The imminent Demise of the United States of America

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Mitspa

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I had to laugh at this one. Apparently, Chicago had a 'Black Lives Matter' protest that conflicted with the 'Chicago Gay Pride Parade' and the two groups ended up fighting each other... lol.

HAHA! The "progressive" left just keeps on giving. I wish they'd stop being so "good" to us.

Black Lives Matter Protesters Disrupt Chicago Gay Pride Parade
LOL You know its sad that guy rights have perverted civil rights... I don't think many blacks are going to go along with this perverted stuff either?
 
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Rome fell because they became divided. United we stand, divided we fall.

The US will fall because we are divided. not because God will judge us for what a few men did, he may punish them, but he is not going to punish us he does not have to, we are punishing ourselves enough with our sin and the end result of that sin
 

Mitspa

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Rome fell because they became divided. United we stand, divided we fall.

The US will fall because we are divided. not because God will judge us for what a few men did, he may punish them, but he is not going to punish us he does not have to, we are punishing ourselves enough with our sin and the end result of that sin
This Nation has grown strong because it has upheld the morality and truth of Christ. We have now become like Sodom and the righteous are vexed in their souls, just as Lot was.
 
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This Nation has grown strong because it has upheld the morality and truth of Christ. We have now become like Sodom and the righteous are vexed in their souls, just as Lot was.

I agree

But what nation on earth is not like sodom, I mean lets get real.


The end is near. God is not just going to send wrath to the US, he will send it to the world.
 

PennEd

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The moment came for me in 1994. Cheering crowds lining streets as O.J. Simpson went down the freeway on a low speed police chase. The man had killed an innocent man, nearly cut the head off the mother of his children, and was now fleeing police. The shock of seeing the throngs cheering this murderer slapped me into the reality that the beloved USA of my youth was gone forever. I had no prior delusions that America was as pure as the wind driven snow, but I had always believed that we had a moral center, and was a shining example to the world how a society should conduct itself.

Over the yrs since then I saw times where I thought maybe we could get it back, like how we came together after 9/11. But I never fully got the sense that we repented as a nation and returned to a moral center. My heart is still heavy as we see the downward spiral we are currently in.
But I'm reminded of the book and movie The Lord of the Rings. In it there is a scene where Denethor the Steward of Gondor looks out from the walls of the city with great despair at the gathered evil orc army, and convinced they will be destroyed proceeds to kill himself. He did not believe in the only real hope they ever had, which was a hobbit dropping a ring in the fires of Mt. Doom.
We CANNOT be like Denether! We have a MUCH greater and more powerful hope in Jesus Christ than a hobbit. So take courage my brothers and sisters, and despair not. GREATER IS HE WHO LIVES IN YOU THAN HE WHO IS IN THE WORLD!!!
 
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Citing the evidence that will lead to God's judgment of the this nation, or of the world, is not hand-wringing and despair-wailing. It is a legitimate alarm that needs to be sounded. Someone says "why think of judgment." We think of judgment because it is coming, most assuredly.

When a tornado roars across the Kansas plains and into Missouri, we don't stand around watching it eat up block after block, house after house, until finally it is almost upon our house and the neighbors' houses. We sound the alarm! We mark its progress, letting people know that it is getting ever closer and they need to be preparing for its ultimate arrival.

"Roll up our sleeves and get to work"?? Man, what makes you think that isn't what is already being done, is long underway? And the warnings are part of the work!

If you haven't already "rolled up your sleeves," if you aren't already "getting to the work" of the Lord, you're too late to be of any earthly good! We needed to have been in work mode for years to have the impact that needs to be made on this nation to awaken the sleeping to the truth of Christ.

As I write this, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif) is being interviewed on Fox News by Martha MacCallum about the SCOTUS decision finding a "right" to gay marriage in the Constitution. She made the statement, "America is changing. For the better?" McCarthy said he believes it will eventually and always change for the better.

It is men like him who are asleep. It is those who see ultimate good in the future of the world who need to be told of the coming judgment. I've been doing it for years.

Don't tell me not to think about it. Don't tell me not to talk about it. It is the ultimate point that must be made to a lost world.
 
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JesusIsAll

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I agree

But what nation on earth is not like sodom, I mean lets get real.


The end is near. God is not just going to send wrath to the US, he will send it to the world.
There is an ominous principle, that the more given, the more expected. Being a more Christian nation than many, rebellion against God could go very badly!

Luke 12:46-48
The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

But true, no nation is going to escape the tribulation.
 

JesusIsAll

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Citing the evidence that will lead to God's judgment of the this nation, or of the world, is not hand-wringing and despair-wailing. It is a legitimate alarm that needs to be sounded. Someone says "why think of judgment." We think of judgment because it is coming, most assuredly.

Don't tell me not to think about it. Don't tell me not to talk about it. It is the ultimate point that must be made to a lost world.
Ezekiel 33:3-6 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul. But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.
 
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LOL You know its sad that guy rights have perverted civil rights... I don't think many blacks are going to go along with this perverted stuff either?
In the land of the Left, homosexuality trumps anything Black.
 

