The Tin Foil Thread

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searching memory bank.....processing.....not finding......what's he doing now?

It's some theory that he and his father talk about. It's something about the second Vatican council and a plot by freemasons and jews to destroy the Catholic church from within by changing the church's mission and focus and implanting their own popes.

Illuminati stuff too, I think? I don't really recall.

Someone must know something about it. It can't just be Mel Gibson and his dad.

 

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It's some theory that he and his father talk about. It's something about the second Vatican council and a plot by freemasons and jews to destroy the Catholic church from within by changing the church's mission and focus and implanting their own popes.

Illuminati stuff too, I think? I don't really recall.

Someone must know something about it. It can't just be Mel Gibson and his dad.

LOL. oh ya.
well of course the Freemasonry part is true...
the RC has been fighting it from the beginning (and losing).

as for the other, who can say for certain?

Committee of 300 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Black Nobility - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Leo IV the Khazar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pope Pius XII - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



i would ask why this happened: since The Noachide Covenant is FROM THE BABYLONIAN TALMUD

COMMISSION FOR RELIGIOUS RELATIONS WITH THE JEWS
THE DELEGATION OF THE HOLY SEE'S COMMISSION
FOR RELIGIOUS RELATIONS WITH THE JEWS
AND THE CHIEF RABBINATE OF ISRAEL'S DELEGATION
FOR RELATIONS WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
BILATERAL COMMISSION MEETING​

Jerusalem, March 11-13, 2007; Adar 21-23, 5767

1. At the seventh meeting of the above commission, held in Jerusalem, the chairmen Cardinal Jorge Mejia and Chief Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen noted the significance of the number seven within the biblical tradition as indicating fullness and maturity. They expressed the hope that the fullness of the relationship between the Catholic and the Jewish members of this commission will be a source of blessing to both faith communities and the world at large.

Cardinal Mejia also noted the recent passing of Cardinal Johannes Willebrands former president of the Holy See's Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews and a central figure in the historic transformation in Catholic-Jewish relations. May his memory always be for a blessing.

2. The subject of the meeting was the Freedom of Religion and Conscience and its Limits. The human capacity to choose is a manifestation of the Divine Image in which all people are created (cf. Gn 1: 26-27) and is foundational for the Biblical concept of human responsibility and Divine justice (cf. Dt 30: 19).

3. God has created the human person as a social being which by definition places limits on individual human freedom. Moreover freedom of choice is derived from God and therefore is not absolute, but must reflect Divine will and law. Accordingly human beings are called to freely obey the Divine will as manifested in the Creation and in His revealed word.

Jewish tradition emphasizes the Noachide Covenant (cf. Gn 9: 9-12) as containing.the universal moral code which is incumbent on all humanity. This idea is reflected in Christian Scripture in the Book of Acts 15: 28-29.

4. Accordingly the idea of moral relativism is antithetical to this religious world view and poses a serious threat to humanity. Even though the Enlightenment helped bring about a purification from the abuse of religion, secular society still requires religious foundations to sustain lasting moral values. Critical among these is the principal of the sanctity of human life and dignity. Ethical monotheism affirms these as inviolable human rights and therefore can provide inspiration in this regard for society at large.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/relations-jews-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20070313_commissione-bilaterale_en.html

 

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EDIT: addition

i would ask why this happened: since The Noachide Covenant is FROM THE BABYLONIAN TALMUD....carried forward secretly BY FREEMASONRY - that's its only reason for existing (the esoteric "keepers" of kabbalistic talmudic designs)...more on that following.

COMMISSION FOR RELIGIOUS RELATIONS WITH THE JEWS
THE DELEGATION OF THE HOLY SEE'S COMMISSION
FOR RELIGIOUS RELATIONS WITH THE JEWS
AND THE CHIEF RABBINATE OF ISRAEL'S DELEGATION
FOR RELATIONS WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
BILATERAL COMMISSION MEETING​

Jerusalem, March 11-13, 2007; Adar 21-23, 5767

1. At the seventh meeting of the above commission, held in Jerusalem, the chairmen Cardinal Jorge Mejia and Chief Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen noted the significance of the number seven within the biblical tradition as indicating fullness and maturity. They expressed the hope that the fullness of the relationship between the Catholic and the Jewish members of this commission will be a source of blessing to both faith communities and the world at large.

