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Agreed. No version actually saves a soul.
Correct, now get your act together and speak truth about the KJ version of Scripture. Your former words betray you and paint a differing picture than the above. Why not just say you misspoke? You do it often, 'fess up. 
Instead of signing "In his name" sign it "In the name of the KJV, amen" because it's more accurate that way.
DiscipleDave responded: Who is telling you these lies? Oh wait, that is sarcasm, i get it now.
Not happening on my side of the monitor.
Sorry, you don't, it wasn't sarcasm.
Sorry, you don't, it wasn't sarcasm.
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DiscipleDave
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All of it TRUTH.
Are you saying it is not? For over 400 years the KJV was called the Word of God, how is that not having God's name on it? If there was a "Word of hornetguy" how is that not hornetguy's NAME on it? If there was a book known as "the word of satan" how is satans NAME not on that book? If you don't understand what God's NAME on the KJV means, would it not have been more Godly to merely ask me what do i mean when i say that? or is mocking something you practice?
i see, so instead of trying to help me, it is better to just blow me off, right? If you think i am in error, then would it not be the Godly thing to try to help me in my thinking? Or satans way, and do nothing but mock?
i thank Jesus Christ that He is my judge, i thank the Holy Ghost that i write what the Holy Spirit of Truth persuades me to write. What is it to me, if you think it is goofy. Love you Brother
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DiscipleDave
Are you saying it is not? For over 400 years the KJV was called the Word of God, how is that not having God's name on it? If there was a "Word of hornetguy" how is that not hornetguy's NAME on it? If there was a book known as "the word of satan" how is satans NAME not on that book? If you don't understand what God's NAME on the KJV means, would it not have been more Godly to merely ask me what do i mean when i say that? or is mocking something you practice?
i see, so instead of trying to help me, it is better to just blow me off, right? If you think i am in error, then would it not be the Godly thing to try to help me in my thinking? Or satans way, and do nothing but mock?
i thank Jesus Christ that He is my judge, i thank the Holy Ghost that i write what the Holy Spirit of Truth persuades me to write. What is it to me, if you think it is goofy. Love you Brother
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DiscipleDave
By itself, there is nothing really wrong with this statement. When you extrapolate it and try to assert that all other translations are not also the word of God, your statement becomes unacceptable. You are welcome to your preference, but when you try to convince others that your preference is exclusively correct, you are stepping outside of both rationality and upright Christian behaviour. Why can you not simply prefer the KJV and allow others to prefer other translations without trying to tell them they are wrong for doing so?
Is it not written that Jesus is the Son of God the Father?
Is it not written that Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN Son?
Jesus was made by His Father. That is the TRUTH, and is not an abomination.
Why does God call Jesus His Son? Because God created Him. God the Father created only two things. The Father created the Son (Jesus Christ) and His second-born (The Holy Spirit). Jesus and the Holy Ghost created all things that are made thereafter.
Your statements are heretical.
So it is clear where you stand on the matter, but can you show any Scriptures that is contrary to what i have said? No? Didn't think you could, why? Because the TRUTH does not contradict itself.
In the Beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word (Jesus) was with God (Father) and the Word (Jesus) was God (part of the Godhead)
Jesus existed before Abraham, He existed before the Earth was even created.
True, even as the Husband and Wife are ONE. Even as we are ONE with the Father and Jesus, we are all ONE. Doesn't Scriptures interpret Scriptures? Understanding the verse the Husband and Wife are no longer twain but ONE FLESH, then you understand how the Father and Son are also ONE God.
Jesus Christ is my God, He is my Savior, He is my Father, He is my master. Even though He is all those things to me, He is not the FATHER in Heaven.
Amen, Jesus Christ is the first, i said as much. He is the very first thing ever created. He is the First. Father, Son Jesus, Holy Spirit, us Saints = ONE GOD, and there is none other God than that ONE. This is True.
Yes. God is and always has been and always will be about LOVE. God is LOVE.
i have no ideal what Arianism means, and have no desire to look it up, i am sure it means something bad.
lol NONE of those verses you quote prove that what i said is heretic. But for some reason in your mind, you think they do. Jesus is God incarnate, When the Son of the Father came to the Earth to be flesh on the Earth, Jesus was indeed God incarnate into the flesh of a human man.
God the Father created Jesus Christ. there is not one verse that is contrary to that Statement, now your interpretations of verses may contradict that statement. But Scriptures does not contradict it. God told me these things, and not one verse contradicts what He told me. Jesus Christ sits on the right hand of the Father in Heaven. Jesus Christ is the firstborn Son of the Father in Heaven. Scriptures plainly even teaches that the Father gave His only begotten Son to be a sacrifice for us. That is most certainly TRUE, the Father in Heaven sent down His ONLY begotten SON to be God incarnate on the Earth.
