The Tin Foil Thread

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zone

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Oh I know there's stuff going on. Just gunna keep my eyes on Christ and not give myself the heebee jeebees... Watched loose change last night, and my previous zeitgeist mindset was coming forth and realized it wasn't a good thing at all for my walk.

fair enough.
knowing the goings on, particularly when it comes to the OTHER theology promoted today is important: IT'S CONNECTED. its the reason for its existence.
but i guess there's little can be done.

i don't fear man at all.
i like real history, and it matters what we christians believe and teach...it matters for millions who don't yet know Jesus.

the other thing diggs is that if we had faced the truth 10 years ago when it happened we wouldn't have killed so many people who were falsely accused.
 
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How can you believe in demonic deception when you believe that Satan has been bound in the bottomless pit since the cross and ascension of Christ? How can you believe that demons are behind any of these conspiracies when Satan (the devil) is not able to be active in deceiving nations as the god of this world system according to your understanding and doctrine? If the head of the kingdom of darkness is bound and chained, how have all these organized conspiracies taken place that involve demonic deception? Is man responsible without the assistance of Satan's demonic strategies and confederated hosts in blinding the minds of those that do not believe? I know that you have said that Satan is only bound from deceiving the nations so that the gospel can go forth, but you have never given a clear and scriptural understanding of how Satan is not able to deceive the nations or what that really means when He was able to do that before He was bound. Is there an OT illustration of Satan deceiving the nations that differs from what goes on in the nations at present?

You are deceiving believers away from the very influence that has caused so many problems in the church and through out the world. You are telling people that Satan has no power to influence the leadership of the nations of the earth and to blind their minds to keep or hinder the gospel from going into all the world (1Thes 2:18). You are deceiving believers and people from being able to identify the source of slander, malignity and accusations against the brethren. You have never given any doctrine on Satan or demons and their influence upon man and that is fraudulent and a corruption in and of itself. You are leading a conspiracy against believers by keeping them in the dark about the father of all lies, who is a murderer, who is seeking who he may devour and who sifts believers as wheat to keep them from being converted and bearing fruit. You are corrupting believer's minds from the whole counsel of God that includes the doctrine of the kingdom and power of darkness that is in this world system functioning within and as the mystery of iniquity.

Do you think that man's heart that is filled with pride has nothing to do with Satan's greatest sin (Ex 28:15-17? Who was responsible for filling the heart of Ananias and Sapphira to lie against the Holy Spirit in (Acts 5:3)? You are stirring up and steering believers away from the truth with your doctrine and all your conspiracies and allowing deception to enter their hearts as it has done your own. You are getting them occupied with these things instead of Christ and involved with a wisdom and deception that is from below that is earthy, sensual and devilish, while you contend and repudiate the scriptures as to its very source that is presently active in this evil world. Does the following passage have no meaning to you...

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that NOW worketh in the children of disobedience:

2Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not (in all the world), lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


Eph 6:10-18 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand . 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Are you going to do away with the truth of these passages that give us God's literal mind on the matter as you continue to fill us with your trite conspiracies?
Let's add another passage from the apostle Peter and I think that we can say that these two apostles are qualified to give us doctrine from God and we could call this the apostle's doctrine concerning our present adversary the devil and Satan who is in all the world...

1Pt 5:8,9 Be sober, be vigilant ; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about , seeking whom he may devour : 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that areIN THE WORLD.

and let's not forget...

Jm 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

This devil is the same one in (Rev 20:2) that is the accuser of the brethren (Rev 12:9-11)
Zone, you don't like having to deal with what the scriptures speak concerning Satan and the devil, because they don't fit into your doctrine and they screw up the whole counsel of God for you as you purposely understand it with your own slant and preference. The whole counsel of God exposes us and the kind of faith that we believe and have been trusting in and convicts our hearts when we are off and either humility (contrition) or pride takes over and I am not talking about this phony humility but the one that has meekness that makes the believer entreatable or teachable (Ps 25:9).

The Holy Spirit will never lead us or give us the wrong faith to walk in, but we can walk in whatever kind of faith we submit to. When we walk in our chosen faith and submit ourselves to it in word and deed, it will reveal the kind of fruit and righteousness produced from that faith. If we have the right faith then the fruit of God's righteousness will be revealed from faith to faith (Rom 1:17), but if we walk in the wrong faith we will reveal the fruit and righteousness of our own understanding and God will not be in it nor will His righteousness be revealed.

For those that are stiff-necked with their own understanding and lean toward the righteousness of their own faith...

Mt 5:16-20 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy , but to fulfil . 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled . 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
 
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Red take out all the personal junk and all you have is that you think zone should do a
thread on satan. Why not just ask her?

