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bluto

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For those with a Spirit led mind, not an academic led mind:
As one minister put it ‘’ The difference is not in the essence of Christ, but his title’’. Hopefully at least some can appreciate that! If a person believes the Holy Spirit fully resides in Christ, but they still term Christ solely the Son the God, how do they differ from other views here in reality? People believe the Holy Spirit is God himself. Therefore, where the essence of Christ is concerned, they would agree with a person who believed the Holy Spirit fully resided in Christ. The only difference then is the title of Christ isn’t it. Only on the internet would people state it is not enough simply to term Christ the son of God, bearing in mind there is agreement as to his essence. In my view, it shows the errors of head theology, built on the academic mind of man
Oh the "hypocrisy." Why do you keep quoting others if you do not need any teachers?

IN GOD THE SON,
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Oh the "hypocrisy." Why do you keep quoting others if you do not need any teachers?

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Let me put it clearly. I do not need teachers who spend their lives relying on their academic minds to learn. Head theology matters more to them than anything. And, mostly they discuss things that cannot help anyone in their christian walk. You can tell them by what they write and the demands they make. They relied on their academic minds to learn, not the Holy Spirit, hence their extra biblical demands, and theologising to overturn the plainly written word on a subject. For that is what they revel in doing
 

CS1

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If I recall correctly(it was a long time ago) some stated in substance Christ is identical to his Father, but in the economic sense he is subject to him. I was simply quoting the opinions of many others who love to discuss this subject.
Concerning the Holy Spirit annointing, He leads believers into spiritual truth, a most basic scriptural fact that I cannot see should cause contention.
So lets go straight to your point concerning truth and error, hopefully you will straightforwardly answer a very simple question.
If a person believes the Father is the only true God and greater than the Son, can they inherit eternal life with that view?

the answer is no.

Because Jesus said, you can't inherit anything if you do not go through HIM to the Father.

Let me ask you, what can we bring before the Father? Your's and mine righteousness is filthy rags, and nothing unholy can stand before him.

So how is your belief without Christ, Whom God the Father said He is well pleased with, going to allow you to come into HIS Presence and bypass His Only Son?

Wow, what pride, what arrogance, what disrespect to the Son of God, who is Lord of all.

Good luck with that.
 
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the answer is no.

Because Jesus said, you can't inherit anything if you do not go through HIM to the Father.

Let me ask you, what can we bring before the Father? Your's and mine righteousness is filthy rags, and nothing unholy can stand before him.

So how is your belief without Christ, Whom God the Father said He is well pleased with, going to allow you to come into HIS Presence and bypass His Only Son?

Wow, what pride, what arrogance, what disrespect to the Son of God, who is Lord of all.

Good luck with that.
Its OK, I don't expect too much from internet debating websites. Most on them have an overinflated opinion of what they think they know.
 

CS1

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For those with a Spirit led mind, not an academic led mind:
As one minister put it ‘’ The difference is not in the essence of Christ, but his title’’. Hopefully at least some can appreciate that! If a person believes the Holy Spirit fully resides in Christ, but they still term Christ solely the Son the God, how do they differ from other views here in reality? People believe the Holy Spirit is God himself. Therefore, where the essence of Christ is concerned, they would agree with a person who believed the Holy Spirit fully resided in Christ. The only difference then is the title of Christ isn’t it. Only on the internet would people state it is not enough simply to term Christ the son of God, bearing in mind there is agreement as to his essence. In my view, it shows the errors of head theology, built on the academic mind of man

Have you ever heard the term spiritually mind that they are no Earthly good?
 

CS1

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Its OK, I don't expect too much from internet debating websites. Most on them have an overinflated opinion of what they think they know.

Ok, you don't expect much you got your answer now answer my question.

Don't result to insults because you lack the ability to understand. Or answer it.
 
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the answer is no.
B T W

I wrote:

If a person believes the Father is the only true God and greater than the Son, can they inherit eternal life with that view?



You responded



‘’The answer is no’’

So in your view, a person will be condemned on the day of judgement for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth.

I shake my head in bewilderment
 
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Ok, you don't expect much you got your answer now answer my question.

Don't result to insults because you lack the ability to understand. Or answer it.
You believe a person will be condemned on the day of judgement if they stand on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth: John17:3, John14:28, John10:29
 
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Have you ever heard the term spiritually mind that they are no Earthly good?
How can you be spiritually minded as you believe a person will be condemned for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth?
 

CS1

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Let me put it clearly. I do not need teachers who spend their lives relying on their academic minds to learn. Head theology matters more to them than anything. And, mostly they discuss things that cannot help anyone in their christian walk. You can tell them by what they write and the demands they make. They relied on their academic minds to learn, not the Holy Spirit, hence their extra biblical demands, and theologising to overturn the plainly written word on a subject. For that is what they revel in doing
LOL, it's funny. Did you know Jesus, before he started His three-year ministry, went to school to learn the word of God as is the Jewish custom?


Jesus, who is God and knows all, went to school and read from the words of the Prophets and even quoted the word of God when tempted by Satan. I guess you know Better?

Do you know what the Gifts of Christ are to the Church? Please me if you do and where in the word of God they are.
 

Magenta

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... According to Jesus: The Father is the only true God, the father is greater than he,
the Father is greater than all. So, if you don't accept a person can be saved if they
believe that, you believe a person will stand condemned on the day of judgement
if they stand on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth
You believe a person will be condemned on the day of judgement if they stand on
the plain words of Christwhen he walked this earth: John17:3, John14:28, John10:29
In the plain words of Jesus... Jesus states unequivocally, “I and the Father are one.”
 

CS1

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B T W

I wrote:

If a person believes the Father is the only true God and greater than the Son, can they inherit eternal life with that view?



You responded



‘’The answer is no’’

So in your view, a person will be condemned on the day of judgement for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth.

I shake my head in bewilderment
If you come to the Father any other way than through Christ, YOU are not saved. I can't make any planner than that.
 
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LOL, it's funny. Did you know Jesus, before he started His three-year ministry, went to school to learn the word of God as is the Jewish custom?


Jesus, who is God and knows all, went to school and read from the words of the Prophets and even quoted the word of God when tempted by Satan. I guess you know Better?

Do you know what the Gifts of Christ are to the Church? Please me if you do and where in the word of God they are.
I am not going to continue with you, based on your views of condemnation for a person who stands on the plain words of Christ. I'm not your judge, so I will leave it there. Goodbye
 

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You believe a person will be condemned on the day of judgement if they stand on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth: John17:3, John14:28, John10:29

IF Jesus says to you, " I never knew you," You're going to hell.
 

CS1

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How can you be spiritually minded as you believe a person will be condemned for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth?
that is your opinion
 
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Why should I "refrain myself here?"
I respect so much of what you write, so, you are obviously entitled to keep writing, but I will not respond, it just ends up with an endless debate ive been over far too many times. God Bless
 

CS1

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Magenta, I like reading a lot of your posts, please, try and refrain yourself here. God bless
I can see you are very much unlearned. and incapable of answering real questions.
 

Magenta

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I respect so much of what you write, so, you are obviously entitled to keep writing, but I will not respond. God Bless
It is your choice whether or not and to whom you respond. The same goes for me .:)

I am simply pointing out that you reference specific things Jesus said while leaving out many others.

Though I made reference to only one... there are many others.
Not just from Jesus but pretty much every Scripture writer.
All of whom were inspired by the Holy Spirit of God...