Is Jesus the Father <---- click to see article.
i don't want to argue my position. God was clear when He told me, it is not my place to convince anyone of the TRUTH, but merely to reveal it to a generation who will not receive it. i have revealed the TRUTH to you, what is it to me if you don't believe what He has told me. But if you want to discuss it more, i will try to respond to anyone who asks me something.
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DiscipleDave
Is it not written that Jesus is the Son of God the Father?
Is it not written that Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN Son?
Jesus was made by His Father. That is the TRUTH, and is not an abomination.
So you think begotten means something else. Show me Scriptures that teach what begotten means? If then you show me interpretations of men and what men say begotten means, you are just blowing smoke. You think begotten means something else, show me Scriptures that interpret begotten to mean something else, other than what God plainly says.
Scriptures plainly teach that the Father in Heaven has a Son, and His Name is Jesus Christ. ANYONE who does not believe that, is not fit for the Kingdom of God. Those who believe Scriptures will be accepted with Him, those who deny Scriptures will be rejected. Scriptures plainly over and over and over again teach that Jesus Christ is the Son of the Father in Heaven. Scriptures teach that the Father in Heaven sent down to Earth His ONLY Son Jesus Christ. Those who do not believe that the Father God in Heaven, did not actually send down His Son God Jesus Christ, denies Scriptures. Why, because they hold on to false doctrines that satan has sprung up in the last days. Father and Jesus are ONE, but they are separate entities. Husband and Wife are ONE, but they are separate entities. Believe Scriptures NOT what men teach.
lol, you accuse what i say as heresy, but give no Scriptures to support your accusation. Why is that? Because what i am saying does not contradict any Scriptures, but contradict the doctrines that you hold on to, the teachings that you heard from men. If then what i say is heresy, then reveal the Scriptures that prove it is heresy? You can't can you? because there aren't any.
God told me He was.
It only takes a little logical reasoning to grasp this understanding.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word (Jesus),and the Word (Jesus) was WITH God (Father), and the Word (Jesus) was God (ONE).
Did you notice those in the last days generation have a tendency to totally and altogether NOT SEE the highlighted statement in the Word of God. That in the beginning Jesus was WITH God the Father. Convient thing to leave out, in order to hold on to false doctrines.
Joh 1:2 The same (Jesus) was in the beginning WITH God (the Father). yet another verse confirming the importance of the second part of the previous verse. That in the beginning Jesus was with His Father.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
So Jesus made ALL things that were MADE. The Father makes Jesus His Son, and Jesus makes all things that are made. The Father did not make the Universe, Jesus did. The Father did not make Heaven, Jesus did. The Father did not make Angels, Jesus did. The Father did not make the Earth, Jesus did. The Father did not make humans, Jesus did. Jesus made all things that are made.
i say that the Father has a Son called Jesus Christ, and you say i am teaching heresy. Does Scriptures also teach heresy. The following are verses which PLAINLY teach that Jesus Christ is the Son of the Father in Heaven.
Joh_20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. (Jesus Himself just called the Father, God. Wake up people Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, actually has a Father in Heaven, EXACTLY like Scriptures says He does)
Rom_15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co_8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
2Co_1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;
2Co_11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not. (Jesus Christ has a God? What? Oh yeah, His Father duhhh)
Eph_1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Eph_1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Eph_3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Col_1:3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
1Pe_1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1Jn_1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.
2Jn_1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
What, if i say that, it is Heresy, but if Scriptures says it, it is not heresy. What is Heresy, is you calling that which is TRUE, heresy. The Father in Heaven had a Son called Jesus Christ, that is what Scriptures teach, that is what the Apostles taught, that is what God told me also. You call it heresy, i call it TRUTH. The Father in Heaven, created His Son Jesus Christ. Who then made all things that were made. Woe to this generation who would rather hold on to false teachings then to believe what the Word of God actually says. Woe to them indeed. The Word of god is TRUTH, the word of men is fallible.
Yeah, uh-huh.
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DiscipleDave
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If i and 20 other learned people get together and come up with the DD version, is that version also God's written word to the same extent that the the KJV is? (i hope your answer is "NO")
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DiscipleDave
God says:
2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
SovereignGrace says:
2SovereignGrace_3:16 All scripture except I John 5:7 is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Sorry, i choose to believe the Word of God and what it says, EVERY VERSE, and not what men say and teach we should believe or not believe. Sorry, God _1_ human _0_.
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DiscipleDave
2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
SovereignGrace says:
2SovereignGrace_3:16 All scripture except I John 5:7 is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Sorry, i choose to believe the Word of God and what it says, EVERY VERSE, and not what men say and teach we should believe or not believe. Sorry, God _1_ human _0_.
