The original text was inspired

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Tintin

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Kerry, I don't think you understand how a translation works. Not everything is some conspiracy. Except this KJV-Only rubbish.
 
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Kerry

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I'm not about some conspiracy. Paul said that some preach the gospel for spite yet praised God that the gospel was preached. I the NIV reaches people then praise God. But, it has put a lot of money in evil peoples pockets. Do you realise who much it cost to make a new translation of the bible, If successful, do realise how much money they make off it. The most sold book in the world. 10% of that market share means tens of millions.
 
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There are no errors or mistakes in the King James Bible.

The King James Bible is the preserved and inspired word of God.
The fact that the Apostles used the Septuagint (LXX) which contradicts the Masoretic text in places in the OT that the apostles quoted from the LXX in the NT disproves your first claim. The KJV is inspired and good, but anyone who says the KJV is flawless is simply ignorant.

http:zechariahfourteenfive.wordpress.com proves that Zechariah 14:5 is corrupt in the KJV, as well as every other bible translation that bases its translation of this verse on the Masoretic text. This is basically what they all say:

And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Zechariah 14:5, King James Version​

And this is the inspired version:

The valley between the hills will be filled in, yes, it will be blocked as far as Jasol [Azal], it will be filled in as it was by the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Zechariah 14:5, New Jerusalem Bible​

The inspired originals are gone. We must reconstruct from imperfect copies, as best we can, what they were.
 

zone

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in the millennium, Moses will give us the "directors cut"

and king james will give us the correct revision of the authorized version in english
LOLOLOL....Moses and King James working together in the Millennium to get it all straightened out.
who knew?:)
 
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jimmydiggs

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There are no errors or mistakes in the King James Bible.

The King James Bible is the preserved and inspired word of God.
It was produced in part by a Roman Catholic king who was probably homosexual/bisexual. It also contains many errors, and is an idol.

You cannot verify that the King James is accurate because you are an autograph atheist and do not believe that autographs exist.
 
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jimmydiggs

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LOLOLOL....Moses and King James working together in the Millennium to get it all straightened out.
who knew?:)
You don't remember when Jesus talked with Moses and King James, new illuminati translations put Elijah instead of King James.
 
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there have been claims in this thread that the KJV has errors and mistakes. Could some one show me errors and mistakes? I can't take mans word that the KJV has errors, but show me proof, and i won't say KJV has no errors again.
 
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jimmydiggs

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there have been claims in this thread that the KJV has errors and mistakes. Could some one show me errors and mistakes? I can't take mans word that the KJV has errors, but show me proof, and i won't say KJV has no errors again.
What are you going to compare it to?
 
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Could it be the two just had different ways of telling same story HeRoseFromTheDead? KJV is saying they was was told to flee to, maybe the Greek is saying why they was told to flee to.
 
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CoooCaw

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where do you get off calling me an autograph atheist??

what is an autograph atheist?




It was produced in part by a Roman Catholic king who was probably homosexual/bisexual. It also contains many errors, and is an idol.

You cannot verify that the King James is accurate because you are an autograph atheist and do not believe that autographs exist.
 
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Trax

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I use the KJV, and I know the apostles and Christ did not speak English in the areas concerned in the Bible. You want to look at the hand written mss. Not English. It's good to do word studies and get into the Hebrew and Greek.

I still use my KJV, but I know its not taken from English .
Christ can speak English. If it is spoken, He can speak it. Understand, God declared the end from the
beginning. Before He created, He knew every language that would be spoken. He is the one
who divided the languages up. Man tries to be accurate but loses something in the translating.
God, on the other hand, loses nothing, because His work is inspired, that is, God breathed in.
If the author wrote in Hebrew or Greek, then the author can write it again in English too. God is
the Author. But there are many Bible versions, where God isn't the author. People just don't
comprehend just how power God is. They will agree He is powerful, but they haven't experienced it.
When God authorizes and inspires a Bible, you got a Bible with no errors, and Him willing and able
to explain it. A child of God can't get a better deal. But,....they like this version over here better
and need to do cross referencing with other versions, and look up words and their
original meanings,...etc.... Basically, its God's wisdom by revelation verses God's wisdom by works.
If a person has a God inspired Bible, that's the only one a person needs.
 

ChosenbyHim

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Kerry, I don't think you understand how a translation works. Not everything is some conspiracy. Except this KJV-Only rubbish.

Well when it involves Satan and His attack on the words of God Almighty, you better believe it's a conspiracy. A very real one. Satan's very first attack ever recorded in the Scriptures was his attack on the very words of God (see Genesis 3).

Oh and by the way, the word "conspiracy" is in the Bible. Its a Bible word. And it can be found several times through out the Bible.
 
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Well when it involves Satan and His attack on the words of God Almighty, you better believe it's a conspiracy. A very real one.
So, brother ChosenbyHim, when KJV-onlyist Brandplucked was banned from Christian Chat earlier today, do you really believe it was the work of Satan?

Why do you
think that the Christian Chat moderators are in a conspiracy with Satan? It's very clear to me that they all have the Holy Spirit in them. Why can't you see that?

Is it that the KJV-onlyists are cultists who are the ones attacking the word of God?
:confused:

 
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there have been claims in this thread that the KJV has errors and mistakes. Could some one show me errors and mistakes? I can't take mans word that the KJV has errors, but show me proof, and i won't say KJV has no errors again.
Blessed are they who have not seen and yet believe.
 

