The Kerygma - God's Requirement for Salvation

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There are so many cross reference verses! Much more than normal...

Luke 1:78-79
because of the tender mercy of our God, by which the Dawn will visit us from on high, / to shine
on those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the path of peace.”


God guides us.

2 Corinthians 4:6
For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made His light shine in our hearts
to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.


He gives us the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 5:8
For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light,

Acts 26:18
to open their eyes, so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God,
that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those sanctified by faith in Me.’


He opens our eyes

Colossians 1:13
He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of His beloved Son,

That one explains itself. It needs a panel! @Pilgrimshope

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Yes all true

God guides us.

Yes sister he tells us the truth so we o ow which to choose like this

“And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s how god guides us, but not if we believe this instead

“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:4-5‬ ‭

God has always spoken to man that’s how he guides us . Notice only man conmunicates with words like God does ? It’s how he’s guiding us he’s always been he guided cain as well but cain rejected him and chose another answer to his problem

“And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?

and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭4:6-7‬ ‭

he does indeed guide us he’s been telling us the truth from the beginning
Sister I’ve never said God doesnt guide us in saying hearing the gospel is our guiding light to follow.

for instance

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is God guiding us into all truth but not if we dont hear it for what it is like cain or Adam and Eve.

It’s never that God hasn’t done his part so we can choose good , it’s tbat we keep choosing evil because we’re corrupted by the world and temptations of the devil in our lives . God is always there but some never reach out for him he’s there with open arms for mankind inviting us all

“and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; ( this was all planned and determined by him sis for the following purpose )

that they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: ( his plan for nations in place and time so that we could reach out and find him who’s near to us all )

for in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring….

‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:26-28, 30-31‬ ‭

What I’m saying sister is God guides us and helps us and strengthens us with his word. Changes us with his word just like he spoke in the beginning

“For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭5:42‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ,

and him crucified.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭2:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭28:30-31‬ ‭

sister my point in quoting these

“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:35‬ ‭

Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:1, 3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true,

and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ.

This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:

It’s all about hearing and believing the gospel sister even when it reaches us to repent or to change our ways he’s patient and forebearing calling us to repentance

He soeaks to guide us and we either need and accept his word because we believe . Or we hear it and choose other things we’ve heard rather than the gospel Jesus sent forth to save and redeem us


I’m not saying God doesn’t help or give us strength or enable us , I’m saying that’s all in believing the gospel and learning about Jesus

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:27-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

he’s calling sinners to repentance with his words in the gospel is what I’m saying I personally don’t believe he’s going to do more now to enable one man to believe and another not to believe

He did that to israel because they foret rejected him and defiled all his many merciful chances so he could choose another people
 
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he does indeed guide us he’s been telling us the truth from the beginning
Sister I’ve never said God doesnt guide us in saying hearing the gospel is our guiding light to follow.
Yes, but how can we hear without ears to hear? People were told to circumcise their ears. They were commanded to circumcise their hearts too. Then God said He would do it. Jesus came to give sight to the blind, unstop the ears of the deaf, etc etc it is not all physical, He raises people to new life, that is done for us, our hearts are circumcised specifically so we may love God, the natural man is incapable of obeying, that is explicitly stated, cannot hear or receive, they are blinded, then, God gives them a new heart, and they can choose rightly from their new heart, whereas the natural man is hostile to God.
 
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What is God's requirement for salvation (GRFS)?
There are no requirements for salvation because God does it all. 1 Cor 1: 29-31 That no flesh should glory in His presence. But of (by) Him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of (by) God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption; That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
That means such ideas like: I made the right decision, I made it, I did the right things, I believed the right things, and it was I who chose to believe will be preventing people from being in His presence (entering heaven).
 

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Thank you for the inspiration @Pilgrimshope ! I hope you and yours are well .:)

This is the first time posting and will likely change a bit over time...

heh, that collar bone looks too sharp! :unsure::giggle: