The Lie of Evolution......

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Plus It is not a new idea to understand that Gen 1 is figurative or poetic. Scholars have had many and varied ideas about the account of creation.
The birds have the air, the fish have the water, and man is from the earth, the dust of the earth, that is the element of man.

See that man is part of all the elements. He breaths the air, drinks the water, eats the plants of earth, and their is fire inside of him. All the elements are passed through him, sustaining him.

Man could not exist without these elements.
 

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This depends on radiometric dating, which is based on untestable hypotheses and is demonstrably unreliable.
Ice cores do not rely on radiometric dating. The layers are distinct patterns of winter, spring, summer, and fall. They are counted by layers.
 

abcdef

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Evolved from what? LOL!
Look out your window. Do you see a tree? Did God create that tree?

How did He create that tree? Did it come into existence from nothing? Or were there thousands of trees before it?

Man was created the same way. Thousands of creatures were in the line of man, before Adam was created. They were not human souls as Adam, but they were his ancestors.
 

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If you have a problem with the fact that SIA confers resistance to malaria, take it up with the medical profession.
Sickle cell anemia doesn't confer resistance to malaria and no professional would recommend it as a way of fighting malaria, it only happens that it is a deadly condition that even the Plasmodium parasite wouldn't survive. Sickle cell (affected blood cells) are not part of immune system so you can not use the words 'confers resistance'. The parasite can not survive in this kind of blood just like it can't survive in a dead body- A dead body doesn't confer resistance to any disease.
 

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Plus It is not a new idea to understand that Gen 1 is figurative or poetic. Scholars have had many and varied ideas about the account of creation.


For 1000's of years the story was taken as literal. But with modern knowledge, it seems that it is not literal.

If you say that the story is literal, investigation shows that it cannot be correct.

But if you understand the symbolism correctly, then it is true.

Being symbolic doesn't make it false, only that the literal interpretation is false.

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In the news today, worlds oldest ice core drilling dates back 2.7 million years.

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If you read Jeremiah 4: 23-27, you will understand that Genesis 1:1 is a time period called the Beginning. And from Genesis 1:1 to 1:2 there is missing data that Jeremiah helps fill the gap. And that is Genesis 1:1 speaks about a finished and completed earth with life on it. The missing data we find in Jeremiah, indicates God destroyed the people and their offspring (generations) who all were in the time period called "The Beginning." Even the earth was destroyed, going from a complete and finished earth to now one under water, void, lifeless, formless, surrounded with complete darkness.

It's this generation(s) of people from the time period "The Beginning," whom science has found evidence of man being on earth hundreds of thousands of years before Adam.
 

rlm68

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Ice cores do not rely on radiometric dating. The layers are distinct patterns of winter, spring, summer, and fall. They are counted by layers.


Precisely!!
 

Zmouth

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You go too far with your trying to make God into a possible liar.

I merely asked the other member if he believed it was possible for God to lie, while you claim to know the attributes of God but are you really telling the truth? I believe you think you know the attributes of God however seeing that it is written that Jesus said, "... with God all things are possible." the who is really trying to make God into a liar?

[See Matt 19:26]

That absolutely ignores the attributes of God as given in the Bible.
Are you referring the passage in Ezekiel 14:9 wherein it is written "And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet,..."

Lying is a sin and therefore an abomination to God.
So any lie is a sin? So if you are claiming that I am trying to make God a liar then would that be a lie if there was no truth in the words you said?

Why do you post like this. Are you a wolf in sheep's clothing?
Have you considered the possibility that it is trouble is in your mindset?
 

Jewel5712

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Evolved from what? LOL!
God created MAN in His image..but (as ive previously stated) i believe duee to environmental changes both man n animimal had to adapt and evolve..were STILL evolving..
 

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Question, what was the first living creature according to evolution?
I know the bible says Man.... So according to your belief what was the first living creature and how did it come about?
 

Jewel5712

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Question, what was the first living creature according to evolution?
I know the bible says Man.... So according to your belief what was the first living creature and how did it come about?
Who are you posting the question to?
 

T_Laurich

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Anyone who believes in evolution. Doesn't matter to me who answers it, as it should be a unified belief.
 

Jewel5712

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Anyone who believes in evolution. Doesn't matter to me who answers it, as it should be a unified belief.
Lol different people ALWAYS different beliefs..but if i remember correctly..didnt God make the birds of the air first..then..fish of the sea..then everything that creeped on the earth n man then woman?
 

T_Laurich

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Yes man was created 2nd to last, woman being last.

I did misspeak there thanks for the correction. But can you answer the question?
 

Jewel5712

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Yes man was created 2nd to last, woman being last.

I did misspeak there thanks for the correction. But can you answer the question?
I dont believe in darwyns therory of evolution but environmental evolution..but scroll up..i answered your question..
 

T_Laurich

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I can't find your answer... So can you restate it? What was the first living creature according to your belief?
 

Jewel5712

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I can't find your answer... So can you restate it? What was the first living creature according to your belief?
"God created MAN in His image..but (as ive previously stated) i believe duee to environmental changes both man n animimal had to adapt and evolve..were STILL evolving.."

FIRST living CREATURE must have been a bird..living BEING is God..
 

T_Laurich

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With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.
 

Jewel5712

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I can't find your answer... So can you restate it? What was the first living creature according to your belief?
Whoops..my bad He made birds n fish etc on the same day..

"And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day."
 

T_Laurich

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With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.