The Rapture
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All we need to know is Jesus is coming back and in the world we have tribulation; Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. We know the antichrist will be revealed before Jesus comes back 2 Thes. 2 and it will be after the tribulation Mat. 24. IMHO, there is no point in debating against the Scripture. it doesn't even need to be interpreted, because it is self explanatory. Debating this does no good at all. We should except the Scripture; Let every man be a liar but God's world is true.
Simple. 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 and the sheep and goats thing in Matt25.
And the people coming out of their graves when Jesus returns in premillennialism will not be all people, but only the saved people. The unsaved will be resurrected after the 1000 years have passed.
This is my main issue with premillennialism as much as I like to see it there, but unfortunately it is only there in Rev20.
And the people coming out of their graves when Jesus returns in premillennialism will not be all people, but only the saved people. The unsaved will be resurrected after the 1000 years have passed.
This is my main issue with premillennialism as much as I like to see it there, but unfortunately it is only there in Rev20.
WOW, five pages on one Sunday Morning. How many skipped Church to post this morning?
Hebrews 10:23-25 (HCSB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Let us hold on to the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] And let us be concerned about one another in order to promote love and good works,
[SUP]25 [/SUP] not staying away from our ⌊worship⌋ meetings, as some habitually do, but encouraging each other, and all the more as you see the day drawing near.
Hebrews 10:23-25 (HCSB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Let us hold on to the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] And let us be concerned about one another in order to promote love and good works,
[SUP]25 [/SUP] not staying away from our ⌊worship⌋ meetings, as some habitually do, but encouraging each other, and all the more as you see the day drawing near.
The content leading up to the statement.
10 virgins - 10 represents the law or old covenant. The 10 virgins were people under the at the first coming of Christ. Some had oil in there lamps and the SAW Jesus as the Messiah.
The unprofitable servant was earthly Jerusalem or the Jews or the law, I'm not exactly who he is, but he has to do with the law. The man taking a far journey to a FAR COUNTRY is God the Father. We can know WHEN that FAR COUNTRY journey was from Matthew 21:33. In that story the man had gone on the far journey and he sent his son while he was away and they killed his son.... we know the journey to the far country was way earlier than the time of the crucifixtion of Christ. So all the evidence points to the sheep and goat judgement at the first coming or better yet, his 2nd coming when he returned from hell.
Matthew 25:14 KJV
For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
Matthew 21:33 KJV
Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
10 virgins - 10 represents the law or old covenant. The 10 virgins were people under the at the first coming of Christ. Some had oil in there lamps and the SAW Jesus as the Messiah.
The unprofitable servant was earthly Jerusalem or the Jews or the law, I'm not exactly who he is, but he has to do with the law. The man taking a far journey to a FAR COUNTRY is God the Father. We can know WHEN that FAR COUNTRY journey was from Matthew 21:33. In that story the man had gone on the far journey and he sent his son while he was away and they killed his son.... we know the journey to the far country was way earlier than the time of the crucifixtion of Christ. So all the evidence points to the sheep and goat judgement at the first coming or better yet, his 2nd coming when he returned from hell.
Matthew 25:14 KJV
For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
Matthew 21:33 KJV
Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
John 18:36 KJV
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
He's ALWAYS been king of his world... he brought his world (kingdom) to us. But what your point in this, are you saying Jesus isn't the first white horse rider?
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
He's ALWAYS been king of his world... he brought his world (kingdom) to us. But what your point in this, are you saying Jesus isn't the first white horse rider?
Daniel 12:1-2 KJV
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
[2] And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
That resurrection and judgement happened when Chirst rose from the dead.... returned, 2nd coming.
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
[2] And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
That resurrection and judgement happened when Chirst rose from the dead.... returned, 2nd coming.
Second coming has taken on a completely different meaning than just coming again the second time. Second coming in religious circles means the end, the rapture etc. Where does the bible ever mention "The Second Coming". It's always been assumed that the rider of the first white horse is Christ, it's always been assumed that the kingdom of heaven was in heaven where the Father is, people have always assumed Jesus returns once.... completely ignoring the fact that Jesus left earth when he died and returned when he resurrected. All verses that talk about Jesus coming back to the earth are all lumped into one religious phrase - "The Second Coming".
But yes I think he's coming again in the future to wind up creation after the true temple of God is completed.
But yes I think he's coming again in the future to wind up creation after the true temple of God is completed.
It could be the second coming for sure, but it also could the appearance he makes to his people now.
On the road to Emmaus the 2 disciples walked with Jesus and talked with him but didn't recognize him until their eyes were opened. When did he appear, when he came to them at the first or when he opened their eyes.... I don't know. And don't get me wrong, I do expect Jesus to return again.
On the road to Emmaus the 2 disciples walked with Jesus and talked with him but didn't recognize him until their eyes were opened. When did he appear, when he came to them at the first or when he opened their eyes.... I don't know. And don't get me wrong, I do expect Jesus to return again.