The Meaning of 666.

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The number 666 of the man at the end of Revelation 13:

Rev 13:18
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
KJV


The "man" that is about is this one:

Rev 12:7-12
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
KJV

Did you know that Satan, the dragon, that old serpent, the devil, has the image appearance of a man? Did you know that God even called Lucifer a man?

Isa 14:12-17
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
KJV



The image of man is from God's Own Image likeness (Gen.1:26-27). He created the angels with that image also, not just us in the flesh (Gen.18 with the two angels sent to Lot; seen with the image of man).

The reason why that 666 is Satan's number, is because that is when he is cast out of Heaven to this earth in the last days.

6th Seal:
Rev 6:12-14
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
KJV

That 6th Seal description includes events on the final day of this world ("day of the Lord") but also... the event of Satan being cast down to this earth for the tribulation time. The "untimely figs" is about the winter fig that grows in winter and falls off in the spring. It's an early fig; a too early fig. It represents the time of Satan and his angels cast down to this earth, prior to the time of our Lord Jesus' coming, and thus before summer harvest (which is the proper time of harvest by Christ). If you be in Christ Jesus, then you want to be as a fig harvested in the summer of His coming, not in the spring of false messiah's coming.

Thus the 6th Seal includes a metaphor to show the time of Satan's coming as the Antichrist.

6th Trumpet:
Rev 9:11-15
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
KJV



That "king" is the "angel of the bottomless pit". so who is that? It's Satan himself. Those names are his, and mean The Destroyer. Greek Apollyon is from the Greek where the word 'perdition' comes from. Satan and his angels only so far, have already been judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire". No flesh man has been judged thus yet today. So that name Apollyon for Satan especially points to that.

That time of loosing of the four angels bound at the river Euphrates symbolizes the spiritual border between Satan and his hosts and God's people, being removed. The Euphrates was the border line between the lands God gave Israel with Israel's enemies on the other side. This event here on the 6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe symbolizes the opening of that border with Satan and his host being cast down to this earth for the tribulation, coming to spiritually attack God's people.

So there's two 6's to make 66. What about the last 6?

6th Vial:
Rev 16:12-14
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
KJV

There it is again, the opening up of that border of the river Euphrates, with Satan's host attacking God's people and the world with the spirits of devils, working miracles. We are shown the "another beast" of Rev.13:11 forward will appear with two horns like a lamb (Jesus), but will speak as a dragon. It's because he will be the "dragon", Satan himself, when this symbolic border of Euphrates is opened up on the 6th Trumpet and 6th Vial.

There you have it. The 666 number of the beast. It's about the timing when the real tribulation events of false worship with the coming pseudo-Christ will come, requiring all to bow in worship to the "image of the beast" Satan will setup in worship of himself on earth, and his doing great signs and wonders, even raining fire down from heaven in the sight of men.

And you actually thought some flesh born man was going to do all that? Think again brethren.
 
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Since Greek does not consider the indefinite article (a/an), I would think that this does not pertain to one particular individual, Satan, rather, it refers to anthropos as a generic term for mankind.

Just as the 'mark', 'name' and the 'number' for God's Righteous follow the number 144K...it seems reasonable that the 'mark', 'name' and 'number' of God's unrighteous would follow the number 666...
 

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The number 666 of the man at the end of Revelation 13:

Rev 13:18
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
KJV


The "man" that is about is this one:

Rev 12:7-12
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
KJV

Did you know that Satan, the dragon, that old serpent, the devil, has the image appearance of a man? Did you know that God even called Lucifer a man?

Isa 14:12-17
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
KJV



The image of man is from God's Own Image likeness (Gen.1:26-27). He created the angels with that image also, not just us in the flesh (Gen.18 with the two angels sent to Lot; seen with the image of man).

The reason why that 666 is Satan's number, is because that is when he is cast out of Heaven to this earth in the last days.

6th Seal:
Rev 6:12-14
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
KJV

That 6th Seal description includes events on the final day of this world ("day of the Lord") but also... the event of Satan being cast down to this earth for the tribulation time. The "untimely figs" is about the winter fig that grows in winter and falls off in the spring. It's an early fig; a too early fig. It represents the time of Satan and his angels cast down to this earth, prior to the time of our Lord Jesus' coming, and thus before summer harvest (which is the proper time of harvest by Christ). If you be in Christ Jesus, then you want to be as a fig harvested in the summer of His coming, not in the spring of false messiah's coming.

