The Sign Of Jonah
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It was not right before sunset on weekly Sabbath, it was right before sunset on High Sabath:
John 19:31 Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehuḏim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.
High Sabbaths or Feast Days can fall on any day of the week.
John 19:31 Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehuḏim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.
High Sabbaths or Feast Days can fall on any day of the week.
what about the 2 Sabbaths
Mark 16:1 says Mary Magdalene and her companions bought spices “when the sabbath was past.” They were planning to prepare these ointments and spices so that they might anoint the body of Jesus.
Yet Luke 23:56 says they prepared these spices and then rested on the weekly Sabbath day. Compare these two texts carefully.
Mark said these women bought the spices after the sabbath was past. Luke said they prepared the spices before the Sabbath arrived.
Young’s literal paraphrase fits the context as to the Sunday Sabbaths,(plural) .
28 And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre, YLT
Other paraphrasers for some reason turned a rest term in to a time sensitive word, week.
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. KJV
Making the words Sabbaths singular was needed.They took away the second rendering of Sabbaths in the word week.
You are working from at least two false assumptions. You are assuming there are two Sabbaths in this narrative and there is no possible way this can be gotten from the any of the gospel accounts. The idea of a second Sabbath is being forced into the narrative in order to justify a Wednesday crucifixion which is in turn fabricated to accommodate the idea that the three days and three nights must be comprised of a complete 72 hours in the tomb. This too, is not true. It simply will not fit the Luke time line. Jesus never said he would be in the tomb for three days and three nights. You are ignoring Jesus' own clarification of terms in Matthew's account.
Mattithyah12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
John 19:14 And it was the Preparation Day of the Passover week, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Yehuḏim, “See your Sovereign!” 15 But they shouted, “Away, away, impale Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I impale your Sovereign?” The chief priests answered, “We have no sovereign except Caesar!”
John 19:31 Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehuḏim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.
Luke 23:53-54 NKJV, "Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a tomb that was hewn out of the rock, where no one had ever lain before. That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near."
The Body of Jesus was fully prepared for burial according to the full custom of the Jews including the application of spices. "Nicodemus, who had first come to Him by night, also came, bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about a hundred pounds weight. So they took the body of Jesus and bound it in linen wrappings with the spices, as is the burial custom of the Jews." John 19:39-40
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jewish people determine when the day starts and ends by the Genesis account and then there was evening and morning.. This is why they went by a new day started in the evening, and yes Jesus also followed Jewish traditions..
Yes scripture does say what makes up a day.. Jesus said it as well,, quote,, isn't there 12 hours in a day and 12 hours in a night.. Yes This is true one complete day is 24 hours, but there is no connection of that As to being a reference on exactly how long those three days and nights were.. Technically by scriptures own words is that the death of Christ happened at the ninth hour and the resurrection happen at some point during the night before dawn of early Morning of the first day of the week. The resurrection happened at some point in the night 1am or 4am no human has ever known that exact hour accept Jesus, God..
But the resurrection didn't happened at the ninth hour of the first day.. Which yes would make up that 72 hour three days n three nights.. Sorry the best you can do is say yes it was three days and three nights but those days didn't add up to 72 hours and that's all I'm saying... It's illogical to come up with such a theory to shrink or stretch the time.. It was three days and three nights but not figured by a hourly watch...
Sorry but if your going to throw out there that scripture says 12 hours and 12 hours, you aught to explain it alittle better than just that... if you didn't mean to say each of those days added up to 72 hours, shouldn't place things that get people sucked into believing that's what you meant..
Yes scripture does say what makes up a day.. Jesus said it as well,, quote,, isn't there 12 hours in a day and 12 hours in a night.. Yes This is true one complete day is 24 hours, but there is no connection of that As to being a reference on exactly how long those three days and nights were.. Technically by scriptures own words is that the death of Christ happened at the ninth hour and the resurrection happen at some point during the night before dawn of early Morning of the first day of the week. The resurrection happened at some point in the night 1am or 4am no human has ever known that exact hour accept Jesus, God..
But the resurrection didn't happened at the ninth hour of the first day.. Which yes would make up that 72 hour three days n three nights.. Sorry the best you can do is say yes it was three days and three nights but those days didn't add up to 72 hours and that's all I'm saying... It's illogical to come up with such a theory to shrink or stretch the time.. It was three days and three nights but not figured by a hourly watch...
Sorry but if your going to throw out there that scripture says 12 hours and 12 hours, you aught to explain it alittle better than just that... if you didn't mean to say each of those days added up to 72 hours, shouldn't place things that get people sucked into believing that's what you meant..