Cardinal Mejia also noted the recent passing of Cardinal Johannes Willebrands former president of the Holy See's Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews and a central figure in the historic transformation in Catholic-Jewish relations. May his memory always be for a blessing.

2. The subject of the meeting was the Freedom of Religion and Conscience and its Limits. The human capacity to choose is a manifestation of the Divine Image in which all people are created (cf. Gn 1: 26-27) and is foundational for the Biblical concept of human responsibility and Divine justice (cf. Dt 30: 19).

3. God has created the human person as a social being which by definition places limits on individual human freedom. Moreover freedom of choice is derived from God and therefore is not absolute, but must reflect Divine will and law. Accordingly human beings are called to freely obey the Divine will as manifested in the Creation and in His revealed word.

Jewish tradition emphasizes the Noachide Covenant (cf. Gn 9: 9-12) as containing.the universal moral code which is incumbent on all humanity. This idea is reflected in Christian Scripture in the Book of Acts 15: 28-29.

4. Accordingly the idea of moral relativism is antithetical to this religious world view and poses a serious threat to humanity. Even though the Enlightenment helped bring about a purification from the abuse of religion, secular society still requires religious foundations to sustain lasting moral values. Critical among these is the principal of the sanctity of human life and dignity. Ethical monotheism affirms these as inviolable human rights and therefore can provide inspiration in this regard for society at large.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/relations-jews-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20070313_commissione-bilaterale_en.html

 

[zone]

Dont miiiind if i do!

*here Noddess...take a reg'lar cushion...that foil is....well...you know*

 

[Abiding]

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end of hoax.
liars.

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[Abiding]

Is it safe in here?

 

[zone]

WHAT IS THE FREEMASONIC AGENDA?

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um.......anybody else suspicious yet?
don't forget who these guys PROUDLY say they are!

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]Freemasons have always been in the forefront of the scientific community; from the founding of the British Royal Society to today’s NASA programme in the United States. [/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans]The following is a short and incomplete list 1 of Brethren who have contributed to the exploration of outer space. [/FONT][/FONT]

Freemasons in Space

DID THESE GUYS LIE AND STAGE THE MOON LANDINGS?

come on folks....is this on the moon?

let's find out.
if we decide they staged the whole thing, we can dismiss everything they attempt to feed us.

it's this easy.

we know who they are, they're proud of it.

this whole think is a sick joke.....with a deadly endgame.

QUESTION:

IS SPACE A VACUUM?

WHAT HAPPENS TO A MAN IN A VACUUM?

 

[zone]

this is LAUGHABLE! many of you have already seen all this, but for those who haven't....grab a bevvy and enjoy the laugh.

i'm a graphic designer, i know how easy this all was for them.

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22. Excellent "moon fotos" without moon photographer - foto compositions "on the moon"

How experienced photographers made perfect and faked "moon fotos" with a camera without automatic device Hasselblad 500 EL - the astronauts were no photographers - and there are flags without shadows (photo compositions)

Hasselblad camera 500 EL with opened seeker without automatic device,
and the astronauts cannot look through the seeker...

by Michael Palomino (2006 / 2010)

The numeration of the fotos

The fotos of the "moon landings" on Earth within the Apollo program have the official code "AS" which stands for "Apollo Saturn" (project "Apollo" with booster rocket "Saturn"). By this "AS-11" means "Apollo Saturn 11".

But first there must be explained other circumstances.

Suspicious secrecy
The original films of the "moon fotos" i Johnson Space Center 22 miles South East from Houston (Wisnewski, p.183) are secret and are not shown to "normal" media people. This seems very suspicious (Wisnewski, p.184).

[By this the many foto compositions would be even known really].

