The Law Debacle Resolved
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when ellen shows up, maybe she can tell you...
I find ignore works best when you actually ignore...LOL!
obviously, some are using the button in a self-defeating manner
like kids at a horror movie..they peep between their fingers , quicky cover up their face...peep again...ultimately, they get the full benefit of the horror
You are doing your own private works, to rid the kingdom of the evil legalists who are spoiling your view of Gods Kingdom.
It is the legalists who have caused Gods kingdom to fail. That is what you are saying.
So you are taking on this work, by yourself, not called by God, anointed, or given the mission, to sort out His kingdom.
There is only one shepherd and everyone else is a thief.
Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
John 10:7-10
EG- you say you follow Jesus yet you desire to destroy people of the kingdom. You claim to believe God is sovereign yet you feel He needs you to rid the church of legalism, but as He states, His children listen to His voice.
You have a role and ministry that does not exist, is not empowered by the Holy Spirit, and you claim you know Jesus.
This means you are simply deluded. You have created a list of beliefs which decide who is of the Kingdom and who is not, which is saying fine points of theoretical belief define your salvation. It is like saying a marriage is a marriage only if the people believe they can never be divorced, else they were never married and you will prove it.
I hope no-one listens to you, because you are just a damaged person who is blaming the falling away of friends on views of morality. But you claim to believe people can never fall away, so why is this an issue to you? So many contradictions, I fear for your mental health.
I do not know why you call a loving brother your enemy, but the Lord needs to do a work in you, so you leave the Kingdom to Him. The Kingdom has always been in the Lords hands, and he has always defended His people.
Do you trust Him so you can just be a blessing, and share His love, to be a light on a hill, a beacon in the world of things of value and goodness?
It is the legalists who have caused Gods kingdom to fail. That is what you are saying.
So you are taking on this work, by yourself, not called by God, anointed, or given the mission, to sort out His kingdom.
There is only one shepherd and everyone else is a thief.
Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
John 10:7-10
EG- you say you follow Jesus yet you desire to destroy people of the kingdom. You claim to believe God is sovereign yet you feel He needs you to rid the church of legalism, but as He states, His children listen to His voice.
You have a role and ministry that does not exist, is not empowered by the Holy Spirit, and you claim you know Jesus.
This means you are simply deluded. You have created a list of beliefs which decide who is of the Kingdom and who is not, which is saying fine points of theoretical belief define your salvation. It is like saying a marriage is a marriage only if the people believe they can never be divorced, else they were never married and you will prove it.
I hope no-one listens to you, because you are just a damaged person who is blaming the falling away of friends on views of morality. But you claim to believe people can never fall away, so why is this an issue to you? So many contradictions, I fear for your mental health.
I do not know why you call a loving brother your enemy, but the Lord needs to do a work in you, so you leave the Kingdom to Him. The Kingdom has always been in the Lords hands, and he has always defended His people.
Do you trust Him so you can just be a blessing, and share His love, to be a light on a hill, a beacon in the world of things of value and goodness?
I love you - I love you to, let us build something good together.
Finding the right people to work in the right way is hard, with integrity and determination.
If you have never fallen in love is is easy to fake it in public, if you mimic being nice, on the surface, by a set of rules.
This is what Jesus says to churches like this
Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken the love you had at first. Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.
Rev 2:4-5
You cannot make something that was dead alive, because there is nothing to renew.
But the enemy can use your animosity against fellow believers as a further reason to hurl abuse at them. So rather than helping the church, you are bringing persecution to it.
So think carefully how you can encourage those who are weak but are desiring good things in good ways, for that is the ministry of the good news and of Jesus.
Finding the right people to work in the right way is hard, with integrity and determination.
If you have never fallen in love is is easy to fake it in public, if you mimic being nice, on the surface, by a set of rules.
This is what Jesus says to churches like this
Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken the love you had at first. Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.
Rev 2:4-5
You cannot make something that was dead alive, because there is nothing to renew.
But the enemy can use your animosity against fellow believers as a further reason to hurl abuse at them. So rather than helping the church, you are bringing persecution to it.
