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There is no 70th-week-of-Daniel 7-year tribulation period. Daniel 9:24-27 has been 100% completely fulfilled.
The 'Wrath of God' is not part of the 'Great Tribulation' period. As an 'event', is occurs afterward. The rapture occurs between the two.
There is only one more coming of Christ. There will not be a third...
The 'Wrath of God' is not part of the 'Great Tribulation' period. As an 'event', is occurs afterward. The rapture occurs between the two.
There is only one more coming of Christ. There will not be a third...
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I've heard of it Cross, but where does scripture indicate about the separation of believers in the end? Actually the early church fathers believed in post-trib premellinialism, known as historic premill. I guess it's proper to leave this discussion since this topic won't accomplish much, unless it brings people to the truth.
I know the history.
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
(Jud 1:14)
To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
(1Th 3:13)
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
(Jud 1:14)
To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
(1Th 3:13)
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Just want to point out that while the classical dispensational view understands the Olivet discourses as pertaining only to the Jewish nation and with no reference to the Rapture, there are several new ideas that notices the possibility that the Rapture is also referenced. It does seem to be somewhat confusing that Jesus would reference "when you see the signs you know the Lord's return is near" with "no man knows the day nor hour, not even me". Yet this perfectly fits in with pre-trib theory, there is a Rapture that is signless, no warning given or needed, but clearly the 2nd coming has many signs, many precursors, and notice given. Jesus will come for his people without warning (rapture) but He will also come at the climax of history, with many signs leading to this event.
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I use the King James Version of the Holy Bible.
The church does not have to "endure" to the end before Christ's return. In the context of the Great Tribulation, Those who "endure to the end" are those who will survive physically throughout the entire 7 year Tribulation period.
The King James Version of the Holy Bible is the Word of God.
How about you? What "Bible" are you reading since you never quoted any Scripture. Why do you tell me to "seek god" and use a little "g"? Which "god" are you asking me to seek?
I check EVERY teaching and everything I read, including this post, with the Word of God (Acts 17:11). So don't be pointing any hypocritical fingers at me. Looks like you need to do more Bible study yourself.
The church does not have to "endure" to the end before Christ's return. In the context of the Great Tribulation, Those who "endure to the end" are those who will survive physically throughout the entire 7 year Tribulation period.
The King James Version of the Holy Bible is the Word of God.
How about you? What "Bible" are you reading since you never quoted any Scripture. Why do you tell me to "seek god" and use a little "g"? Which "god" are you asking me to seek?
I check EVERY teaching and everything I read, including this post, with the Word of God (Acts 17:11). So don't be pointing any hypocritical fingers at me. Looks like you need to do more Bible study yourself.
The OP posted this in no. 13
*[[Heb 9:28]] ISV* so the Messiah was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people. And he will appear a second time, not to deal with sin, but to bring salvation to those who eagerly wait for him.
First coming- sacrificed to take away sins of many.
Second coming- he will appear to those who eagerly wait for him to bring salvation.
Is there a third?
*[[Heb 9:28]] ISV* so the Messiah was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people. And he will appear a second time, not to deal with sin, but to bring salvation to those who eagerly wait for him.
First coming- sacrificed to take away sins of many.
Second coming- he will appear to those who eagerly wait for him to bring salvation.
Is there a third?
Im not sure where you think I stand on this topic. So I'll just tell you then we can have a better discussion.
I believe there may or may not be a rapture. I'm not convinced either way, there are good arguments for and against there being one.
If there isn't a rapture, we will go through the tribulation, then after that Christ will return and we will rule with him for 1,000 years on earth.
If there is a rapture, then we will be rescued out of it and then come back with Him 7 years later or 3.5 years later depending if there's a pre-trib or mid-trib.
Either way, we will go through the Millennium with Him. None of the elect will be excluded.
I believe there may or may not be a rapture. I'm not convinced either way, there are good arguments for and against there being one.
If there isn't a rapture, we will go through the tribulation, then after that Christ will return and we will rule with him for 1,000 years on earth.
If there is a rapture, then we will be rescued out of it and then come back with Him 7 years later or 3.5 years later depending if there's a pre-trib or mid-trib.
Either way, we will go through the Millennium with Him. None of the elect will be excluded.