You make a good point here that needs to be stressed. Even if Jesus had meant that he was to be in the tomb for a literal 72 yours, there is still no way this would work because he died at the ninth hour and still had to wait for the amount of time it took for his body to be prepared for burial before he has placed in the grave. He was then raised in the early morning of the first day of the week. For it to have been a full 72 hours even by this reckoning, he would have had to wait until the tenth or the eleventh hour to rise from the tomb to complete the 72 hours.
The Jews reckoned a day as beginning as sunset. Night was divided into "watches".
First watch – sundown to 9PM
Second watch – 9PM to midnight
Third watch – midnight to 3AM
Fourth watch – 3AM to sunrise
Exodus 14:24 And it came to pass, that in the morning watch the LORD looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians
Judges 7:19 So Gideon, and the hundred men that were with him, came unto the outside of the camp in the beginning of the middle watch; and they had but newly set the watch: and they blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers that were in their hands.
Psalm 63:6 When I remember thee upon my bed, and meditate on thee in the night watches.
Psalm 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
Lamentations 2:19 Arise, cry out in the night: in the beginning of the watches pour out thine heart like water before the face of the Lord ...
Days begin with dawn and end with sundown. Length of days vary with the seasons.
First hour – dawn
Third hour – 9AM
Sixth hour – Noon
Ninth hour – 3PM
Matthew 20:3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace.
Mark 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified Him.
Acts 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
Matthew 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness ...
John 4:6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with His journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.
John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
Acts 10:9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour
Acts 3:1 Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour
Acts 10:3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day and angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.
Acts 10:30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing.
First watch – sundown to 9PM
Second watch – 9PM to midnight
Third watch – midnight to 3AM
Fourth watch – 3AM to sunrise
Exodus 14:24 And it came to pass, that in the morning watch the LORD looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians
Judges 7:19 So Gideon, and the hundred men that were with him, came unto the outside of the camp in the beginning of the middle watch; and they had but newly set the watch: and they blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers that were in their hands.
Psalm 63:6 When I remember thee upon my bed, and meditate on thee in the night watches.
Psalm 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
Lamentations 2:19 Arise, cry out in the night: in the beginning of the watches pour out thine heart like water before the face of the Lord ...
Days begin with dawn and end with sundown. Length of days vary with the seasons.
First hour – dawn
Third hour – 9AM
Sixth hour – Noon
Ninth hour – 3PM
Matthew 20:3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace.
Mark 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified Him.
Acts 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
Matthew 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness ...
John 4:6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with His journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.
John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
Acts 10:9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour
Acts 3:1 Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour
Acts 10:3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day and angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.
Acts 10:30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing.
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Yes sir, no doubt and if I may add to that, if I'm not mistaking handling a died body on Passover was a no no, please correct me if I'm wrong.. Im thinking the burial was before 6pm not sure on that..
Yet I do know it was tradition the burying of a body, anybody was to be done within a 24 hour period..
Some info I've found on burial traditions
of a proper Jewish burial is the Tahara, preparing the body by the Chevra Kaddisha for its final rest, until the Resurrection of the Dead in the era of Moshiach. There is no mystery to the Tahara. It is a simple, yet dignified ritual that allows the person to meet his Maker with the utmost respect and dignity.
A proper Tahara includes cleansing, ritually washing, and dressing the deceased's body. Those who perform this Chesed Shel Emet (true act of kindness) recite special prayers, beseeching God to lift the soul into the Heavens and eternal rest.
the observance of this simple, meaningful, and vital mitzva is neither strictly observed, nor readily offered by some Jewish funeral homes unless asked for (and sometimes insisted upon) by the family.
The Tachrichim
Shrouds and Dressing
Unlike in other religions and practices, a Jewish person is not buried in his or her usual clothing. Similarly, jewelry or other adornments are not worn.
As discussed earlier, one's soul and its spiritual rectification is far more important following death than any honor he could possibly get from his association with earthly possessions. Thus, the Jewish funeral emphasizes the spiritual and sublime over the physical and material.
According to Jewish tradition, a deceased's body is dressed in plain white Tachrichim (traditional shrouds). These garments are hand-made from linen or muslin and are considered fitting for someone who is about to stand before God in judgment.
Another reason given is that using simple shrouds ensures that those who cannot afford fancy clothing are not "embarrassed" that they do not have any.
