"The rich man And Lazarus..."
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And other places it says the wicked die. Can’t be in eternal punishment while you’re dead. Do you know about rightly-dividing the word of God? It’s necessary to avoid contradictions and produce sound doctrine.
The eternal punishment for the sin of the unsaved is being put to death.
Romans 6:23
23For the wages of sin isdeath; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Now read Matthew 25:46 again:
46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
The eternal punishment for the sin of the unsaved is being put to death.
Romans 6:23
23For the wages of sin isdeath; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Now read Matthew 25:46 again:
46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
I agree. The punishment is capital punishment. That deals with the body. Why won't you accept that?
Hardly. 2 humans and ALL the fallen angels, which are unnumbered.
What is baffling is that immediately AFTER the account of what happens to the devil, which would include all his fellow fallen angels, the GWT is next and ALL those at the judgment will be likewise cast into the LOF.
And you claim it is assumption to think all of them will get the SAME FATE as the 2 humans plus all the fallen angels, when the reality is that it is pure presumption to conclude that NONE of them will get the same fate as the 2 humans and all the fallen angels.
The flow of the chapter easily concludes that all human beings will get the same fate.
And your deficient understanding of "death" has been easily answered.
God created human beings for companionship. That in itself would prove that He would create souls that will last forever
btw, there are NO verses that show that God gives immortality to souls. Yet we know that believers will live forever. Why? Because God will resurrect and glorify their BODIES. Nothing about their souls.
You are simply on the wrong track. There is something in your background that prevents you from facing the fact that unbelievers will be in the LOF forever and ever.
Hardly. 2 humans and ALL the fallen angels, which are unnumbered.
What is baffling is that immediately AFTER the account of what happens to the devil, which would include all his fellow fallen angels, the GWT is next and ALL those at the judgment will be likewise cast into the LOF.
And you claim it is assumption to think all of them will get the SAME FATE as the 2 humans plus all the fallen angels, when the reality is that it is pure presumption to conclude that NONE of them will get the same fate as the 2 humans and all the fallen angels.
The flow of the chapter easily concludes that all human beings will get the same fate.
And your deficient understanding of "death" has been easily answered.
God created human beings for companionship. That in itself would prove that He would create souls that will last forever
btw, there are NO verses that show that God gives immortality to souls. Yet we know that believers will live forever. Why? Because God will resurrect and glorify their BODIES. Nothing about their souls.
You are simply on the wrong track. There is something in your background that prevents you from facing the fact that unbelievers will be in the LOF forever and ever.
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You ECT deniers fail to realize that the immortality is about ONLY THE BODY.
1 Cor 15;53 - For the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
Oor physical bodies are what will perish. Thanks to Adam. There is nothing in the Bible about souls needing or getting immortality.
Check out ALL the resurrection passages and see for yourself if there is any mention of souls.
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I don't care. It says "able to", not WILL.
You need to read more slowly.
OK, so you just want to be difficult then.
I don't believe in "possibilities" in regard to the Bible. I believe what the Bible SAYS.
NO bodies in hell. Got it? I'm getting tired of your lame comments that have no resemblance to what I believe or post.
It is SOULS that go to Hades. The bodies stay on earth in graves, usually. Some are blown to very tiny pieces by explosives, or burned up by fire, etc. But NO bodies in Hades. This really isn't that difficult to grasp. What's taking YOU so long?
The resurrection of the unbelievers will be when God removes the unsaved souls from Hades, resurrected their mortal bodies and joins them together and brings them to the GWT.
Real simple. Quit making such ridiculous mistakes.
I don't care. It says "able to", not WILL.
You need to read more slowly.
OK, so you just want to be difficult then.
I don't believe in "possibilities" in regard to the Bible. I believe what the Bible SAYS.
NO bodies in hell. Got it? I'm getting tired of your lame comments that have no resemblance to what I believe or post.
It is SOULS that go to Hades. The bodies stay on earth in graves, usually. Some are blown to very tiny pieces by explosives, or burned up by fire, etc. But NO bodies in Hades. This really isn't that difficult to grasp. What's taking YOU so long?
The resurrection of the unbelievers will be when God removes the unsaved souls from Hades, resurrected their mortal bodies and joins them together and brings them to the GWT.
Real simple. Quit making such ridiculous mistakes.
Why bring up another red herring? No one ever said it is an "idle threat". You are just rrying to demonize. Knock it off already.
It is a real ability. No doubt about it. But you just cannot prove that God WILL cause souls to cease to exist. That's your opinion, fine.
But you have zero evidence that He either HAS done so, or WILL do so.
The word "fear" includes 'awe, respect, etc". We are NOT to shake in our boots. We are to have total awe and respect for Him.
I think you might want to check that fresh bullet hole in your other foot about now. There is everything to be afraid of, knowing that He will, rather than simply make your soul disappear and then experience NOTHING ever again, torment YOU day and night for ever and ever.
Atheists will be mighty disappointed when they realize they are going to be in the LOF day and night for ever and ever.
Your ignorance is unbecoming of you. God IS ABLE TO, but no verse says that God WILL. Face reality!!
To say "that is simply the alternative" is arrogant, as if you have all the answers when you don't even have 1 answer.
There are no bodies in hell, for starters. Only the conscious souls of unbelievers. At their resurrection, they will again be back in their resurrected but still mortal bodies for the GWT judgment. And when they will be cast into the LOF, their mortal resurrected physical bodies will be completely destroyed, and perish. But their conscious soul wil be "tormented day and night for ever and ever."
Matthew 10:28
28Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
See? "able to" does NOT mean "will". I will repeat this as often as necessary to help you understand.
It is a real ability. No doubt about it. But you just cannot prove that God WILL cause souls to cease to exist. That's your opinion, fine.
But you have zero evidence that He either HAS done so, or WILL do so.
The word "fear" includes 'awe, respect, etc". We are NOT to shake in our boots. We are to have total awe and respect for Him.
I think you might want to check that fresh bullet hole in your other foot about now. There is everything to be afraid of, knowing that He will, rather than simply make your soul disappear and then experience NOTHING ever again, torment YOU day and night for ever and ever.
Atheists will be mighty disappointed when they realize they are going to be in the LOF day and night for ever and ever.
Your ignorance is unbecoming of you. God IS ABLE TO, but no verse says that God WILL. Face reality!!
To say "that is simply the alternative" is arrogant, as if you have all the answers when you don't even have 1 answer.
There are no bodies in hell, for starters. Only the conscious souls of unbelievers. At their resurrection, they will again be back in their resurrected but still mortal bodies for the GWT judgment. And when they will be cast into the LOF, their mortal resurrected physical bodies will be completely destroyed, and perish. But their conscious soul wil be "tormented day and night for ever and ever."
Matthew 10:28
28Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
See? "able to" does NOT mean "will". I will repeat this as often as necessary to help you understand.