Thus the 6th Seal includes a metaphor to show the time of Satan's coming as the Antichrist.

6th Trumpet:
Rev 9:11-15
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
KJV



That "king" is the "angel of the bottomless pit". so who is that? It's Satan himself. Those names are his, and mean The Destroyer. Greek Apollyon is from the Greek where the word 'perdition' comes from. Satan and his angels only so far, have already been judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire". No flesh man has been judged thus yet today. So that name Apollyon for Satan especially points to that.

That time of loosing of the four angels bound at the river Euphrates symbolizes the spiritual border between Satan and his hosts and God's people, being removed. The Euphrates was the border line between the lands God gave Israel with Israel's enemies on the other side. This event here on the 6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe symbolizes the opening of that border with Satan and his host being cast down to this earth for the tribulation, coming to spiritually attack God's people.

So there's two 6's to make 66. What about the last 6?

6th Vial:
Rev 16:12-14
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
KJV

There it is again, the opening up of that border of the river Euphrates, with Satan's host attacking God's people and the world with the spirits of devils, working miracles. We are shown the "another beast" of Rev.13:11 forward will appear with two horns like a lamb (Jesus), but will speak as a dragon. It's because he will be the "dragon", Satan himself, when this symbolic border of Euphrates is opened up on the 6th Trumpet and 6th Vial.

There you have it. The 666 number of the beast. It's about the timing when the real tribulation events of false worship with the coming pseudo-Christ will come, requiring all to bow in worship to the "image of the beast" Satan will setup in worship of himself on earth, and his doing great signs and wonders, even raining fire down from heaven in the sight of men.

And you actually thought some flesh born man was going to do all that? Think again brethren.
redonkuous. Satan was not called Lucifer. This a misconception. The term Lucifer mean "morning star" also appears in Revelation referring to a King, which is Christ. Lucifer in Isaiah 14 is referring also to a king, but an earthly one, follow the context and you see it's the king of Babylon, who is a man. It doesn't make sense for the Isaiah to talk of the judgment of Babylon, then go off subject in a few sentences about Satan, then go back to Judgment of Babylon again.

666 is a man, and John told his 1st century readers that with knowledge and wisdom they could know who this man is. They could figure it out. And with many messianic Jews in all the local churches they could have know who John was talking about. Nero numerically equates to 666 in the Hebrew language. If it was Satan, there would no reason to put his name in code form, since John used the name Satan 7 times in Revelation.
 
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Hode esta Sophia..... Six hundred threescore and six... In basic number English 666

The word (Six hundred threescore and six) In Greek...600-60-6 or Chi Xi Sigma

Chi Xi Sigma in old Greek the phrase (a multi lingual palindrome) a palindrome is a word that read the same Forward or backward

the beast in Greek the teras

The word (count) in Greek.. Psephizo "to decide" when not talking about numbers

the word (number) in Greek... Arithmos when referring to people a multitude.

Chi Xi Sigma is what spelled in Arabic
 

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redonkuous. Satan was not called Lucifer. This a misconception. The term Lucifer mean "morning star" also appears in Revelation referring to a King, which is Christ. Lucifer in Isaiah 14 is referring also to a king, but an earthly one, follow the context and you see it's the king of Babylon, who is a man. It doesn't make sense for the Isaiah to talk of the judgment of Babylon, then go off subject in a few sentences about Satan, then go back to Judgment of Babylon again.

666 is a man, and John told his 1st century readers that with knowledge and wisdom they could know who this man is. They could figure it out. And with many messianic Jews in all the local churches they could have know who John was talking about. Nero numerically equates to 666 in the Hebrew language. If it was Satan, there would no reason to put his name in code form, since John used the name Satan 7 times in Revelation.
Yeah, I know about the origin of that word "Lucifer" the KJV translators used. In their 1st edition KJV Bible they put a side margin note for an alternate reading, "O Day Starre". I don't have a problem with their using the word "Lucifer" instead, because that's exactly what Satan is going to do when he comes, play the last showing of Jesus Christ Superstar. Satan is NOT the true "morning star", Jesus is, we know that from Rev.22. But Satan wants to be, and that's the meaning God intended there in Isaiah 14 about the devil.

