The Ten Commandments-Were they nailed to the Cross?

[Isdaniel]

Being under grace means we do not deserve salvation no matter what we do. It means all things are lawfull. but not all things are profitable.

Who would want to commit sin, when we KNOW sin causes damage to self and others..

It is more than the ten commands. There are MANY MANY more sins than just these

Take a look at what Paul said in Romans 1:29-31 .....'Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful.'


Look at the things that Paul is linking with unrighteousness. Are these not things which go against the ten commandments, the moral law of God? How could the saying "under grace, not under the law" mean that we no longer need to keep the ten commandments, and yet breaking the ten commandments would be classed as unrighteousness? It just doesn't make sense

 

[eternally-gratefull]

being under grace DOES NOT give us licence to carry on living a sinful life and ignore the law of God. So what does this mean? Well, if being under grace does not give us licence to sin, then it means that we must NOT sin, and therefore KEEP the ten commandments, the divine law of God. .

Do you see that? We are either allowed to carry on sinning under grace, or we are not. And Paul confirms that we are NOT allowed to carry on in sin under grace.

No. This does not make sense.

If we could do what you said, we would cease the need to continue under grace, and would fall under the term of being righteous in and of ourselves. Which is said no where in scripture

Your right, Grace does not give us a license to sin. It gives us a reason to stop sin. Because grace shows us how much we have been forgiven already, and makes us want to serve God. But does not in any way mean we will not fall. WHich is where grace comes in.

 

[letti]

To practice iniquity.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Take a look at what Paul said in Romans 1:29-31 .....'Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful.'


Look at the things that Paul is linking with unrighteousness. Are these not things which go against the ten commandments, the moral law of God? How could the saying "under grace, not under the law" mean that we no longer need to keep the ten commandments, and yet breaking the ten commandments would be classed as unrighteousness? It just doesn't make sense

lol. So your telling me you never covet? You never Envy, or hate your brother? If you claim this, Your better than 99.9 % of all CHristians.

Paul is talking about people who do this for a living, a lifestyle. He is not talking about people who have bessetting sins, which they are struggling to overcome. Or who fall back into a sin.. But have grown mightily in many areas of their lives.

David was a murderer and aduterer.

 

[Isdaniel]

To practice iniquity.

Matthew 7

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

or in other word people that break the commandments of God and teach other to do so

 

[Isdaniel]

lol. So your telling me you never covet? You never Envy, or hate your brother? If you claim this, Your better than 99.9 % of all CHristians.

Paul is talking about people who do this for a living, a lifestyle. He is not talking about people who have bessetting sins, which they are struggling to overcome. Or who fall back into a sin.. But have grown mightily in many areas of their lives.

David was a murderer and aduterer.

are you saying christians fall into this catergory ?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Take a look at what Paul said in Romans 1:29-31 .....'Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful.'


Look at the things that Paul is linking with unrighteousness. Are these not things which go against the ten commandments, the moral law of God? How could the saying "under grace, not under the law" mean that we no longer need to keep the ten commandments, and yet breaking the ten commandments would be classed as unrighteousness? It just doesn't make sense

You're so focused on the law that you can't see the spirit.

 

[Isdaniel]

No. This does not make sense.

If we could do what you said, we would cease the need to continue under grace, and would fall under the term of being righteous in and of ourselves. Which is said no where in scripture

Your right, Grace does not give us a license to sin. It gives us a reason to stop sin. Because grace shows us how much we have been forgiven already, and makes us want to serve God. But does not in any way mean we will not fall. WHich is where grace comes in.

sining and living a sinful life is completely different hmmm Moses sin yet he was righteous was he sinful nope

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

being under grace DOES NOT give us licence to carry on living a sinful life and ignore the law of God. So what does this mean? Well, if being under grace does not give us licence to sin, then it means that we must NOT sin, and therefore KEEP the ten commandments, the divine law of God. .

Do you see that? We are either allowed to carry on sinning under grace, or we are not. And Paul confirms that we are NOT allowed to carry on in sin under grace.

Sin is unbelief and hatred.

 

[Isdaniel]

You're so focused on the law that you can't see the spirit.

i think you should rest a while ok for what is the law of the Spirit ? it is not grace hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Isdaniel]

Sin is unbelief and hatred.

a time to love a time to hate God hates also so do I try again ok

 

[Rockbysea]

Are you saying people who cook on Sunday are sinning ?

Ahhh... so that's the "Tennessee two step."

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

a time to love a time to hate God hates also so do I try again ok

If you hate then GOD is not your father.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

are you saying christians fall into this catergory ?

No. I am showing you a difference between Christians, who still fall into sin, and those who do this for a living

Again, Are you saying your sinless??

 

[Isdaniel]

lol. So your telling me you never covet? You never Envy, or hate your brother? If you claim this, Your better than 99.9 % of all CHristians.

Paul is talking about people who do this for a living, a lifestyle. He is not talking about people who have bessetting sins, which they are struggling to overcome. Or who fall back into a sin.. But have grown mightily in many areas of their lives.

David was a murderer and aduterer.

it seems like you missed the word being filled with unrighteouness

lets visit the chapter and see what God says if david fell into this catergory ok

romans 1

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

sining and living a sinful life is completely different hmmm Moses sin yet he was righteous was he sinful nope

So moses was perfect? we must read different bibles

 

[eternally-gratefull]

it seems like you missed the word being filled with unrighteouness

No I did not miss that word. Only those who are not born again, Sealed by the spirit are FILLED with unrighteousness.

 

[Isdaniel]

No. I am showing you a difference between Christians, who still fall into sin, and those who do this for a living

Again, Are you saying your sinless??

you are not shewing me anything

because the bible says that there is not a righteous man that doeth good and sinneth not which is different from living a sinful life David a holy man that sinned

 

[eternally-gratefull]

you are not shewing me anything

because the bible says that there is not a righteous man that doeth good and sinneth not which is different from living a sinful life David a holy man that sinned

Di

did David break the law? Did Moses?

What was different about David, and those "filled with all unrighteousness"

I do not think you know the difference.

 

[Rockbysea]

If one sins under grace what happens ?

they are in a state of needing repentance... are you going to answer my question or keep asking me questions?