The Security Of The Believer

[uncle_mike]

One of the points I was attempting to make is those in Christ are obeying commands "[14] Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you" that ultimately fulfill Verse [4] abide in me, and I in you. Whether if it is agreed upon or not, doing the commands of Jesus is a requirement or we are not His friends. And clearly only the friends doing the commands of Jesus will be in Heaven.

Look how Jesus says this, [14] "Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." "If ye do whatsoever I command you." We are friends based upon if we obey Jesus. How can anyone say no works are involved here? Only if we obey His commands are we friends. This Verse 14 is an "ultimatum." You "do it" You are friends. You "do not do it" You are not friends. That is an ultimatum.

Ultimatum means, a final proposition, condition, or demand.

How are people missing this?

 

[uncle_mike]

lol I'm only your friend if you drink bulls blood 😋

I'll have a glass with You hahahaha

 

[uncle_mike]

Hi. … but believers are already saved and in our Father’s hand. …. yes?

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

- John 10:27-28

Jesus said His friends are under the condition of [14] if ye do whatsoever I command you. Are You doing what He commands You to do?

 

[uncle_mike]

I personally do not think it's possible to earn or keep salvation. But after reading Verse 14 I believe once we're saved we better be obeying His commands and if we do not we are not friends. And I believe only friends of Jesus go to Heaven. So, I do not believe in works salvation, but works to maintain friendship.

 

[Nehemiah6]

But the whole discussion is based upon us, as believers, judging someones salvation on our observance of their fruits/obedience. Which I think is very dangerous for us to do.

Agreed. That is not really our business.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I'll have a glass with You hahahaha

have you ever ate black pudding 🤣

 

[uncle_mike]

have you ever ate black pudding 🤣

No, I have not. Is it good?

 

[uncle_mike]

It looks like deer sausage. It's illegal in the U.S.
Black Pudding: A delicacy from the U.K., this dish contains sheep lungs, making it illegal to import to the U.S.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

No, I have not. Is it good?

it's basically what you have on an English breakfast.

Is called black pudding because it turns black when you cook it.

Basically it's dried pigs blood shaped into a small burger and frozen.
You fry it with sausage and egg and bacon on an English breakfast.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

It looks like deer sausage. It's illegal in the U.S.
Black Pudding: A delicacy from the U.K., this dish contains sheep lungs, making it illegal to import to the U.S.

I think your talking about haggis

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Anyway to be a true Brit you have to drink bulls blood a plate of sheeps stomach and some black pudding 😋

 

[uncle_mike]

it's basically what you have on an English breakfast.

Is called black pudding because it turns black when you cook it.

Basically it's dried pigs blood shaped into a small burger and frozen.
You fry it with sausage and egg and bacon on an English breakfast.

It actually is animal blood then. It's basically a sandwich layer? Toast, then sausage, blood pudding, egg, bacon, toast? Actually sounds good. But I do not ever remember eating blood as food before. This would be something new.

 

[uncle_mike]

Anyway to be a true Brit you have to drink bulls blood a plate of sheeps stomach and some black pudding 😋

If I could make those into appetizers before a full plate of fish n chips I am willing to try it.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

It actually is animal blood then. It's basically a sandwich layer? Toast, then sausage, blood pudding, egg, bacon, toast? Actually sounds good. But I do not ever remember eating blood as food before. This would be something new.

all I can say is I'm thankful I'm not British 😋

 

[uncle_mike]

all I can say is I'm thankful I'm not British 😋

You got me. I thought You were British lol

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

If I could make those into appetizers before a full plate of fish n chips I am willing to try it.

lol no thanks have you never wondered why the french call the English pigs 😋.

 

[uncle_mike]

lol no thanks have you never wondered why the french call the English pigs 😋.

My neighbor is French. His last name is DuBois. I am definitely going to ask him about this hahahahaha He really has not much good to say about many types of people. I bet he gets me laughing over Brits being pigs hahahahaha

 

[Kroogz]

I personally do not think it's possible to earn or keep salvation. But after reading Verse 14 I believe once we're saved we better be obeying His commands and if we do not we are not friends. And I believe only friends of Jesus go to Heaven. So, I do not believe in works salvation, but works to maintain friendship.

Hi brother. Look at vs 15. Before He called them friends, He called them servants. Were they unsaved as servants?


When we are saved, we are servants of God. We need instruction. We need to get to know His will for us. We need to grow in His Grace and knowledge. When we Are prepared and know His will, we are then ready for the service He has prepared for us and we are called friends. Many, stay as babies in Christ and never learn how to communicate with Him. His intended relationship with us is communication and support. Sadly, many believers think it is a dictatorship. And many stay there their whole lives.

Hence, the law followers. Probably did come to faith in Christ at some time, but never advanced in His intended relationship for them.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

You got me. I thought You were British lol

kind of I'm Welsh . I pray the dragons will come soon for them.

The good dragons that is well the Griffin's actually 😋

 

[uncle_mike]

kind of I'm Welsh . I pray the dragons will come soon for them.

The good dragons that is well the Griffin's actually 😋

This is great here.