Satan is a 'man'. He's just not a flesh-born man. Did you know the meaning of the Archangel Gabriel's name is, "man of God"?

No flesh-born man will ever pull off a deception like Satan is going to do in the tribulation with playing God. Many men have tried to claim to be Christ, but that still never fooled the majority of the world like the Rev.13 Scripture about the "dragon" will do. Believe, or don't believe it, but I suggest you keep this in mind when the devil comes with his angels to this earth per Rev.12:7 forward.
 
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666 is a idea from a wolve in sheeps clothing rather it be in flesh or spirit.
 
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after reading the whole book of revelation as part of reading through the whole bible...i am convinced that the whole idea that we are supposed to 'decode' the number 666 and find its secret meaning is mistaken...

if you read the passage in question and follow its logic...john basically says this...

the mark of the beast will be his name or the number of his name...
if you have wisdom you can attempt to calculate what that number is...to start out your calculation john tells you that it is the number of man...
for everyone else john simply skips over the derivation and gives the answer...the number is 666...t

there is just nothing 'hidden' that needs to be figured out here...
 
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If you turn it upside down it is 9.99

I mention this as years ago, I knew someone who would not buy
anything priced at £9.99 in case it was something to do
with the beast :)
 
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BeyondET

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after reading the whole book of revelation as part of reading through the whole bible...i am convinced that the whole idea that we are supposed to 'decode' the number 666 and find its secret meaning is mistaken...

if you read the passage in question and follow its logic...john basically says this...

the mark of the beast will be his name or the number of his name...
if you have wisdom you can attempt to calculate what that number is...to start out your calculation john tells you that it is the number of man...
for everyone else john simply skips over the derivation and gives the answer...the number is 666...t

there is just nothing 'hidden' that needs to be figured out here...

Rev 13:18 starts with the phrase, "Hode este sophia" or "here is wisdom" It is the colloquial way of saying. "Here is a riddle". And if there ever was a riddle in the history of humanity, this is it. It is the mother of all riddles.
 
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If you turn it upside down it is 9.99

I mention this as years ago, I knew someone who would not buy
anything priced at £9.99 in case it was something to do
with the beast :)
Hehe to funny I better start not buying anything with $9.99 Im scared now of those numbers arrrrg.
 
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The Bible says that the number 666 is the number of a man,which I believe is the number of the man of sin,the beast.

The beast kingdom is a kingdom that is all about people,with no religious or governmental authority above them,based on the occult,nature worship,and witchcraft,in which they do not honor a personal God,but an impersonal God,the God of forces,or the evolutionary process.

Since it is based on the occult,and nature worship,they believe in the power of numbers,and the number of a man is 6,so the man of sin has the number 666 associated with him,for he believes a triple 6 will give him more power.

The man of sin will exalt himself above all that is called God,or worshipped,which means he has the most power by harnessing the power of nature than any other human being,and his agenda is that there is no personal God to help mankind or to benefit them,and technology and people's devices is the answer to solve the world's problems,so the mark of the beast has tyo do with technology.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

G5516

χξς
chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

G4742

στίγμα
stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

Mark

G5480

χάραγμα
charagma
khar'-ag-mah
From the same as G5482; a scratch or etching, that is, stamp (as a badge of servitude), or sculptured figure (statue): - graven, mark.

G5482

χάραξ
charax
khar'-ax
From “charasso” (to sharpen to a point; akin to G1125 through the idea of scratching); a stake, that is, (by implication) a palisade or rampart (millitary mound for circumvallation in a siege): - trench.

The mark of the beast will be used for identification of the person,the one world economic system,and to cut down on crime,which it seems like it would be a microchip under the skin by a hypodermic needle,linked to the satellite system,with all information about them,and a picture of them,that comes up on computer,and if a crime happens in an area they will know who was in that area at that time,and to find lost people and such,and those that do not love God will think it is the only way for there to be peace on earth,and solve their problems,for they believe there is no personal God to help them.

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

At the time the beast,and the false prophet,are thrown in to the lake of fire,Satan is bound and shut up in the bottomless pit,so the beast,and Satan,are separated,and two different beings,so for people who think that the beast will not be a man born in to this world,he will be a man born in to this world,for he is thrown in to the lake of fire,so he is judged for deceiving the world.