The handling of a camera Hasselblad 500 EL without automatic device in an astronaut suit

The family business "Hasselblad"

Logo of the Swedish company Hasselblad with seat at Gothenburg, producer of foto cameras.

Victor Hasselblad with camera, Gothenburg 1957.

The camera Hasselblad 500 EL

Hasselblad camera 500-EL in black, lateral view

Hasselblad camera 500-EL in silver, lateral view

Hasselblad camera 500 EL with opened seeker

Hasselblad camera fixed on the chest, example training foto with Jim Lovell for Apollo 13, foto no. 70-HC-74.​

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we are to believe the masons took their pictures this way:

WHAT??????????????i mean this gets to be hilarious.

btw: any space is a vacuum people, at any time, please tell me how these men did not implode, broil or freeze to death inside those suits within seconds.

don't worry.

NASA came up with a doozy for that. and swapped "suits" on display at museums over the years to cover their bunk.

 

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NASA'S MOON HOAX
cont.......

The camera Hasselblad 500 EL is a traditional camera of the 1960ies and has to be handled by hand. Between film and lens is a net panel with 25 black crosses, fiver crosses in five rows one below the other, and every cross has to be visible on every "moon foto" (Wisnewski, p.154). [So, with this camera "crossed photos" are produced].

The camera Hasselblad 500 EL is fixed on the chest of the astronaut suit. By this a controlled handling of the camera is impossible:

-- the astronauts cannot look through the seeker because it's not possible to look downwards with the helmet

-- the mirror of the camera is removed so the astronauts cannot see the object in the seeker

-- the cameras are fixed on the chest so the perspective is absolutely restricted for any foto

-- the cameras have no automatic device, all has to be adjusted by hand: illumination, shutter, sharpness, but it's not possible to look into the seeker where is an illumination measuring device installed (Wisnewski, p.153).

The only thing which facilitates the foto work is a wide angle with 60 mm focal distance, but all other factors are absolutely negative that the wide angle cannot solve all problems (Wisnewski, p.165).

Some more factors which speak against a Hasselblad during the "moon landings" on Earth are:

Heat protection: Any heat protection for the camera is missing for temperatures on the moon of plus 100 and minus 100 degrees C. The cameras are only painted in silver for that. Add to this there is missing any radiation protection for the cameras (Wisnewski, p.154).

Education: The astronauts have no photographic education. They have no idea how to handle a manual camera with exposure time, shutter and sharpness. The astronauts would not be able to make perfect fotos with a Hasselblad 500 EL even on Earth (Wisnewski, p.153).

[How shall this have happened "on the moon"? Not possible].

3 cameras: For every "moon landing" are said to be three Hasselblads 500 EL "on the moon", for every astronaut one, though on a "moon trip" every gram is important and any luggage too much was rejected (Wisnewski, p.154).

Weight: The Hasselblad 500 EL with attachments (80 mm lenses, A12-back, lens protection and batteries) has a weight of 2,130 kg.
(3106 photography - classic camera collection)

So why should have been three of these operators "on the moon"?

Factor time: All in all a Hasselblad 500 EL is absolutely unsuitable for fotos under pressure of time because with a Hasselblad 500 EL much consideration and time is needed for a good foto, but a "moon walk" lasts only some hours (Wisnewski, p.155).

Kodak film 200 ASA.

Factor film: The used ectachrone filmstrip of Kodak has 160 ASA and is hardly suitable for unknown illumination situations. 160 ASA have only little tolerance concerning mistakes and are very sensitive for the light circumstances "on the moon", so it seems the danger of an over illumination on the moon without an atmosphere seems over actual (Wisnewski, p.155).

Radioactivity: The radioactive radiation has a smog effect on the Kodak films and decreasing contrasts which can nowhere be found on the "moon fotos" (Wisnewski, p.157).

The foto equipment rather seems to be right for an experienced photographer of the 1960ies and 1970ies on Earth who add to this has got much time which is decisive for the illumination and the experience. By contrast the astronauts have no long experience making fotos (Wisnewski, p.156).

