The sabbath cults - making an idol of the sabbath.

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JaumeJ

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One thing more I would like to share.

It makes me feel very good with the presence of the Holy Spirit to know, yes, to know how we are to understand the law now being under grace as taught by our Salvation, Jesus Christ. No, I do not feel anything other than the great love of God, and the satisfaction of being comforted about the knowledge that with justice, mercy and faith always in mind, the law is such a gift, given by Jesus Christ to us all, lawfully. You will never hear condemnation from any who believe the teachings of Jesus Christ on the manner in which we should obey Him and His commandments.

Also you should always finding me in as many threads there are on the subject because love dictates people should be made aware of the manner Jesus teaches us all, not just some. Hear the Good Shepherd. God bless all Jesus Christ, and all others too.
 
HeRoseFromTheDead

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KohenMatt said:
ANY commands that God has given at ANY times are good commands, God doesn't set forth commands that might be good at one time and evil at another. Therefore ANY commands God has given are good to follow, and should be followed if someone wants to commune with our Father.

Of course obedience needs to be put in proper relationship to merciful salvation, but they don't have to mutually exclusive, even though there are some on either end of the Law debate.
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How come you're not sacrificing animals, then?
 
HeRoseFromTheDead

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oldthennew said:
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you have truly stooped to an all time LOW in your supposed understanding and fellowship///
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Don't play sanctimonious games with me. He said that everything GOD has ever commanded was good to follow, and should be followed, in order to commune with the father.
 
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beware,
reaping what you sow can bring untoward consequences, especially when you are
sowing discord among the brethren of God,,, for your own agenda...
 
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FreeNChrist

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JaumeJ said:
If we do anything with the intention of making propitiation for our own wrong-doing, sin, we are in error, however we would be total ingrates were we to shirk good works given us by God, Himself, once we are in grace.. As long as we avail ourselves to God in thanksgiving, we will be given good works. It is hardly an effort accepting the gift of the Sabbath from God, and honoring Him in so doing. We do it according to the teaching from the Master, Jesus Christ.........
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No. You do so because you ignore the Master, Jesus Christ's teaching given to us through the Apostle Paul.
 
KohenMatt

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oldthennew said:
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you have truly stooped to an all time LOW in your supposed understanding and fellowship///
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In the words of the Great American Prophetess Taylor Swift,

"Just Shake It Off":cool:
 
HeRoseFromTheDead

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oldthennew said:
beware,
reaping what you sow can bring untoward consequences, especially when you are
sowing discord among the brethren of God,,, for your own agenda...
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Beware lest your phony empty threats come back upon you.
 
posthuman

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KohenMatt said:
In the words of the Great American Prophetess Taylor Swift,

"Just Shake It Off":cool:
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or as Kim Gordon sang -

"shake off your flesh"

((i know, i know; that's probably too obscure of a reference .. ))
 
HeRoseFromTheDead

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prove-all said:
maybe he is doing what the bible tells us, to be [a living] sacrifice to the lord.

Are you doing the same I hope
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Well if we apply that rationale that new covenant realities supersede old covenant laws, faith fulfills the righteousness required by the 4th commandment.

Hey, I like this new covenant!
 
prove-all

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Well if we apply that rationale that new covenant realities supersede old covenant laws, faith fulfills the righteousness required by the 4th commandment.

Hey, I like this new covenant!
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19And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying,
This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is
the [new testament] in my blood, which is shed for you.

Jesus changed the blood and body of the lamp, to wine and bread symbles.
Christ becomes our high priest, no more sacrifaces of blood now.


1 Corinthians 5:7-8 (KJV)
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:


Therefore let us [keep the feast], not with old leaven, neither with the leaven
of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.


this had nothing to do with taking away the Sabbaths, on the contrary,
we are told specific to keep a feast day because of what Christ did.
 
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prove-all said:
19And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying,
This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is
the [new testament] in my blood, which is shed for you.

Jesus changed the blood and body of the lamp, to wine and bread symbles.
Christ becomes our high priest, no more sacrifaces of blood now.


1 Corinthians 5:7-8 (KJV)
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:


Therefore let us [keep the feast], not with old leaven, neither with the leaven
of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.


this had nothing to do with taking away the Sabbaths, on the contrary,
we are told specific to keep a feast day because of what Christ did.
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I'm pretty sure that Paul was admonishing believers to have sincere and truthful hearts rather than clean the house of leaven and eat unleavened bread for 7 days. Once again, faith and love fulfill all old covenant shadows.

Clean out the old leaven in order that you may be a new batch of dough, just as you are unleavened. For Christ our Passover has been sacrificed. So then, let us celebrate the feast, not with the old leaven or with the leaven of wickedness and sinfulness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 1 Corinthians 5:7-8​
 
prove-all

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
I'm pretty sure that Paul was admonishing believers to have sincere and truthful hearts rather than clean the house of leaven and eat unleavened bread for 7 days. Once again, faith and love fulfill all old covenant shadows.
Clean out the old leaven in order that you may be a new batch of dough, just as you are unleavened. For Christ our Passover has been sacrificed. So then, let us celebrate the feast, not with the old leaven or with the leaven of wickedness and sinfulness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 1 Corinthians 5:7-8
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again we have to look to the bible first,and see what it says.
it says to keep [a feast day], the first day of unleavened bread,
then it goes on to say how to keep it, but it says to keep [a] feast.

Acts 20:6 (KJV)
And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread,
and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.

Acts 12:3 (KJV)
And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also.
(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

-if it had been done away with , why did they keep it after Christ died?
now we will look what new testement says about unleavened.

How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread,
that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?

Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread,
but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude
of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his
disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees,
and of the leaven of Herod.

Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of
the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven,
which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal,
till the whole was leavened.

A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

“Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them
[pagan religious customs] … and that thou inquire not after their gods

- the symbals of passover and unleavened changed, not the day of observences.
these days where ordained forever before there was the wedding covenent even.
 
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