JesusIsAll

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I had no prior delusions that America was as pure as the wind driven snow, but I had always believed that we had a moral center, and was a shining example to the world how a society should conduct itself.
It is a mistaken notion the nation was ever all sweetness and light. There were the heinous evils of slavery, the genocide of native Americans, the Roaring Twenties pretty decadent, etc. But it's also pretty clear, on a moral level, homosexual "marriage" is kicking up the officially sanctioned moral depravity a huge notch. We are going from some semblance of a Christian nation to some serious competition with Sodom and Gomorrah. In any event, as you well point out, we serve a greater God than all of that.

Isaiah 26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

Revelation 22:11-13 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
 

JesusIsAll

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It's a pity for you then, that the New Testament is also against homosexuality eg. Jesus and His Apostles.
An interesting characteristic of the Antichrist, seeking to change fundamental things, to the devil's ends, of course,

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
 
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The SCOTUS has sealed the fate of the American people and this Country with their latest ruling on homosexual marriages. God will not be mocked. This Country of ours was on a slippery slope of sin and degradation prior to this ruling, which now opens the door to any and all sexual perversion declaring it to be legally acceptable as normal behavior. The lost have turned their backs on him to live a self-serving life of lustful wantonness for their own pleasures. They justify their behavior by proclaiming that they are not hurting anyone and that they have a right to whatever life style they choose. God will now leave us to our own demise, using other nations to lay this Country and people to waste. The American people have opted to live lives of covertness, selfishness, materialistic depravity, and uncontrolled lust with no bounds of morality. Now it’s time for God’s retribution, and the gates of hell will be marked for all the lost souls with a sign marked "Welcome children of Satan".
I have been told that the holy scriptures have been proven to be flawed by numerous theologians and scholars in the writings pertaining the homosexuality. I can only assume that the person that declared this statement would maintain that all other sections of the scriptures are accurate. What a self-serving line of hogwash that was. God does not make mistakes, and the scriptures are from him as told through the disciples. It was said to me that I must believe that I am an eminent scholar since I chose to deny this statement. My retort was simple, my faith is stronger then their flawed opinion. Other such flawed opinions by alleged scholars are; the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, and global warming.
If there are critics that will read this post, my justification is enumerated with the following scriptures. They have not been edited of altered in anyway, the are verbatim from the scriptures.

 
 
The order of demise of two nations and their similarities
 
ROME
: 1.) Conquered the known world as a Republic .
2.) Switched to Democracy - Rule of the people.
3.) Grew base.
4.) Embraced sexual perversion
5.) Fell as an empire.
USA
: 1.) Went into WWII ranked 14[SUP]th[/SUP] as a Republic.
2.) Embraced the rule of the people - Democracy.
3.) Has grown base.
4.) Has embraced sexual perversion the last straw
5.) Is falling and will be JUDGED.
Homosexuality:
Leviticus 20:13 King James Version (KJV)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Natural Progression of Sexual Perversion:

Leviticus 20:10-23King James Version (KJV)

10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
12 And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them.
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
14 And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you.
15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.
16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
17 And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's nakedness; he shall bear his iniquity.
18 And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.
19 And thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister, nor of thy father's sister: for he uncovereth his near kin: they shall bear their iniquity.
20 And if a man shall lie with his uncle's wife, he hath uncovered his uncle's nakedness: they shall bear their sin; they shall die childless.
21 And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother's nakedness; they shall be childless.
22 Ye shall therefore keep all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: that the land, whither I bring you to dwell therein, spue you not out.
23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Romans 1:18-32King James Version (KJV)

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 
 
2 Peter 2:4-10King James Version (KJV)

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
 
 
 
 
Jude 1:5-7King James Version (KJV)

5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire
Crucifying Christ sealed the fate of Rome. I suspect the same deal happens to America.

And then again Jonah went to Nineveh because God had judge the country wanting greatly. Nineveh rpented so last longer. Not forever, which also might be where God is taking America.

Ultimately, God has long ago proven people are beyond saving -- nation style. He's gone to saving some in every nation instead.

Hard to believe, but America never made it into the Good Book, so it really isn't any thing special to God -- just some of its people are. If we'd just get over this mentality that America is the City on the Hill, what happens next will be a bit less bitter.
 

JesusIsAll

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The Bible-thumping liberal isn't a Hebrew scholar. Yes, I can use Leviticus to prove God calls homosexuality "sin" and quite plainly.
Haven't you also seen it said (myself a number of times) it's just Leviticus at any rate, not Christianity, that condemns homosexuality? Clearly, somebody never read Romans 1 to the end, for starters.
 
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This Nation has grown strong because it has upheld the morality and truth of Christ. We have now become like Sodom and the righteous are vexed in their souls, just as Lot was.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "morality," since slavery was an issue from the formation of the United States. Additionally, one could potentially view our rebellion against England as immoral since the bible tells us to honor our civil governments. And then, of course, there is the treatment of the native peoples at the hands of the American gov't.

When were we moral again?