With a Hasselblad 500 EL one has to handle all by hand and along the "experience". So a good photographer mostly makes several fotos from an object to choose then the best one (Wisnewski, p.154), this means the so called variated photography (Wisnewski, p.156). But the alleged films of the astronauts never show such variants but always perfect fotos with an error rate of 0 % (Wisnewski, p.158).

And all this is not possible.

This is no conspiracy theory, stupid Wikipedia, but these are facts.


The perfect fotos "on the moon" are impossible

cont......

 

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NASA's BOGUS MOON JUNK:

debunked STRICTLY by the photographic "evidence", cont......(never mind the ever-disappearing/re-appearing suits-on-display circus...and the fact the man in the suit COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE FIT THROUGH THE ENTRY DOOR on their first hoax...idiots?)...cont....

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The perfect fotos "on the moon" are impossible

Under the circumstances

-- with a camera fixed on the chest
-- in an astronaut suit where it's not possible through the seeker
-- without the mirror in the seeker (Wisnewski, p.157)
-- with "moon astronauts" without long experience in making fotos (Wisnewski, p.153)
-- with radioactive radiation which has a negative influence on the films (Wisnewski, p.157)

perfect, sharp "moon fotos" with partly perfect arranged sceneries are not possible (Wisnewski, p.157).

This is NO conspiracy theory, stupid Wikipedia, but these are facts.

The "moon fotos" are almost all absolutely sharp an illuminated tricky (Wisnewski, p.153). On the first film of Apollo 11 all fotos are said to be perfect, with 0 % error rate (Wisnewski, p.158). All "moon fotos" are perfect at the first time, there is no second or third picture as every photographer would do it with a Hasselblad 500 EL for safety (Wisnewski, p.160). The "moon astronauts" are said having taken the photos all perfectly at the first time [so are indicating the authorities of the Stupid States].

Wisnewski:

"He came, saw and took it."

(orig.: "Er kam, sah und knipste" (Wisnewski, p.159).

"Humans who are not even able to look through the seeker are shooting series of master fotos without one mistake", an "abnormity" which is only possible "on the moon".

(orig.: "Menschen, die nicht einmal durch die Sucher ihrer Kameras blicken können, schiessen lückenlose Serien von Meisterfotos", eine "Anomalie", die nur "auf dem Mond" möglich ist (Wisnewski, S.176).

By this all indications show that the "moon fotos" are made by an experienced photographer in a film studio with sceneries (Wisnewski, p.158).

[wait til you see their stages!]

There has never been reported that photographs would have "flown along". A big part of the fotos are foto compositions which can be seen because of impossibilities because of flags without shadows, moon car without tracks etc.
(Conclusion Palomino)


cont.....

 

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Fotos of Apollo 11

Astronaut Armstrong is said having taken fotos from his friend Aldrin "on the moon" several times. It's strange that Armstrong is never producing a unusable foto (Wisnewski, p.165).

By this Armstrong is the first perfect blind photographer.
(Conclusion Palomino)

Allegedly there are many unintentional fotos, but the intentional fotos are all perfect at the first time (Wisnewski, p.166).


The first foto
Without seeker the landing foot should be precisely in the middle of the foto, and without seeker the inscription "United States" shall have been positioned precisely on the border of the foto, an impossibility (Wisnewski, p.159).

Add to this the inscription "United States" is installed for propaganda purpose and is visible in the back light [which is only possible with an additional light],

[i am a graphic designer who has been on many photo shoots. THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE...zone]

AS-11-40-5850 (Wisnewski, p.158)

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Apollo 11 foto no. AS 11-40-5850: The foot of the Lunar Module is precisely in the middle of the foto, and the inscription "United States" is precisely on the border. Without seeker this arrangement is impossible.


The second foto
Foto of the "moon soil" AS-11-40-5851 (Wisnewski, S.158)

Apollo 11 foto no. AS-11-40-5851: Foto with a "moon soil" with a flat horizon.