In addition to Tachrichim, a man is also buried in his Tallit (prayer shawl). The Tallit should be given to the Chevra Kaddisha before they prepare the body for burial. In the case that a man did not have his Tallit, the funeral home will usually provide one.
Dressing the deceased in traditional Tachrichim is so important, and the meaning so profound, that Jewish law insists that the funeral be postponed until proper Tachrichim are obtained or made - even though the same Code of Jewish Law normally prohibits any unnecessary delays before burial.
Yet I do know it was tradition the burying of a body, anybody was to be done within a 24 hour period..
Some info I've found on burial traditions
of a proper Jewish burial is the Tahara, preparing the body by the Chevra Kaddisha for its final rest, until the Resurrection of the Dead in the era of Moshiach. There is no mystery to the Tahara. It is a simple, yet dignified ritual that allows the person to meet his Maker with the utmost respect and dignity.
A proper Tahara includes cleansing, ritually washing, and dressing the deceased's body. Those who perform this Chesed Shel Emet (true act of kindness) recite special prayers, beseeching God to lift the soul into the Heavens and eternal rest.
the observance of this simple, meaningful, and vital mitzva is neither strictly observed, nor readily offered by some Jewish funeral homes unless asked for (and sometimes insisted upon) by the family.
The Tachrichim
Shrouds and Dressing
Unlike in other religions and practices, a Jewish person is not buried in his or her usual clothing. Similarly, jewelry or other adornments are not worn.
As discussed earlier, one's soul and its spiritual rectification is far more important following death than any honor he could possibly get from his association with earthly possessions. Thus, the Jewish funeral emphasizes the spiritual and sublime over the physical and material.
According to Jewish tradition, a deceased's body is dressed in plain white Tachrichim (traditional shrouds). These garments are hand-made from linen or muslin and are considered fitting for someone who is about to stand before God in judgment.
Another reason given is that using simple shrouds ensures that those who cannot afford fancy clothing are not "embarrassed" that they do not have any.
In addition to Tachrichim, a man is also buried in his Tallit (prayer shawl). The Tallit should be given to the Chevra Kaddisha before they prepare the body for burial. In the case that a man did not have his Tallit, the funeral home will usually provide one.
Dressing the deceased in traditional Tachrichim is so important, and the meaning so profound, that Jewish law insists that the funeral be postponed until proper Tachrichim are obtained or made - even though the same Code of Jewish Law normally prohibits any unnecessary delays before burial.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I have forgotten where I originally found this info but I am sure it can be found in a number of places on the internet.
Jewish Burial Customs of Jesus' Day [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1. First, the body was to be thoroughly washed.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2. The embalming process – Again, according to John, this was done according to the custom of the Jews. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]a. All of the body members were straitened. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]b. The women would sew the linen cloths together. No individual could be buried in fewer than three separate garments. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]c. The spices were mixed with a gummy substance known as myrrh and placed between the folds of the wrappings. This served as a strong adhesive to secure the garments to the body. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]d. Starting with the feet, they would begin wrapping the body with fine linen cloth with each member of the body wrapped individually.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]e. They would then place the feet together and place the arms at the sides of the body and starting at the feet again, would wrap the entire body as far as the neck in a cocooned fashion. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]f. A separate piece of cloth was then wrapped around the head (see John 11:44 as an example).
This was how Jesus' body was prepared.
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Jewish Burial Customs of Jesus' Day [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1. First, the body was to be thoroughly washed.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2. The embalming process – Again, according to John, this was done according to the custom of the Jews. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]a. All of the body members were straitened. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]b. The women would sew the linen cloths together. No individual could be buried in fewer than three separate garments. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]c. The spices were mixed with a gummy substance known as myrrh and placed between the folds of the wrappings. This served as a strong adhesive to secure the garments to the body. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]d. Starting with the feet, they would begin wrapping the body with fine linen cloth with each member of the body wrapped individually.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]e. They would then place the feet together and place the arms at the sides of the body and starting at the feet again, would wrap the entire body as far as the neck in a cocooned fashion. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]f. A separate piece of cloth was then wrapped around the head (see John 11:44 as an example).
This was how Jesus' body was prepared.
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Good info,, a little off topic but real quick,, in scripture when the disciples set out on the boat across the lake when it was stormy windy and all. It says it was evening time, around dusk I think or close to it.. Then they rowed against the waves and all for like over 6 hours or so only to get about halfway across. Then Jesus came walking on the water at the four watch after 3am.. I don't know why that strikes me as wild how long they rowed against that for many hours it seems to me.. lol....