So think carefully how you can encourage those who are weak but are desiring good things in good ways, for that is the ministry of the good news and of Jesus.
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You talk like a Christian, Yet you are the theif, Your robbing people of the true gospel of Christ. to try to impose your own self righteous gospel. which is not of grace at all.
Your more worried about sin, then who needs saved so they can over come sin.
Keep talking man, You keep making it harder on yourself.
His sheep do hear his voice, That's why they can never lose salvation. because even if they walk away, He will leave the whole flock and go get them, His true sheep here his voice, and they follow him.
Yet you admit, one can lose salvation. Meaning God does not have the power you just said he did, And his sheep may forget his vice and not listen.
You do not read the bible do you?
Jesus fought it, Paul fought it, Peter fought it, James and john fought it. I am just carrying on the fight against modern day Pharisees.
Well it is obvious you do not trust him, Do us all a favor. Stop trusting in yourself. repent and place your faith in Christ. Then after you have been born again for awhile. and actually have experienced what we have, Come talk to me, You will see what I see, and may even join the fight against modern day phariseeism.
Your more worried about sin, then who needs saved so they can over come sin.
Keep talking man, You keep making it harder on yourself.
His sheep do hear his voice, That's why they can never lose salvation. because even if they walk away, He will leave the whole flock and go get them, His true sheep here his voice, and they follow him.
Yet you admit, one can lose salvation. Meaning God does not have the power you just said he did, And his sheep may forget his vice and not listen.
You do not read the bible do you?
Jesus fought it, Paul fought it, Peter fought it, James and john fought it. I am just carrying on the fight against modern day Pharisees.
Well it is obvious you do not trust him, Do us all a favor. Stop trusting in yourself. repent and place your faith in Christ. Then after you have been born again for awhile. and actually have experienced what we have, Come talk to me, You will see what I see, and may even join the fight against modern day phariseeism.
L
Proverbs 1:11 If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause:
Proverbs 1:12 Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit:
Proverbs 1:13 We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil:
Proverbs 1:14 Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse:
Proverbs 1:15 My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path:
Proverbs 1:12 Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit:
Proverbs 1:13 We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil:
Proverbs 1:14 Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse:
Proverbs 1:15 My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path:
Galatians 5:10-13 KJV
[10] I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be. [11] And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased. [12] I would they were even cut off which trouble you. [13] For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
[10] I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be. [11] And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased. [12] I would they were even cut off which trouble you. [13] For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
K
I prefer the whole scripture....
Holman Christian Study Bible.
5 Christ has liberated us to be free. Stand firm then and don't submit again to a yoke of slavery.
2 Take note! I, Paul, tell you that if you get yourselves circumcised, Christ will not benefit you at all.
3 Again I testify to every man who gets himself circumcised that he is obligated to keep the entire law.
4 You who are trying to be justified by the law are alienated from Christ; you have fallen from grace.
5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness.
6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision accomplishes anything;what matters is faith working through love.
7 You were running well. Who prevented you from obeying the truth?
8 This persuasion did not come from the One who called you.
9 A little yeast leavens the whole lump of dough.
10 I have confidence in the Lord you will not accept any other view. But whoever it is that is confusing you will pay the penalty.
11 Now brothers, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished.
12 I wish those who are disturbing you might also get themselves castrated!
Holman Christian Study Bible.
5 Christ has liberated us to be free. Stand firm then and don't submit again to a yoke of slavery.
2 Take note! I, Paul, tell you that if you get yourselves circumcised, Christ will not benefit you at all.
3 Again I testify to every man who gets himself circumcised that he is obligated to keep the entire law.
4 You who are trying to be justified by the law are alienated from Christ; you have fallen from grace.
5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness.
6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision accomplishes anything;what matters is faith working through love.
7 You were running well. Who prevented you from obeying the truth?
8 This persuasion did not come from the One who called you.
9 A little yeast leavens the whole lump of dough.
10 I have confidence in the Lord you will not accept any other view. But whoever it is that is confusing you will pay the penalty.
11 Now brothers, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished.
12 I wish those who are disturbing you might also get themselves castrated!
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