If my memory serves me you are the one to argue the Amils view of Rev. 20 and you got it.
Why the personal problem? start a thread yourself. Your the only one arguing. Your the one
that wants to make an issue about satan to debunk Amil...so start a continual thread on satan.
 
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Red take out all the personal junk and all you have is that you think zone should do a
thread on satan. Why not just ask her?

If my memory serves me you are the one to argue the Amils view of Rev. 20 and you got it.
Why the personal problem? start a thread yourself. Your the only one arguing. Your the one
that wants to make an issue about satan to debunk Amil...so start a continual thread on satan.
Who makes it anymore personal then the likes of you and Zone. You folks love to dish it out on people but you sure hate when it comes back on you because it reveals what is in your heart. You can say whatever you want, wherever you want and to whomsoever you want but as soon as others do you jump right on them with your stiff-necked comments, like you do with me. I am being kind compared to what I really want to say, but there will be another time for that and you will probably open the door for it or I will be gone and the Spirit will make sure it happens personally.
 
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What? whats in my heart? Red biblically judgement goes like this:

1. We ARE to judge what we know.
2. We ARE NOT to judge what we cannot know.

You got it backwards.
 
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You do not have to worry about conspiracy theories,and whether there is a hidden agenda,and people saying you are crazy,because the people in charge,and people who have a big influence,and other organizations with a big influence,are saying it openly,which if you pay attention to all that they are saying you can piece together their plan of what they want,and how they will go about to do it,with America as the key player.

All the big powers of the past starting with Egypt has all had an occult agenda,and that is the hidden agenda to establish an occult world,where man is god himself,with the toppling of all governments and religion,which is not so hidden once you hear what they are saying,you know what they are following and doing.

America is not a Christian nation but an occult nation that allows all religions to be practiced there.They only think it is a Christian nation because there are so many people that claim Christianity in America,but the power of that nation is occult,and always has been,as with all other powers of the world.
 

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Mutant gerbils from Afghanistan are secretly plotting to take over the world. They send me subliminal messages through Dominoes pizza comercials
 
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Walter Veith cranks when it comes to this topic. Total Onslaught series. I think out of the 1 billion conspiracy theories most are people's own delusional paranoid lunacy but there are definately powers behind what we see played out on the world stage. Obviously if there is a spiritual realm with demonic forces and personalities that oppose Gods plan, then we will see their agenda worked out through mankind, especially when man follows his 'own' way which is based in self will and rebellion, leaving mankind open to deception and control from these forces.

Some points:

Just because conspiracy theories are intricate doesnt mean they are accurate or true.

God reveals all that is hidden and will in time, if a conspiracy theory cannot be documented with verifiable data then I think you'd be stupid to hold to it.

i have been interupted again, and must leave! lol I hate getting interupted when im on a thread im interested in!!!!

To be cont...
 
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anyone have a theory what happened to Lifelike?
 
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lifelike?



don't know, work?
 

zone

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Zone, you don't like having to deal with what the scriptures speak concerning Satan and the devil, because they don't fit into your doctrine and they screw up the whole counsel of God for you as you purposely understand it with your own slant and preference. The whole counsel of God exposes us and the kind of faith that we believe and have been trusting in and convicts our hearts when we are off and either humility (contrition) or pride takes over and I am not talking about this phony humility but the one that has meekness that makes the believer entreatable or teachable (Ps 25:9).

The Holy Spirit will never lead us or give us the wrong faith to walk in, but we can walk in whatever kind of faith we submit to. When we walk in our chosen faith and submit ourselves to it in word and deed, it will reveal the kind of fruit and righteousness produced from that faith. If we have the right faith then the fruit of God's righteousness will be revealed from faith to faith (Rom 1:17), but if we walk in the wrong faith we will reveal the fruit and righteousness of our own understanding and God will not be in it nor will His righteousness be revealed.

For those that are stiff-necked with their own understanding and lean toward the righteousness of their own faith...

Mt 5:16-20 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy , but to fulfil . 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled . 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.




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Revelation 20
The Thousand Years
1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pita and a great chain. 2And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, 3and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.

4Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.

The Defeat of Satan
7And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heavenb and consumed them, 10and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Judgment Before the Great White Throne
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. 14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.




2 Thessalonians 2
1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work
 
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zone

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Who makes it anymore personal then the likes of you and Zone. You folks love to dish it out on people but you sure hate when it comes back on you because it reveals what is in your heart. You can say whatever you want, wherever you want and to whomsoever you want but as soon as others do you jump right on them with your stiff-necked comments, like you do with me. I am being kind compared to what I really want to say, but there will be another time for that and you will probably open the door for it or I will be gone and the Spirit will make sure it happens personally.
Matthew 24:24
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
 

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if 57 kangaroos assaulted an elephant with nerf boomerangs, how long would it take a monkey to eat 163 bologna sandwhiches?