When the devils are cast to the earth,at the middle of the 7 years period,the devils will deceive all people who love not God,which is the strong delusion that God will give them for not loving the truth,but having pleasure in unrighteousness,and Satan will deceive the man of sin,who will be working for the first half of the 7 years period,as a great man of peace.
 

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The Bible says that the number 666 is the number of a man,which I believe is the number of the man of sin,the beast.

The beast kingdom is a kingdom that is all about people,with no religious or governmental authority above them,based on the occult,nature worship,and witchcraft,in which they do not honor a personal God,but an impersonal God,the God of forces,or the evolutionary process.

Since it is based on the occult,and nature worship,they believe in the power of numbers,and the number of a man is 6,so the man of sin has the number 666 associated with him,for he believes a triple 6 will give him more power.

The man of sin will exalt himself above all that is called God,or worshipped,which means he has the most power by harnessing the power of nature than any other human being,and his agenda is that there is no personal God to help mankind or to benefit them,and technology and people's devices is the answer to solve the world's problems,so the mark of the beast has tyo do with technology.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

G5516

χξς
chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

G4742

στίγμα
stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

Mark

G5480

χάραγμα
charagma
khar'-ag-mah
From the same as G5482; a scratch or etching, that is, stamp (as a badge of servitude), or sculptured figure (statue): - graven, mark.

G5482

χάραξ
charax
khar'-ax
From “charasso” (to sharpen to a point; akin to G1125 through the idea of scratching); a stake, that is, (by implication) a palisade or rampart (millitary mound for circumvallation in a siege): - trench.

The mark of the beast will be used for identification of the person,the one world economic system,and to cut down on crime,which it seems like it would be a microchip under the skin by a hypodermic needle,linked to the satellite system,with all information about them,and a picture of them,that comes up on computer,and if a crime happens in an area they will know who was in that area at that time,and to find lost people and such,and those that do not love God will think it is the only way for there to be peace on earth,and solve their problems,for they believe there is no personal God to help them.

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

At the time the beast,and the false prophet,are thrown in to the lake of fire,Satan is bound and shut up in the bottomless pit,so the beast,and Satan,are separated,and two different beings,so for people who think that the beast will not be a man born in to this world,he will be a man born in to this world,for he is thrown in to the lake of fire,so he is judged for deceiving the world.

When the devils are cast to the earth,at the middle of the 7 years period,the devils will deceive all people who love not God,which is the strong delusion that God will give them for not loving the truth,but having pleasure in unrighteousness,and Satan will deceive the man of sin,who will be working for the first half of the 7 years period,as a great man of peace.
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666 is a idea from a wolve in sheeps clothing rather it be in flesh or spirit.
And our Lord Jesus gave the idea through His servant John, so what are you saying our Lord Jesus?
 

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after reading the whole book of revelation as part of reading through the whole bible...i am convinced that the whole idea that we are supposed to 'decode' the number 666 and find its secret meaning is mistaken...

if you read the passage in question and follow its logic...john basically says this...

the mark of the beast will be his name or the number of his name...
if you have wisdom you can attempt to calculate what that number is...to start out your calculation john tells you that it is the number of man...
for everyone else john simply skips over the derivation and gives the answer...the number is 666...t

there is just nothing 'hidden' that needs to be figured out here...
Exactly. Nothing hidden about it all, as our Lord Jesus laid it out plainly about the dragon and tribulation time on the 6th seal, 6th trumpet, and 6th vial.
 

DP

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I prefer 777. It has more meaning for me.
For me too, because that's our Lord Jesus' number. He comes on the final 7th seal, 7th trumpet, and 7th vial.
 

DP

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The 666 and Mystic Numerology:

Rev 13:18
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
KJV

Christ's command (through Apostle John) for those who have understanding to "count the number of the beast" is NOT about numerology. What is numerology?

Numerology is a mystic practice, trying to use numbers to apply to coinciding events. It's one of the things astrologers and magi of old used. The ancient mystics used numbers to represent their occult mysteries.

