THE LAW OF MOSES VS THE LAW OF CHRIST

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I didn’t ask for help. All my posts are intended to create a healthy discussion.

Galatians 2:21 (NASB95): “I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”
That is not true. You said I had deceiving spirits in another thread and the whole time it was someone else who said what you attributed to me.

That, is not helpful nor does it create any sort of healthy discussion. Get a grip!

It seems you may indeed need help whether you ask for it or not.
 

ResidentAlien

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The law of Moses was based on works. The law of Christ is based on faith. It's just that easy and that simple. You can't have faith in Christ + works of the law; it doesn't work that way. Grace and works are polar opposites: one cannot coexist with the other.

This is a difficult hurdle for a lot of people to get past; I used to be one of them.
 
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That is not true. You said I had deceiving spirits in another thread and the whole time it was someone else who said what you attributed to me.

That, is not helpful nor does it create any sort of healthy discussion. Get a grip!

It seems you may indeed need help whether you ask for it or not.
Your response lacks context. Please explain clearly why I said that. Thanks.
 

TMS

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the law is about making sinners guilty and aware of sin the gospel is thy answer for that place we end up in forgiving our sins calling us to repentance and teaching us righteousness
I agree regardless of which law, non of them can save us.
The moral law points out sin in our hearts and actions. The grace of Jesus covers our sins.

Thinks of the ark (Ex 25) in the most holy place. The law was inside the ark. But just above the law was the mercy set.

We all deserve death and according to the principle, "if you sin you shall die" we all should die.
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
When Jesus died on the cross, did He remove the law? Or did He place his mercy, and forgiveness over the law?

Praise God we are able to be forgiven for breaking the law.

No law = No need for Jesus.

Rom 6: 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
 

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I agree regardless of which law, non of them can save us.
The moral law points out sin in our hearts and actions. The grace of Jesus covers our sins.

Thinks of the ark (Ex 25) in the most holy place. The law was inside the ark. But just above the law was the mercy set.

We all deserve death and according to the principle, "if you sin you shall die" we all should die.
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
When Jesus died on the cross, did He remove the law? Or did He place his mercy, and forgiveness over the law?

Praise God we are able to be forgiven for breaking the law.

No law = No need for Jesus.

Rom 6: 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
yeah here’s the thing

The law and the prophets were until John:

since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s not what Moses said that’s going to judge us it’s what Jesus Christ said to us going to judge us our “ law “ is the gospel that’s what saves us

this is true of all
Mankind

He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48-50‬ ‭

again this is not Moses speaking it’s Jesus speaking
 

TMS

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Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

MANY people often confuse Moses Law with God's Ten Commandment Law, but they are different.
Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament. It regulated the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, meat and drink offerings, etc., all of which foreshadowed the cross. This law was added "till the seed should come," and that seed was Christ (Galatians 3:16, 19). The ritual and ceremony of Moses' law pointed forward to Christ's sacrifice. When He died, this law came to an end, but the Ten Commandments (God's law) "stand fast for ever and ever." Psalm 111:7,8.
 

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MANY people often confuse Moses Law with God's Ten Commandment Law, but they are different.
Not really. The Old Covenant is gone, including the Ten Commandments. "So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone." Deuteronomy 4:13

The Old Covenant is based on performance, on works; including the Ten Commandments. Christ's death on that cross put an end to the Old Covenant—all of it.

This argument you've made is a very common one; but it doesn't hold water. Christ is our master; we follow Him, not the Law. Jesus taught us things that are in the Old Covenant, like loving our neighbor and helping the poor, but we do them out of love for Him, not because it's a "law."
 

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Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

MANY people often confuse Moses Law with God's Ten Commandment Law, but they are different.
Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament. It regulated the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, meat and drink offerings, etc., all of which foreshadowed the cross. This law was added "till the seed should come," and that seed was Christ (Galatians 3:16, 19). The ritual and ceremony of Moses' law pointed forward to Christ's sacrifice. When He died, this law came to an end, but the Ten Commandments (God's law) "stand fast for ever and ever." Psalm 111:7,8.
Moses Law contains the Ten Commandments. And everyone is under it until they come to Christ and receive Rest.

Galatians 3:23-25
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.


2 Corinthians 3:5-9
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.