The third foto
The third foto is a foto with a "moon panorama" (Wisnewski, p.158), AS 11-40-5852 (Wisnewski, p.227). According to records the "moon panorama" foto is not real, because Apollo 11 is said having landed in a plain with mountains around the plain. But on the fotos cannot be seen any mountain (Wisnewski, S.227).

Apollo 11: foto no. AS-11-40-5852: "Moon panorama" with a flat horizon though Apollo 11 has allegedly landed in a plain with mountains around the plain.

The fourth foto
The foto shows Buzz Aldrin coming out of the Lunar Module in the back light, and despite of the back light he is well visible [which is only possible with an additional spot light].


AS-11-40-5863 (Wisnewski, S.159)
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Apollo 11, foto no. AS11-40-5863: Aldrin coming out of the "Lunar Module" in the back light well visible.


cont.....

 

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The fourth foto
The foto shows Buzz Aldrin coming out of the Lunar Module in the back light, and despite of the back light he is well visible [which is only possible with an additional spot light].


AS-11-40-5863 (Wisnewski, S.159)
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Apollo 11, foto no. AS11-40-5863: Aldrin coming out of the "Lunar Module" in the back light well visible.


cont.....

TIN FOIL?
LET'S TALK ABOUT TIN FOIL.
see it? om gosh.....LOLOLOLOL

 

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Foto from the landing engine without crater

Apollo 11 foto no. AS11-40-5864: Landing engine of the "Lunar Module" without landing crater, an impossibility.

There follows a foto of the landing engine without crater, with the inscription "United States" in the shadow [only possible with additional spot illumination]: AS11-40-5864 (Wisnewski, p.160).

According to the NASA technicians an Wernher von Braun the crater is compulsory,

(In: Wernher von Braun: Erste Fahrt zum Mond; 1961,p.148; Wisnewski, p.161).

because the engine has a push of up to 5 tons (Wisnewski, p.162).

Braun was also predicting a huge cloud of dust. And the commented radio protocol of Armstrong is mentioning the dust like a "transparent shield".

(In: Wernher von Braun: Erste Fahrt zum Mond; 1961; Jones, Eric M.: Apollo Lunar Surface Journal, last modified: 3 April 2005; www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/main.html; Wisnewski, p.161)

Vertical take-off aircrafts with jet propulsion can provoke the dashing of concrete pieces and concrete panels from the ground and this can be very dangerous for the engines and for the cabin.

(In: Hafer, X. / Sachs, G.: Senkrechtstarttechnik; Berlin, Heidelberg, N.Y. 1982; Wisnewski, p.163).

With a gravitation of only 1/6 of the Earth's gravitation a vertical landing with an engine would be obliged to produce an absolutely huge cloud of dust with stones in it, and all this should be visible on the "moon fotos" (Wisnewski, p.163).


But look what's coming now:

Fotos with landing feet without dust on it

Apollo 11, foto no. AS11-40-5918:
Landing foot of the "Lunar Module" without moon dust on the foot, but with much moon dust around the foot.

Foto of the landing foot without dust: AS 11-40-5918.

[But there is much dust (propaganda says: "moon dust") around the foot].

After a landing with a rocket engine this arrangement of the dust is impossible, because after a big cloud of dust the dust also had to fall on the landing foot.

So, because of the contradictions there is the urgent suspicion that the Lunar Module has landed with a crane on the fresh arranged studio soil (Wisnewski, p.162),

[whereas there was forgotten to make preparations for the landing feet with "moon dust"].

Fans of the moon landings and "astronomers" like Philip Plait maintain that the Lunar Module had not landed vertically (Wisnewski, p.162). The Lunar Module "left a little track of dust blown away and landed very quickly."

(orig.: "hinterliess eine schmale Spur von weggeblasenem Staub und landete sehr schnell." (Wisnewski, p.162-163)

But according to the radio transmission protocols of Apollo 11 the engine of the Lunar Module was working until the landing was finished.