This is why I believe many Jews have a specific tendency towards trying to apply numerology to that Rev.13:18 verse, because of their Gematria system some of their scribes long ago devised for use in their Cabalistic Mysticism practice. Those kind of things are more aligned with pagan mysticism than with getting understanding in God's Word. Were aren't to do those kind of pagan practices. Reading tea leaves in a cup isn't any different than what the primitive pagan tribal peoples did with casting bones to foretell the future. Numerology just does it with numbers.

So what's the Gematria of the Jewish Kabbalah practice? Biblical Gematria from practice of the Jewish Kabbalah assigns numbers to Hebrew words, and combinations of those numbers supposedly reveal the secret meaning of the passage. If you ever heard of the 'Bible Code' idea, that's what it's based on, numerology.

So when you try to literal count the 666 of Rev.13 in trying to find a fit for with some man's name, or some like association, you're actually playing with pagan mystic Numerology, and man's Mysticism like with the Jewish scribe's Kabbalah system. Not a good thing. I guarantee, you'll come up with the wrong answer every time.

Because the command to 'count' in Rev.13 isn't about adding of numbers.

It's about the concept of worn pebbles over a long time, that were used for counting. It's about recognition of something over a long period of time, not literal counting with numbers.

It is indeed... related to the mark which God first put upon Cain in Genesis 4. But that mark was not a literal number, nor an outward mark. It was to serve as Cain's protection; it was about certain traits and advantages Cain would have to ensure his survival in the world. One example of that was, that since God cursed Cain's ability to farm, he had to have other ways to survive. He built the first city, and his children thrived in the crafts and building. In Luke 16:8, our Lord said a curious thing about the children of this world, that in their generation they are wiser than the children of light (those in Christ). That was one of Cain's traits that involved the mark God put upon him, to give him an advantage in the world.

These attributes of Cain's mark would show up later in the world, with the idea of the beast, because that nature included a working like a brute beast to get advantage over the world. That included murder, building of cities, developing crafts with working in all manner of stone, metal, and wood. And it included pagan idolatry. And today we can easily see how that working in the world has continued. There still are those gone the way of Cain who will murder for advantage. And there are those who don't contribute anything useful to natural living but serve as middlemen and controllers to get advantage.

Thus the 666 of Rev.13 is more about recognizing that brute beast nature and it's final working upon this earth at the end than simply trying to apply Hebrew Gematria to some man's name, or to a city, or country, or whatever.

This is why our Lord Jesus used the idea of the 'beast' in Revelation applied to both the "dragon" as a beast, and also his kingdom as a beast kingdom, both given in Rev.13. Our Lord also tied that to previous beast kingdoms back in Dan.7 which also involved a 'beast' king (Rev.13:2). What then is all that about?

What do you think the 'beast' kingdoms of old were actually trying to pattern themselves after?

They were trying to pattern themselves after God and His future eternal Kingdom. With the king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar, he actually proclaimed himself as a god; so did the prince and king of Tyrus of Ezek.28. In Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14, God used those descriptions not only about historical beast kings, but also about Satan himself. How is Satan involved in that?

In the time of old, Satan whom God originally created a good cherub who was perfect in his ways with following God, that covering cherub coveted God's Throne for himself. Satan wanted to be The GOD. That is how Satan originally sinned and rebelled. In Ezekiel 31, God gives us a parable about that time when Satan was originally exalted in Eden and then rebelled against God, and our Heavenly Father uses the flesh historical king of Assyria to draw the profane off track from understanding that Chapter (just as He did in Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14 about Satan). The flesh king of Assyria never was in God's Eden like God describes there with the one He's really pointing to, i.e, Satan.

With the beast kingdoms of old, we see a pattern. They continued expanding with each one covering more and more of the peoples and areas of the earth with each one after the other. This final beast kingdom of our near future time is to cover all peoples and nations upon the earth (Rev.13; Rev.17:15).

In none of the previous beast kingdom examples of history, was there a flesh beast king with supernatural powers to work great signs and wonders upon the earth which Rev.13 shows us with the coming "another beast" (see also Matt.24:23-26 and 2 Thess.2). So why do so many apply that future beast king working as if it were to be a flesh born man? It will be Satan himself coming to work those things on earth, in the sight of men. This final beast king role is reserved only for him and none other. He did it once before, and God is going to allow him to do it again for the end of this world.