ChosenbyHim

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there have been claims in this thread that the KJV has errors and mistakes. Could some one show me errors and mistakes? I can't take mans word that the KJV has errors, but show me proof, and i won't say KJV has no errors again.
Hello there brother Don,

There are no errors or mistranslations in the Authorized King James Bible.

The King James Bible is the pure, preserved, inerrant word of God. God cannot lie (Titus 1:2). Therefore there are no errors in His perfect and infallible word, which is the Authorized King James Bible.
 

ChosenbyHim

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The fact that the Apostles used the Septuagint (LXX) which contradicts the Masoretic text in places in the OT that the apostles quoted from the LXX in the NT disproves your first claim. The KJV is inspired and good, but anyone who says the KJV is flawless is simply ignorant.
Sir, that is incorrect.

The Apostles did NOT use the Septuagint.

Our Lord Jesus Christ and His apostles preached from the preserved OT Hebrew Scriptures. If you want to read a really good and informative article that affirms this, then you can click on the following link given below:


Christ's Use of Targums


And the King James Bible is perfect and inerrant. Sir, I recommend that you ask God to open your eyes and to give you the faith to believe His Book.


http:zechariahfourteenfive.wordpress.com proves that Zechariah 14:5 is corrupt in the KJV, as well as every other bible translation that bases its translation of this verse on the Masoretic text. This is basically what they all say:

And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Zechariah 14:5, King James Version​


And this is the inspired version:

The valley between the hills will be filled in, yes, it will be blocked as far as Jasol [Azal], it will be filled in as it was by the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Zechariah 14:5, New Jerusalem Bible​


The inspired originals are gone. We must reconstruct from imperfect copies, as best we can, what they were.

Sir, Brandplucked already addressed and refuted this objection of yours.

Both the King James Bible and the Hebrew Text say Azal.

So this objection of yours is rather silly.

The King James Bible has it right. The Hebrew Masoretic text has it right.

Therefore you are wrong sir.

And yes I know that the original autographs are gone. But no worries. God has promised to preserve His pure words (Psalm 12:6-7, & Matthew 24:35), and He has kept His wonderful promise. We have His pure and inerrant words. And they are all found in the Authorized King James Holy Bible.
 
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Reformedjason

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If you watch a video on YouTube with dr James white debating a Kjv onlyist that took place in England , you can get many facts. Dr James White knows his stuff. He brings forth many errors in the Kjv. I don't have to post it for you. Check for yourself.
 

ChosenbyHim

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It was produced in part by a Roman Catholic king who was probably homosexual/bisexual. It also contains many errors, and is an idol.

The King James Bible does not contain any errors. And it is not an idol.

It is God's holy word.


Also, the honourable King James I was not a Roman Catholic. And he was not homosexual or bisexual. Don't believe those false rumors and lies that were made against him some 25 years after his death.


I suggest you read this book that defends King James and that refutes all the lies that were made against him by his maligners.




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King James wrote in one of his works (Basilicon Doron) that:



"There are some horrible crimes that ye are bound in conscience never to forgive: such as witchcraft, willful murder, incest, and sodomy.
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In this same work (Basilicon Doron), he also wrote the following:


"But especially eschew to be effeminate in your clothes, in perfuming, preening, or such like.., and make not a fool of yourself in disguising or wearing long your hair or nails, which are but excrements of nature... Guard against corrupt leide and effeminate ones."


"But the principal blessing that you can get of goodcompany will stand in your marrying of a Godly and virtuous wife being flesh of your flesh and bone of your bone.., marriage is the greatest earthly felicity and without the blessing of God you cannot look for a happy marriage."



Furthermore, there is no recorded objective documentation that King James ever practiced or promoted sodomy, the historical record only knows of King James' heterosexuality and condemnation of sodomy.



Now let's see what King James I wrote in his work (Basilicon Doron) regarding Salvation:


"...white garments washen the blood of the lamb (as St. John sayeth)..." And, "all that is necessary for salvation is contained in the scripture."


King James wrote the following concerning the Scriptures and the reading, study and right division of it:



"Diligently read his word, & earnestly...pray for the right understanding thereof. Search the scriptures saith Christ for they will bear testimony of me. The whole Scriptures saith Paul are profitable to teach, to improve, to correct, and to instruct in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfect unto all good works."


And regarding the Church of Rome and the Papacy:



" I am no papist and said before... ". "Now faith ...is the free gift of God (as Paul sayeth). It must be nourished by prayer, which is no thing but a friendly talking to God. Use oft to pray when ye are quiet, especially in your bed..."


Again, King James I was not a roman catholic. And the very quote cited above confirms and verifies this. King James I was a saved man. And he loved the Lord and the word of God.

And shame on you Jimmy for slandering such a wonderful King and Monarch, who had strong convictions about his faith and the word of God, and who had great moral character.




You cannot verify that the King James is accurate because you are an autograph atheist and do not believe that autographs exist.

Jimmy, you cannot verify that the King James Bible has errors in it because it DOES NOT. The King James Bible is the preserved, perfect, pure and inerrant word of God.


And the original autographs do not exist. And YOU know they don't exist. So stop your lying and your foolish mockings because you are only making yourself look bad.