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DiscipleDave
Tell me, if God of the Universe wanted to add a verse to His Word, could He do so? He Can't? So if God wanted to add a verse to His Word, are you saying He would have to also add it in all the old manuscripts? God is God and He can do whatever He wants to do, He is God.
Our Father in Heaven loves us, because we are His children, He would never leave us instructions that we have to rely on the learned to go back to the ancient manuscripts, to learn His Truths. The KJV Word of God is all the children of God need. God does not want us, nor desire us to become Learned in order to understand His Truths. i have copies of the manuscripts, books called "The Lost Books" i have studied Hebrew and Greek, all of it DUNG. The Holy Ghost with the KJV Word of God can reveal to a person His Mysteries in 10 minutes over what it would take a learned person to learn his/her whole life. Those who seek TRUTHS some other way then through the Holy Spirit of TRUTH ALONE, will never find it.
It is written "Ask and you shall receive it" But what does this generation do? They see a verse they do not understand and instead of asking God for the understanding of that verse, and be patient to receive it, they go to the Hebrew, they go to the Greek, they go to the internet to learn the understanding some other way, than the Holy Spirit revealing it to them. And you wander why there are so many false doctrines today.
Want to know and understand the Word of God, seek God, NOT what other men say and teach. Seek God, NOT Hebrew and/or Greek. Seek God, not from the old manuscripts. Woe to this generation who is trying to find understanding of the Word of God some other way than God set it up for them to find it. These are left wide open to believe false doctrines. Read the Word of God 80 times front to back, and then the Holy Ghost will start teaching you things, or is reading it 80 times to much work for you? Those who Truly seek the TRUTH, and have patience, will receive all they desire from the KJV Word of God. But those who seek it some other way, via easier translations, Hebrew, Greek, ancient manuscripts, other people, internet etc... .. ..will most certainly be more prone to accepting false doctrine masked as Truth.
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DiscipleDave
Our Father in Heaven loves us, because we are His children, He would never leave us instructions that we have to rely on the learned to go back to the ancient manuscripts, to learn His Truths. The KJV Word of God is all the children of God need. God does not want us, nor desire us to become Learned in order to understand His Truths. i have copies of the manuscripts, books called "The Lost Books" i have studied Hebrew and Greek, all of it DUNG. The Holy Ghost with the KJV Word of God can reveal to a person His Mysteries in 10 minutes over what it would take a learned person to learn his/her whole life. Those who seek TRUTHS some other way then through the Holy Spirit of TRUTH ALONE, will never find it.
It is written "Ask and you shall receive it" But what does this generation do? They see a verse they do not understand and instead of asking God for the understanding of that verse, and be patient to receive it, they go to the Hebrew, they go to the Greek, they go to the internet to learn the understanding some other way, than the Holy Spirit revealing it to them. And you wander why there are so many false doctrines today.
Want to know and understand the Word of God, seek God, NOT what other men say and teach. Seek God, NOT Hebrew and/or Greek. Seek God, not from the old manuscripts. Woe to this generation who is trying to find understanding of the Word of God some other way than God set it up for them to find it. These are left wide open to believe false doctrines. Read the Word of God 80 times front to back, and then the Holy Ghost will start teaching you things, or is reading it 80 times to much work for you? Those who Truly seek the TRUTH, and have patience, will receive all they desire from the KJV Word of God. But those who seek it some other way, via easier translations, Hebrew, Greek, ancient manuscripts, other people, internet etc... .. ..will most certainly be more prone to accepting false doctrine masked as Truth.
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DiscipleDave
For over 400 people Our Brothers and Sisters of the Lord Jesus Christ called the KJV the Word of God, are you saying they were foolish people?
Oh wait, they were not foolish then, but when new versions pop up in the last days, then if you believe what they believed to be the Word of God, then you are foolish?
Your thinking is flawed. Wasn't foolish for 400 years, but is now? How does that make any sense at all?
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DiscipleDave
Oh wait, they were not foolish then, but when new versions pop up in the last days, then if you believe what they believed to be the Word of God, then you are foolish?
Your thinking is flawed. Wasn't foolish for 400 years, but is now? How does that make any sense at all?
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DiscipleDave
This is Relativism at its finest. There is no standard Word of God in existence, so anything goes, and everything becomes the "standard". So here is the mockery of the "standard" when it comes to Bibles. You can take your pick from five "standards":
English Standard Version
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
New American Standard Bible
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
International Standard Version
In the beginning, God created the universe.
American Standard Version
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Since there is no Hebrew word there which translates into "universe" this has got to be the standard! And the Revised Standard Version has gone the way of the dodo.
English Standard Version
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
New American Standard Bible
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
International Standard Version
In the beginning, God created the universe.
American Standard Version
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Since there is no Hebrew word there which translates into "universe" this has got to be the standard! And the Revised Standard Version has gone the way of the dodo.
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