The Trinity.
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the Critical Text, literally comprises of a system of People decided when Jesus said, I and the Father are One, that it should include the Holy Spirit.
So, they're saying Jesus did not know what He was saying, or did not complete a full entire thought.
Yeah, that's WHO i would base the Bible off of....NOT!!
So, they're saying Jesus did not know what He was saying, or did not complete a full entire thought.
Yeah, that's WHO i would base the Bible off of....NOT!!
Psalms 31:5
KJV_Cambridge(i) 5 Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.
God is the God of Truth! Each person of the triune God is True
The Father
John 7:28
KJV_Cambridge(i) 28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.
John 8:26
KJV_Cambridge(i) 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
We all know it Jesus was sent by his Father (John 5:30,John 6:57 etc) and Jesus said to his Father is TRUE
The Son/Jesus Christ is truth
John 14:6
KJV_Cambridge(i) 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
The Holy Spirit is truth
1 John 5:6
KJV_Cambridge(i) 6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
KJV_Cambridge(i) 5 Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.
God is the God of Truth! Each person of the triune God is True
The Father
John 7:28
KJV_Cambridge(i) 28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.
John 8:26
KJV_Cambridge(i) 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
We all know it Jesus was sent by his Father (John 5:30,John 6:57 etc) and Jesus said to his Father is TRUE
The Son/Jesus Christ is truth
John 14:6
KJV_Cambridge(i) 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
The Holy Spirit is truth
1 John 5:6
KJV_Cambridge(i) 6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
Okay then, this is a good sign of a good opinion. The Father is truth, Jesus is truth, the Holy Spirit is truth. Is is because Jesus said truth which i am in in much aggreement, that the Holy Spirit is not truth. Am really not getting your idea. Every variant to the text of the scripture must be prove in its context, including patriachal citation. Btw, what i am proving against basically is your timeline am I am sure yours got late. 😉
Even the vaticanus manuscripts gave us hint of this variant reading of the text.
Anyway, the John 10:30 is clear in the context of the Father and Son relationship and speaks more of Christ Diety. The two being distinct persons.
Even the vaticanus manuscripts gave us hint of this variant reading of the text.
Anyway, the John 10:30 is clear in the context of the Father and Son relationship and speaks more of Christ Diety. The two being distinct persons.
You can attack the Theological Concept known as the Trinity yet replace it with your own Theological Concept to explain the Eternal Godhead is hypocritical of you.
God the Father is God seen in the word of God
Jesus is God seen in the word of God.
The Holy Spirit is God seen in the word of God.
All are GOD yet one. If you don't like the term or word, Trinity, ok, but don't come up with your own explanation for the Divine Nature of God, and that says what we all have been saying but agree with the Concept of the Trinity. That is dishonesty.
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Agreed, but the Jews have known about the Holy Spirit since Genesis 1:2
if the Holy Spirit is an equal Person of Deity with the Father and Son, Jesus, would have mentioned that.
since the Jews, believe in the Holy Spirit.
in Fact, the Jews, never heard God the Father before, only the Holy Spirit.
So, why Jesus used the Father, instead of the Spirit, speaks Volumes.
if the Holy Spirit is an equal Person of Deity with the Father and Son, Jesus, would have mentioned that.
since the Jews, believe in the Holy Spirit.
in Fact, the Jews, never heard God the Father before, only the Holy Spirit.
So, why Jesus used the Father, instead of the Spirit, speaks Volumes.
The entire Bible was written by the HS. We, as men, cannot construct an entire doctrine based on just one single verse from Scripture, written by the HS, unless the rest of the book that the HS wrote (the Bible) supports that concept.
It still stands to reason that it makes no difference if the Johannine Comma (1 Jn. 5:7) was written by the HS or by men, it still must adhere to the rules that all doctrine must adhere to.
All sound doctrine is confirmed by definitive teaching in Scripture and supported by other passages elsewhere in the Bible.
The trinity does not stand up to that.
It still stands to reason that it makes no difference if the Johannine Comma (1 Jn. 5:7) was written by the HS or by men, it still must adhere to the rules that all doctrine must adhere to.
All sound doctrine is confirmed by definitive teaching in Scripture and supported by other passages elsewhere in the Bible.
The trinity does not stand up to that.
All of my theology is not my own, but directly from the Bible.
I'd love it if all Christians could agree and believe the same. They certainly should, we all have the same Bible - basically. It would make life much easier if we all believed the same.
Short of that, I'm happy to correct any and all false teaching as it is very easy to see what aligns with the Scriptures and what does not.
God bless.
I'd love it if all Christians could agree and believe the same. They certainly should, we all have the same Bible - basically. It would make life much easier if we all believed the same.
Short of that, I'm happy to correct any and all false teaching as it is very easy to see what aligns with the Scriptures and what does not.
God bless.
actually, you have only made it so i would RESEARCH and discover where the LIE began at.
Thankfully, there's hundreds of Scholars and Theologians who have arrived at the same conclusion:
Thus, a careful distinction needs to be made between the actual text used by Cyprian and his theological interpretations. As Metzger says, the Old Latin text used by Cyprian shows no evidence of this gloss. On the other side of the ledger, however, Cyprian does show evidence of putting a theological spin on 1 John 5:7. In his De catholicae ecclesiae unitate 6, he says, “The Lord says, ‘I and the Father are one’; and again it is written of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, ‘And these three are one.’” What is evident is that Cyprian’s interpretation of 1 John 5:7 is that the three witnesses refer to the Trinity.
basically, the J. COMMA NEVER existed, but Cyprian took it upon himself to include the Trinity in Jesus Statement of [I and the Father are ONE].
like i said, the J. Comma, is a MYTH that NEVER was Inspired by God to be include into the Holy Canon.
Thankfully, there's hundreds of Scholars and Theologians who have arrived at the same conclusion:
Thus, a careful distinction needs to be made between the actual text used by Cyprian and his theological interpretations. As Metzger says, the Old Latin text used by Cyprian shows no evidence of this gloss. On the other side of the ledger, however, Cyprian does show evidence of putting a theological spin on 1 John 5:7. In his De catholicae ecclesiae unitate 6, he says, “The Lord says, ‘I and the Father are one’; and again it is written of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, ‘And these three are one.’” What is evident is that Cyprian’s interpretation of 1 John 5:7 is that the three witnesses refer to the Trinity.
basically, the J. COMMA NEVER existed, but Cyprian took it upon himself to include the Trinity in Jesus Statement of [I and the Father are ONE].
like i said, the J. Comma, is a MYTH that NEVER was Inspired by God to be include into the Holy Canon.