The King James Bible
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The topic was was memorizing Bible verses and locations in general. Exodus 20 was a simple example to illustrate a point. Here is another one. The first man Adam was earthly (1 Corinthians 15:47) and died Genesis 5 where we read about the book of his generation. He lived 930 years and the 930th chapter of the Bible is Matthew 1:1 where we read about the book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the second man. It is the 40th book of the Bible and the first of 4 gospels. I see order in all this. The numbers help me remember details. Maybe it isn't for everybody but I will take memorization over google any day.
I want to ask all the KJVonly people: What if they decided to make a new translation from the same manuscripts that were used in the KJV, but they decided to make it more modern english, would that be acceptable?
What im asking is: Do the manuscripts really matter? Or is it just the fact that KJV is KJV and everything else isnt? This is circular argument at its best if thats the case.
What im asking is: Do the manuscripts really matter? Or is it just the fact that KJV is KJV and everything else isnt? This is circular argument at its best if thats the case.
Mildly interesting, but when you consider the following facts, the relevance slips into oblivion. The Hebrew OT does not have 39 books. All the text is there, but Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles are each one book. Further, the chapter divisions weren't in the originals.
Please, if you're going to assert meaning to numbers, stick to the ones that were present in the original languages.
Please, if you're going to assert meaning to numbers, stick to the ones that were present in the original languages.
Have you ever asked a Chinese person about this? I suggest you do. Time is nothing more than a convention. Location references are nothing more than a convention.
Nobody has bothered to challenge the existence of the patterns... possibly because nobody sees in them the value you ascribe to them. You keep asking for people to challenge their existence, but you haven't responded adequately to the challenges to their relevance.
Nobody has bothered to challenge the existence of the patterns... possibly because nobody sees in them the value you ascribe to them. You keep asking for people to challenge their existence, but you haven't responded adequately to the challenges to their relevance.
Scoffers? All that most of us want is some kind of "relevance" shown for all of this numerical jibber-jabber.
The OP's assertion that it "means something" does not constitute relevance.
He has proven nothing about numerical patterns that "show" us that the KJV is "the only inspired translation" of God's word.... which is what he was asserting in the first place.
This is similar to the people who claim that similarities in bone structure and arrangement between species is definite proof of "evolution".... when in reality, all it shows is that all beings were created by the same creator.
What possible relevance, or impact on our salvation could these numbers and strange combinations of numbers make?
Like the guy that discovers, 24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day..... hmmmmm, coincidence?
The OP's assertion that it "means something" does not constitute relevance.
He has proven nothing about numerical patterns that "show" us that the KJV is "the only inspired translation" of God's word.... which is what he was asserting in the first place.
This is similar to the people who claim that similarities in bone structure and arrangement between species is definite proof of "evolution".... when in reality, all it shows is that all beings were created by the same creator.
What possible relevance, or impact on our salvation could these numbers and strange combinations of numbers make?
Like the guy that discovers, 24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day..... hmmmmm, coincidence?
Scoffers? All that most of us want is some kind of "relevance" shown for all of this numerical jibber-jabber.
The OP's assertion that it "means something" does not constitute relevance.
He has proven nothing about numerical patterns that "show" us that the KJV is "the only inspired translation" of God's word.... which is what he was asserting in the first place.
This is similar to the people who claim that similarities in bone structure and arrangement between species is definite proof of "evolution".... when in reality, all it shows is that all beings were created by the same creator.
What possible relevance, or impact on our salvation could these numbers and strange combinations of numbers make?
Like the guy that discovers, 24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day..... hmmmmm, coincidence?
The OP's assertion that it "means something" does not constitute relevance.
He has proven nothing about numerical patterns that "show" us that the KJV is "the only inspired translation" of God's word.... which is what he was asserting in the first place.
This is similar to the people who claim that similarities in bone structure and arrangement between species is definite proof of "evolution".... when in reality, all it shows is that all beings were created by the same creator.
What possible relevance, or impact on our salvation could these numbers and strange combinations of numbers make?
Like the guy that discovers, 24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day..... hmmmmm, coincidence?
the way I see it is a lot of people want some kind of relevance before knowing God on different levels, very few people take leaps of faith, seek and you shall find doesn't mean the same for everybody, so before scoffering the poster just merely say I'm not into the numbers thing is all that is needed. but you know how people are they got to keep up that reputation as being part of the in crowd , hahahaha.....
144 or 144,000, hmmmmm is it a coincidence there's 1,440 minutes in a 24 hours?