(In: Jones, Eric M.: Apollo Lunar Surface Journal, last modified: 3 April 2005; www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/main.html; Wisnewski, S.161)

cont.......


remember this part:

With a gravitation of only 1/6 of the Earth's gravitation

cont....

 

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if anyone plays around with photoshop etc, and have used the BLUR tool, and sharpen features, layers, etc....well....

put it this way.....if i had my old equipment i could outdo these guys and make it believable.
we get our "technology" possibly as much as 50 years (we'll likely never know) behind what they have.

but its too late for them.

caught in their own game.

wait til we get to why how they "transmitted" the landing over a single screen at NASA.
we've all seen the "control room".

also: they tried something years before to see how much we would believe....

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The fotos of Aldrin's footprints with a partly blurred "moon soil" are impossible

The foto of the footprint which is taken from above is impossible. A foto from above with a fixed camera on the chest is not possible: AS 11-40-5877, 78, 79, 80 (Wisnewski, S.164). One of the fotos (AS 11-40-5877) has no depth of focus in the upper half. But the Hasselblad 500 EL had a wide angle "on the moon" with a focal distance of 60 mm, and this makes a perfect depth of focus. By this the foto has to be a manipulation (Wisnewski, p.165).

Even two fotos (AS 11-40-5877 and 78) are without depth of focus. So the fotos seem to be foto compositions.
(Conclusion Palomino)


"Moon footprints" in a "moon soil" without depth of focus and with strange shoes

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Apollo 11, foto no. AS11-40-5877: Impossible footprint in the "moon soil" taken from above without depth of focus, probably a foto composition.

[don't forget this is how they supposedly had to take the pictures...til they changed the story]

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Apollo 11, foto no. AS11-40-5878: Impossible footprint in the "moon soil" taken from above without depth of focus, probably a foto composition.

cont.....

IS SPACE A VACUUM?

 

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Apollo 11, foto no. AS11-40-5879: Moon footprint with an astronaut's boot of the astronaut who takes the foto. This is impossible with a camera which is fixed on the chest.

Apollo 11, foto no. AS11-40-5880: Moon footprint with an astronaut's boot of the astronaut who takes the foto. This is impossible with a camera which is fixed on the chest.

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remember these BOOTS...

i was at one time a ticketed film industry 'continuity' personnel....these are the people who make sure the guy is wearing the same thing he wore the day before, and his hair is parted on the proper side

 

[Dude653]

Global warming is a myth

 

[zone]

Global warming is a myth

yes it is! same guys doing the lying.

 

[zone]

Perfect, impossible scenery fotos from the "moon"

The further fotos are all photographically perfectly arranged, but they seem to be unreal perfect concerning the conditions for the "moon astronauts" who even cannot see through the seeker:


Perfect arranged fotos of Apollo 11
-- Foto with a flag on the left edge and the Lunar Module on the right edge: The section is absolutely perfect, but when you cannot see through the lens so the foto is impossible: AS 11-40-5886.


Add to this the shadow of the flag is missing. It's a foto composition.

Apollo 11, foto no. AS 11-40-5886: Flag without shadow left, Lunar Module with Aldrin right. That's a perfect foto, which is not possible when the camera is fixed on the chest. It's a foto composition

cont.....

what is the ATMOSPHERE on the moon?

 

[Dude653]

You scare everyone with global warming, and everyone freaks out and starts recycling. It's human nature. People want to be part of something, to make a difference. Meanwhile recycling companys are making millions. And did you also know the recycling only adds to the problem, because it takes more energy and recources to recycle that in does to throw it away and make new.

 

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-- Aldrin and landing foot, without seeker impossible: AS 11-40-5902.

Add to this the shadow of Aldrin is wrong.

Apollo 11, foto no. AS11-40-5902: Aldrin left, the shadow is wrong, Lunar Module right. The foto should be arrenged perfectly which is not possible when the camera is fixed on the chest. And with wrong shadows the foto is impossible.

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if i had blundered this badly with lighting i would have been FIRED.

why is the ' sky ' black?

is space a vacuum?