Gentiles could be brought into salvation apart from and in spite of Israel, which also included believing Jews.

It was the Lord's plan all along:

1 Corinthians 2:7-8
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Who were/are those princes? They were/are the prince demons who orchestrated the crucifixion of Christ Jesus.
Curious.
Blood sealed covenants. The blood of Jesus sealed the new covenant.

If not for being crucified how would that have been accomplished by Jesus.?
Who took the sins of the world upon himself on the cross and for all that means. (cursed is anyone hanged on a tree)



So, all of this being in the Lord's knowledge, and His contingency plan hidden in Him until revealed to Paul, nothing went astray from the Lord's plan all along. Why He planned things this way, we have hints about that too from scripture, but that is a longer discussion.



He completed HIs Gospel mission precisely as He knew it would play out. Nothing caught Him by surprise, and never will. That's what adds to the confusion in your question.
Yet,Saul,also called Paul, was hunting down and executing Jews who believed the Gospel.


Ahh, ok. No, I left CFC for good because of a severe pride issue within one of the moderators. I never was a moderator there.

MM
OK,thank you.
 
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I never did say Peter never spoke to any of the Gentiles, but we ALSO know that Paul had to rebuke Peter for his hypocrisy among the Gentiles. So, if Peter were such a giant in building the Gospel among the Gentiles, I sure can't find such a voluminous constellation of Churches mentioned anywhere that were planted by him compared to those of Paul. Perhaps the Lord forgot to have that included in the NT?

MM
Matthew 16:18
 
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It looks like ad hominem is also a part of your forte' like some other here. Attacking even the spirit of another, that just makes no sense as to why you would go there. That's an evil, wicked thing to launch against another, and speaks loud volumes to your not wanting to keep the conversation fixated strictly upon the topics. I will place you on ignore along with all the others of that stripe.

MM
Sorry I'm immune to that kind of guilt tripping.
 
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I guess you ignored the smiley face following my joke, and you seem to ignore Scripture that many of us have been sharing that teach there is only one Gospel and one Kingdom in which we serve God every day of the week. Capice?
I looked at an earlier post and discovered something that might help MM, who said that Paul's description of the Gospel in 1 CR 15:1-4 said that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures, but that Peter's Kingdom Gospel made no mention anywhere for having to believe in these three elements.

Actually, Peter's description is found in Acts 2:22-24, where he speaks of Jesus as working miracles, dying on the cross, and being raised from the dead.

MM also said that Paul never stated the requirement for baptism for remissions of sins not for salvation, as though those are two different things, but Paul himself was baptized per ACTS 9:18, and Peter recognized baptism with the Holy Spirit per ACTS 11:16.

In Corinth Paul preached to Jews and Greeks, baptizing many who believed per ACTS 18:1-8. In ACTS 19:4-10 Paul officiated over rebaptizing believers who had a deficient understanding of the Gospel and then preached about the kingdom of God to both Jews and Greeks in Asia.

And then we have Paul's references to being buried with Christ in baptism in RM 6:4 and CL 2:12. IOW, we have a history of Paul instituting water baptism for remission of sins as representing baptism with the Holy Spirit.