The Lie of Evolution......

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Embankment

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Agreed. Evolution is flawed and science stumbles to fill in gaps. The Origen of complex life is a huge obstacle. These areas are where God holds his mysteries.

However, Science is not a threat to God. Science deals with observable things and God with spiritual thinks. The only conflict is what you make it. Trying to explain evolution with the Bible is flawed. It weakens the word of God by making false pretenses.
That is why I am completely apposed to cults like , Origins in Genesis etc.
 
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UnderGrace

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Embankment said:
Agreed. Evolution is flawed and science stumbles to fill in gaps. The Origen of complex life is a huge obstacle. These areas are where God holds his mysteries.

However, Science is not a threat to God. Science deals with observable things and God with spiritual thinks. The only conflict is what you make it. Trying to explain evolution with the Bible is flawed. It weakens the word of God by making false pretenses.
That is why I am completely apposed to cults like , Origins in Genesis etc.
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God deals in observable things........He created (ex nihlo) from nothing only He can do that.
 
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Going with Evolution goes against what the Bible teaches about creation. God individually created all of the plants and animals. Not a millions of years time. Science backs up the young earth timeline. For example there is carbon 14 in diamonds. The half life of C14 is too short to have lasted this long. The web site s8int.com gives lots of information on the impossibility of millions of years. How about a hammer found in coal. Atheists will have a hissy fit with this site.
 
Jewel5712

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T_Laurich said:
Why can't you answer this question?
With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.
Seriously, it's a simple question, which one...
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Why cant you acknowledge my answer do you TRULY believe theres only ONE form of evolution? REALLY?
 
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Jewel5712

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Embankment said:
Agreed. Evolution is flawed and science stumbles to fill in gaps. The Origen of complex life is a huge obstacle. These areas are where God holds his mysteries.

However, Science is not a threat to God. Science deals with observable things and God with spiritual thinks. The only conflict is what you make it. Trying to explain evolution with the Bible is flawed. It weakens the word of God by making false pretenses.
That is why I am completely apposed to cults like , Origins in Genesis etc.
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And tgats what i originally said..i LOVE when science confirms tge Bible via archiological finds etc!
 
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trofimus said:
So what...?

There are plenty of people who are something. For example Francis Collins, the founder of biologos (theistic evolution), worked on famous human genome project.
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Just trying stick to the facts, sometimes one can actually search them out and find the facts.

Whether they claim Christianity or not is of no consequence to me does not make them any more credible.
 
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trofimus

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UnderGrace said:
Just trying stick to the facts, sometimes one can actually search them out and find the facts.

Whether they claim Christianity or not is of no consequence to me does not make them any more credible.
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I am not sure of what you think you said or what kind of reaction you are expecting.

You said that some Jewish scholar is something and I said that it does not matter, that many people are something, so what.
 
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trofimus said:
I am not sure of what you think you said or what kind of reaction you are expecting.

You said that some Jewish scholar is something and I said that it does not matter, that many people are something, so what.
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You said you did not think he was a Messianic Jew, so I looked him up just adding in the facts. I am not sure that he would accept that label as a Messianic Jew since the bio did not say from what I quickly read.

My point is that it probably does not matter.
 
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UnderGrace said:
Apparently not.......ice are not so accurate.

Carlson says. “That, to us, means the source of precipitation has changed in Greenland across the last deglatiation. And therefore that the strict interpretation of this iconic record as purely temperature of snowfall above this ice sheet is wrong.”

https://www.astrobio.net/climate/ice-cores-may-not-be-accurate-thermometers/
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The article That you refer to is limiting itself to mainly temperatures and climate change.

The ice cores also contain pollen and records of seasonal changes which amount to years.

The article also states that the ice is 1000's of years beyond the 6/7000 year limit of the literal understanding of Gen 1.
 
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UnderGrace said:
You said you did not think he was a Messianic Jew, so I looked him up just adding in the facts. I am not sure that he would accept that label as a Messianic Jew since the bio did not say from what I quickly read.

My point is that it probably does not matter.
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What? I never said anything about his judaism or faith. I do not care if he is messianic Jew or not.

Aaah, now I see it, I made a short quotation of the post and it created the illusion that I am talking about his messianic judaism.
 
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UnderGrace

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trofimus said:
What? I never said anything about his judaism or faith. I do not care if he is messianic Jew or not.

Aaah, now I see it, I made a bad quotation of the post and it created the illusion that I am talking about his messianic judaism. Ok, my bad. I just wanted to say that its irrelevant to me what this man says.
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Never mind, I see it now. Well we have his bio hehehe..:)
 
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Jewel5712 said:
Repeating yourself doesnt prove a point..its just tail chasing which ive done with you now 3 times so SOMEONE isnt LISTENING!
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Contradicting what the bible states doesn't change anything about what it says.
 
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Jewel5712

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Endoscopy said:
Contradicting what the bible states doesn't change anything about what it says.
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You have yet to SPECIFICALLY show me via scripture ANYTHING ive contradicted...i think you just believe that ALL evolution is darwynism...big bang theory..etc..WRONG..
 
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Jewel5712 said:
You have yet to SPECIFICALLY show me via scripture ANYTHING ive contradicted...i think you just believe that ALL evolution is darwynism...big bang theory..etc..WRONG..
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Try the first 3 chapters of Genesis. A list of Creation starting with the heavens and earth going through creating all the plants and animals culminating with creating Adam and Eve.

God created not the idiotic evolution theory. DNA doesn't allow changes to itself. Also there is C14 in diamonds. Also s8int.com lists all kinds of facts that refute millions of years of evolution.
 
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