The rise of violence in America - Endtimes

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What does the bible say about this? Also should Churches hire uniform police officers to protect them from active shooters?
 

Dino246

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The Bible says nothing about violence in America, because it says nothing about America at all.
 

Locutus

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The Bible says nothing about violence in America, because it says nothing about America at all.
And they still haven't forgiven Him for that BigSmile.gif

Canada on the other hand. . . .
 

Deade

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The Bible says nothing about violence in America, because it says nothing about America at all.
Sure it does.
Amos 6:1 "Woe to them that are at ease in Zion, and trust in the mountain of Samaria, which are named chief of the nations, to whom the house of Israel came!"


According to Genesis 48 physical Israel (the name) belongs to the sons of Joseph. Samaria was the capital of Ephraim. Gen. 48:14-20 "And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn. And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day, The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth. And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head. And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head. And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations. And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh."

Now look at the prophecy concerning them in the last days:
Gen. 49:22-26, 28
"Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall: The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him: But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel) Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren. All these are the twelve tribes of Israel: and this is it that their father spake unto them, and blessed them; every one according to his blessing he blessed them." :)
 

KALYNA18

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The Bible says nothing about violence in America, because it says nothing about America at all.
See that's not true. It might not say the Words of a country, or nation, but it does say, " you see that spring has come by the green leaf, yet you don't know the signs of the times that the days are evil. " to be on guard Ephesians 5:15
 
Dec 12, 2013
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What does the bible say about this? Also should Churches hire uniform police officers to protect them from active shooters?
Leader against leader and violence in the land....

Paul said very PERILOUS times would come.........

Going to be a lot of surprised people who don't study the bible one day soon concerning the U.S.
 
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Sure it does.
Amos 6:1 "Woe to them that are at ease in Zion, and trust in the mountain of Samaria, which are named chief of the nations, to whom the house of Israel came!"


According to Genesis 48 physical Israel (the name) belongs to the sons of Joseph. Samaria was the capital of Ephraim. Gen. 48:14-20 "And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn. And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day, The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth. And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head. And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head. And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations. And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh."

Now look at the prophecy concerning them in the last days:
Gen. 49:22-26, 28
"Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall: The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him: But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel) Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren. All these are the twelve tribes of Israel: and this is it that their father spake unto them, and blessed them; every one according to his blessing he blessed them." :)
The DAUGHTER of BABYLON

called the HINDERMOST of the NATIONS, the LADY of the KINGDOMS which MOUNTS her DEFENSES to the UTMOST heavens and MAKES war from the AIR while OVERSHADOWING with winds....

80 characteristics 13 chapters of the bible, 8 books and a 10.5 billion to 1 which nation it is when ALL are applied...but hey.....let us all walk in darkness and blind to the truth with our heads in the proverbial sand.....
 

Dino246

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There is a big difference between God prophesying about American specifically, and some passages of Scripture describing situations that may be likened to the current situation in America. The latter is a result of human (sin) nature and the progress of God's timetable. It is not proof that God wrote about America in Scripture.
 

Quantrill

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What does the bible say about this? Also should Churches hire uniform police officers to protect them from active shooters?
No. You just make sure you know who in the congregation are carrying firearms and develop a plan in case something like that occurs. You seat those who are carrying in strategic places in the Church. At the first sound of gunfire everyone knows to hit the floor except those who are carrying, giving them a free range of fire.

And, as the service begins, you lock the doors.

Quantrill
 
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LPT

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What does the bible say about this? Also should Churches hire uniform police officers to protect them from active shooters?
The only rise is the medi coverage, historically the violent crime rates is decreasing.

Crime in the United States has been recorded since colonization. Crime rates have varied over time, with a sharp rise after 1963, reaching a broad peak between the 1970s and early 1990s. Since then, crime has declined significantly in the United States, and current crime rates are approximately the same as those of the 1960s.

Statistics on specific crimes are indexed in the annual Uniform Crime Reports by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and by annual National Crime Victimization Surveys by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. In addition to the primary Uniform Crime Report known as Crime in the United States, the FBI publishes annual reports on the status of law enforcement in the United States. The report's definitions of specific crimes are considered standard by many American law enforcement agencies. According to the FBI, index crime in the United States includes violent crime and property crime. Violent crime consists of four criminal offenses: murder and non-negligent manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault; property crime consists of burglary, larceny, motor vehicle theft, and arson.

the long term, violent crime in the United States has been in decline since colonial times. The homicide rate has been estimated to be over 30 per 100,000 people in 1700, dropping to under 20 by 1800, and to under 10 by 1900.

To much medi can have a negitive effect in thinking crime is on the rise, I think the medi plays into people's obsession with news coverage.
 
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Pisteuo

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What does the bible say about this? Also should Churches hire uniform police officers to protect them from active shooters?
II Tim. 4:3-4 would be a better barometer of end times .
 

Locutus

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I think it's all about the quack medicine people are turning too.

They won't endure sound Doctorin'..
 
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Pisteuo

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I think it's all about the quack medicine people are turning too.

They won't endure sound Doctorin'..
And they resorted to jokes as prophecy was fulfilled .
 
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Historally they say we are living in the most peaceful times the world has known.

1 Thessalonians 5

1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
 
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No. You just make sure you know who in the congregation are carrying firearms and develop a plan in case something like that occurs. You seat those who are carrying in strategic places in the Church. At the first sound of gunfire everyone knows to hit the floor except those who are carrying, giving them a free range of fire.

And, as the service begins, you lock the doors.

Quantrill
:)I agree with you but I think somebody might ask,Isn’t that what a terroist wants,Christians who are not suppose to fear death to be so focused on themselves and worldly things that they show others watching that they trust GOD but not when It comes to somethings?
 

Laish

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I think it's all about the quack medicine people are turning too.

They won't endure sound Doctorin'..
It’s a funny joke . Still there is some truth in that .
Blessings
Bill
 

iamsoandso

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And they resorted to jokes as prophecy was fulfilled .

First thing to figure through is "is the Israel that rose up in 1948 of God and came down from Heaven or did man set it up and call it Israel and the man of sin about to rise?"...